LTO leader does not like Thierry Baudet

water willow 19 March 2019

This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/financieel/ artikel/10881728/lto-voorman-moet-niets-have-van-thierry-baudet]LTO-voorman has nothing to do with Thierry Baudet [/url]

we don't like Marc Calon

brink 19 March 2019

FvD is so popular because the LTO and political parties mean little to farmers anymore. The result is missing. The policy is too focused on positive results for the rest of the chain. The farmer and the farmyard should be more central.

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milks 19 March 2019

it is of a populist level equivalent to that of a 12-year-old child.
pity that this man has to present himself in such a way, ill-considered.

A cat in need makes strange jumps, how many farmers are still members of that club?

Narcos 19 March 2019

Bah, this "foreman" tries at the last minute to meet his own political friends. Self-shunted on the plush, still trying to fish away souls from FvD.
Man!!, go and focus on what you should stand for; defend industry interests.
Guess this call will come back like a boomerang, only they don't get that at the LTO banging.

??? !!! 19 March 2019

THANK YOU FOR THE TRIBAL ADVICE

bep 19 March 2019

This is what you get if you do nothing or too little for your members yourself. then no one will listen to you anymore and everything will turn out differently. and I think the establishment no longer know what Democracy means.

Bert 19 March 2019

Afraid that self-enrichment will come to an end??

sober 19 March 2019

Hey LTO does that still exist??

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Skirt 19 March 2019

Without Calon, farmers would be much better off.

Jan4072 19 March 2019

How well informed is Calon about politics? Not really. England did not opt for Brexit because of populism, but because of the old conservative supporters. And I haven't forgotten how he (Calon) blundered with the ear tag catastrophe last year. It can't get that bad or FvD is better for the farmer than Calon.

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smallpox head 19 March 2019

Jan4072 wrote:

How well informed is Calon about politics? Not really. England did not opt for Brexit because of populism, but because of the old conservative supporters. And I haven't forgotten how he (Calon) blundered with the ear tag catastrophe last year. It can't get that bad or FvD is better for the farmer than Calon.

This is the big mistake the old drivers make. It characterizes the arrogance and desire for power.
Trumph has also won by winning his votes in rural areas and not suburban areas.

Calon apparently prefers to join the incumbent (hoping to score some more jobs) than to listen to what is going on among the grassroots.

pieter 19 March 2019

a bargain. Calon is a member of the Labor Party. So it's not surprising that Baudet drives him crazy.

Harry K 19 March 2019

According to Calon, it was also plausible that farmers committed massive fraud. No, Calon only speaks for his own plush, never done otherwise (just google Blue City Groningen and Calon..)
Once the EU was a boon to farmers, now that institution is being abused against farmers. Not to mention the favoritism and the extreme self-enrichment that takes place there.
Sometimes an organization is so rotten that it is better to dissolve it than to patch it up.
Then rebuilding is fine.
And even if there would be too little farmer knowledge within FVD, even that is not an argument in this case not to vote for FVD if you do not want to let yourself be beaten up by the climate clique.
Then you should not let the elderly care and education be eroded for this.
Those are both shameful, but you would be really inhumane.

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L.Boer 19 March 2019

a vote for Baudet is a vote against Europe,
as an agricultural sector we do not want to get out of that.

/ / / / 19 March 2019

Baudet simply wants to indicate that he wants to defend Dutch interests in Europe harder than is currently happening. Baudet does not want to leave the EU at all when it comes down to it. She tried to dismiss him as a turner at this point last week.

antje 19 March 2019

apart from the opinion of mr. Calon, (he also does not say that you should vote for the Pvdlabour) fellow farmers use your common sense and especially do not vote for these populist parties and also not for the Pvd animals, then you are shooting in your own foot. Be sensible. Out of EU and no more foreigners in it..... a disaster we need them......

Harry K 19 March 2019

@L.Boer:
FVD wants to put a stop to the expanding involvement of the EU and
building a Eurosceptic coalition. In view of the European effort to put Dutch farmers in a competitive position by means of phosphate and nitrogen ceilings, and the money flows to the south and immigration to the north, an excellent course!
Bron: https://youtu.be/dkT04q6aF0Y?t=7m30s

Sweet Beet 19 March 2019

Filling the Netherlands with foreigners poses more danger than the climate.

Klaas heringa 19 March 2019

Such a shame that this PvdA corfee measures everyone's size while
Mister himself has licked himself up through the PvdA. Everything
For a.job.for lack.of.better chairman of LTO.
Not all that pretty.

piet 19 March 2019

Pim Fortune was also put away by PvdA members and associates, who were the only politicians who stood up for the mink breeders.

Jp 19 March 2019

Fvd mainly wants to let in immigrants who contribute something to society/economy.

Jantje 19 March 2019

What has LTO been doing for farmers in recent years? Nothing at all if you ask me. I'm actually surprised that so many people see little in LTO. I haven't been a member for over 10 years now. And vote, that's what I'm going to do for Mr. hiddema. Such as when he explains to the Chamber about not wanting to apply existing regulations. I would be ashamed of myself if I were a minister.

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pool boy 19 March 2019

Calon is the personification of the demise of LTO. He does not touch the feeling of the hard-working farmer. He probably fell into a pot of tomato soup when he was a kid.
Redder than red.

A pity, because the farmer can use a strong leader and a well-functioning LTO right now. Unfortunately.

Apparently it must first be demolished to the ground before it can be rebuilt

pete s 19 March 2019

Hi, I'm going to cancel my membership tomorrow

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nn 19 March 2019

Bidet has no content.
Is for better purchasing power as if others are against it.
He certainly did not understand CO2. Stupid figure.
Van Koten and de Bie had the opposite party for you and for me
a better program.

agrifurby 19 March 2019

Well Mr Calon,
which is worse: a little more difficult to do business if a nexit were to happen at all in response to FvD or PVV or more likely half of the livestock industry would be destroyed anyway if the left in the Netherlands got its way. VVD and CDA have to be flogged by Groenlinks because of a majority. PVDA is now standing on the sidelines, not realizing that the connection has been lost halfway due to a generational change.
The middle no longer exists, everything is polarized in NL. So are the debates. From a business point of view, an LTO chairman must understand all views from the supporters, including those who vote for the FvD

Skirt 19 March 2019

nn wrote:

Bidet has no content.
Is for better purchasing power as if others are against it.
He certainly did not understand CO2. Stupid figure.
Van Koten and de Bie had the opposite party for you and for me
a better program.

Very confused, hope you are doing well.

Hans 19 March 2019

Calon is not even able to do the work for which he was hired, namely to look after the interests of the agricultural Netherlands. LTO Nederland is more like a political conduit with weak knees. I can still remember last year's campaign #whatgetdeboer. Set up and then received critical responses and instead of responding or correcting the error, the action was over within two weeks. Such an interest organization is of no use to you. Fortunately, a few political parties are filling that gap. Also good to counteract the "anti" agricultural parties" who give an incorrect and distorted picture of the agricultural sector in the Netherlands.

Frans 19 March 2019

Calon, the new Melkert of the PvdA who bashs emerging politicians? Bit of a pathetic man who should be the foreman of the farmers. The only thing that links to this is the salary he gets for it, unearned.

jpk 20 March 2019

If we want to continue to grow high-quality and tasteful products, we cannot miss the crop protection products natural products score very poorly on co2 emissions jpk

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cheese head 20 March 2019

Why does it go wrong every time this man appears in the national press. I think it's his personal arrogance that keeps it going wrong. In the end it always turns out to be a Calon show.

Surely there should be a communications department that directs this.

LTO... 20 March 2019

With a PVDA member as foreman of agriculture, we will be better for sure.. please say Calon! Rather go against a PvdD, sp, Gl and pvda .. but onee calon is a leftist himself!!

LL 20 March 2019

People who try to hide their lack of abilities often come across as arrogant.

Henk 20 March 2019

Canceled my membership at the ZLTO 5 years ago, haven't regretted it for a day, you can invest / spend that 1500 euro membership money so much better. Became a member of the entrepreneurs' association in our village, recommended for everyone, other entrepreneurs, other problems. You can learn something from it for (110 euros) 3 pleasant evenings a year. Sponsorship of our daughter's sports club (125 euros) you get appreciation in return. Spend the rest a year on some extra decoration of your yard (planting information board), with an external advisor, or on a weekend or midweek away with your family. You get energy and appreciation from your environment in return. Can you do it again for another year? Lto has become a club of civil servants (extension of government) who are mainly there for their own salary, the farmers have only become an afterthought. Choose for yourself today.

jpk 20 March 2019

This is the result of lto and nfo's gossip, the sector has already been decimated because the lto and nfo really don't know what's going on among the members j backe ensures that reglone is banned by talking about plant health incompetently. brat steas van groen scores immediately. but the growers are stuck with baked pears. Horse and carriage of Schouten is not going to work

jan34 20 March 2019

and I don't like that Belgian scumbag with a bicycle rack.
if we don't reform the EU (back) until the EEC collapses, the construct will implode (as far as I'm concerned).

Ton Westgeest 21 March 2019

This is what happens when you want to do all kinds of craziness with the climate. Lying that CO2 influences global warming so much.
Arrogant candidates who lecture us, lie and cheat again and again. Open the door wide to all migrants and just give our tax money to Poland and other Eastern blockers.
CHAPEAU NETHERLANDS.

bacon steak 21 March 2019

Brabant has no choice but to stop and reverse the current policy on livestock farming with this result!!!
sp and d66 draw your conclusion!

petatje 21 March 2019

Yes exactly Tony. And LTO chairman has slammed the farmer's door in advance. Time for another board there with just as much Elan, they might get some members back.

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milks 21 March 2019

Phew, Mr. Chairman is wrong again. Want to drive the poor sheep (read members) in the pen of the red corner.
It has worked right again. Nobody listens to it. FVD largest party (also among my colleagues if I hear it that way)

Well and then Mr. the chairman will also have to sit down with Baudet and his associates. That will lead to good cooperation.
While FVd does have good points for agriculture, and the farmer is successful in that.
Stop that climate madness, agriculture more respect, and fair distribution of EU funds.

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Farmer Jan 21 March 2019

Join me on the comment, what a farce this chairman is.
In the event of a problem, they immediately cooperate with the left-wing civil service, do not provide farmers with a backing and do not dare to take a position in crucial matters to defend the farmers' interests.
Phosphate issue, Fipronil case, constantly nagging GBM, and also accepting an extra assignment at "the climate table", while the agricultural sector is doing well in this area!!
But yeah; if they already send a green half activist as a negotiator themselves, you know the outcome in advance.

Due to Baudet's success, this madness can perhaps be stopped somewhat, despite a negative voting recommendation. Amen.

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juun 21 March 2019

So that Calon can also leave, finally read what Baudet says about drivers the nail on the head my day can not go wrong.

Joost 21 March 2019

Fortunately, there is still someone who questions the total idiocy of that so-called Forum for Democracy. So we don't all run after 1 idiot who just ignores everything that comes our way. Head in the sand and back to the time when we dumped the shit in the stream and threw the ddt with the shovel over the hotbed in the garden. Back to the time when employees were servants who could be cowed at will. Back to the time when only 1 person indicated the direction and the rest of the people followed stupidly. 1939.

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ex member 21 March 2019

Shows once again how little feeling they have with their supporters.
LTO can be compared to the PVDA, they do not listen to their members, they go for their own honor and glory, and having a job is more important than carrying out the assignment of your members.

Nice to divide things among each other in the plush, and sniff contemptuously at your supporters. We saw a good example of that this week. ff give some advice to the stupid peasants.......

Good night LTO

Narcos 21 March 2019

Joost wrote:

Fortunately, there is still someone who questions the total idiocy of that so-called Forum for Democracy. So we don't all run after 1 idiot who just ignores everything that comes our way. Head in the sand and back to the time when we dumped the shit in the stream and threw the ddt with the shovel over the hotbed in the garden. Back to the time when employees were servants who could be cowed at will. Back to the time when only 1 person indicated the direction and the rest of the people followed stupidly. 1939.

Calm down Joost, it hurts ff if you as a green supporter see your subsidy flow dry up due to perhaps different policy. But we're not going to make it back to 1939.
Chill for a few days, and the confusion will subside.

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cheese head 21 March 2019

Joost wrote:

Fortunately, there is still someone who questions the total idiocy of that so-called Forum for Democracy. So we don't all run after 1 idiot who just ignores everything that comes our way. Head in the sand and back to the time when we dumped the shit in the stream and threw the ddt with the shovel over the hotbed in the garden. Back to the time when employees were servants who could be cowed at will. Back to the time when only 1 person indicated the direction and the rest of the people followed stupidly. 1939.

Well, Joost, just put a pill under your tongue.
What are you afraid of?
That your climate plan doesn't work, because there are people who can think soberly (common sense).
YOU have come to believe in the green talk of the left-wing aid workers and subsidy guzzlers.

You are allowed to continue driving in your electric car, and it is no problem at all if you go on holiday by bike because flying is not good for the environment. That is your own choice. But let the others make their own choice, and don't force it.

Enjoy your salty soy burger and your steam-guzzling heat pump, but just let us do business with respect for nature and people.

shoemakers1 21 March 2019

no Joost, as nowadays, everyone who wants to get up early to build something up with work, bully and discourage everyone

Thick Door 21 March 2019

I think this is often posted by the same person, each time under a different name. Or are many really so stupid that they don't know when to write a "d" or a "t" (but at the same time are so genius that after years of staring into a cow's ass they know more about the climate than people who live there? actually studied for it).

How much RoundUp must you have sniffed to vote for FvD as a Dutch farmer? The sector cannot survive without free export of the product, nor without the free import of cheap labor from Eastern Europe. Without Poland, many crops would rot on the land or at packaging companies where almost no Dutchman can be found anymore.

??? !!! 21 March 2019

Fat D: sector will 100% certainly be 100% destroyed by current policy.
but not only the sector, the whole of NL is also breaking down: any chance of competitive disadvantage is immediately tackled by the government.

Thick Door 21 March 2019

100% sure.....100% broken.....all NL.....any chance.....

If the Netherlands were to be destroyed by something, it would mainly be this kind of fact-free yelling.

peter 21 March 2019

@ fat D
Why do so many farmers and SMEs stop. than? And do young people no longer feel like it? Can you explain that in more detail please?

Thick Door 21 March 2019

Peter,

To stay a bit on the topic of the above discussion: I don't think that farmers stop because the Netherlands is in the EU or that they give up because labor migrants come to the Netherlands. Yet 2 main pillars of the otherwise meager FvD program.

Apart from the fact that in environmental and climate discussions I prefer to be informed by people who understand rather than listen to someone who is proud to have completed his studies in history and law, I also note that it is certainly not only the government that comes up with "difficult rules". Today's chain stores' demands on pesticide use, animal welfare and working conditions often go far beyond what is required by law.

Farmer aware 21 March 2019

The requirements of the chain store mainly apply to gain more purchasing power, to create higher balances and to fool the consumer a bit.
Import products may meet completely different standards and requirements than those produced in our own country.
Meat, eggs, vegetables you name it.

jan34 21 March 2019

Dikke Deur "by people who understand" there are various theories and scenarios about climate change.
The Gore hypnosis led politicians, not scientists, to accept the CO2 fable as THE truth, proclaim it and then sign a Paris agreement, without knowing its implications.
The scientists who support other scenarios are first ignored by politicians and the media and then dismissed.
That's how it works in the popular science world, driven by ideology.
Just like with the questions about the origin of life (coincidence asks one, Creation believes the other), where Creation is dismissed as a backward idea. This while many scientists in this specialism are not yet aware of it.
Your body is so wonderfully constructed that, with all the research for a century, we still haven't even understood it, let alone the origin/development can be understood/explained. Coincidence requires a great deal of faith.

In your appeal to scientists, it would be good to name them and state their specialism, as well as the ideology they adhere to, because (fortunately) they too are not value-free.

shoemakers1 21 March 2019

I also know a big fat door, it does depend on left-wing politics, simply because he doesn't feel like going to work

Thick Door 22 March 2019

Jan34,

No idea what my body has to do with the original topic of the discussion, but go ahead:

Even if he doesn't know everything about the body: when I'm sick, I prefer to go to a doctor who has studied for at least 6 years. Apparently you are just as happy going to a historian who promises you that everything will be okay as long as you take 2 glasses of undiluted morning urine every day.

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Best 22 March 2019

that Calon is PVDA do not understand that such a guy can become the figurehead of LTO. he destroys LTO what it was founded for. I would say now the farmers have to decide who should be their figurehead at the lto. new vision new people time for change. the people have chosen the peasantry. down with Calon down with climate. and we must force change. we need to set a new course with new people. Calling all entrepreneurs.

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Best 22 March 2019

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Calons.

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not 24 March 2019

saw / heard the conversation with priest Antoine Bodar today people you should go and look at that is comment as it should be

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sad horn 25 March 2019

Anyone happen to read the new crop this weekend?

Not a word about Calon's interview and disgust on FVD. Now just a nice general bit of nagging about the elections and that FVD doesn't really have a party plan for agriculture. Nowhere about Calon and his umpteenth slip.

It's propaganda, and it's brushing up yet another mistake.

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lto-er 29 March 2019

Now I'm going to have my doubts. Just read research into lto and it shows that they still have less than 50% of the farmers as members. But also that the members themselves give them a 5 for their performance.
And especially the national government.

I would draw my conclusions if I were the board.

Otherwise I will join that 53% and cancel

squeezer 6 April 2019

Calon interferes with FvD more than the farmers
Lift the lto
That romijn also filled the stable for that infamous date
What good is lto if they only think of themselves and do not put members on the agenda for changes, they are scammers

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