Interview Marc Jansen

'Government risks disrupting market forces'

15 May 2019 - Jeannet Pennings - 9 comments

The supermarket industry is not afraid of the  planning by Minister Carola Schouten (Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality). It wants to give farmers and horticulturists more power in the chain. On the other hand, the effectiveness of this new legislation is questioned. Marc Jansen, director at the Central Bureau for Food Trade (CBL), is also concerned that the market will be disrupted.

How does the CBL view the minister's plans, and what bottlenecks do you see in the chain?
"We think it is good that farmers and horticulturists organize their own market power and we also encourage that. If you cannot operate alone, for example because you are too small, then you have to make plans and look for allies. In fact, this has been happening for over 100 years, because most farmers are united in cooperatives." 

"The omnibus scheme expands the possibilities for farmers to make mutual agreements, whereby the Netherlands Authority for Consumers and Markets (ACM) turns a blind eye. That is fine in itself, as long as this does not lead to monopolies. We must be careful that not one party the market determines. Market forces are the basis of a healthy economy. Competition makes chains and companies stronger and ultimately ensures the best products and highest quality. We do find it worrying that the government is putting forward more and more ideas that could disrupt that market."

New legislation must ensure that primary producers will soon be able to make agreements and act together against unfair trading practices. Is that right?
"We are also against unfair trade practices. Parties must be able to do business with each other and fulfill agreements in a normal way. What I do find objectionable is the complete one-sidedness of the new legislation. It suggests that farmers will benefit from this, but that is not the case." the question remains. The law will prohibit certain commercial practices and prescribe at a micro level what customers are no longer allowed to do. This will limit the freedom of contract, which will especially benefit large manufacturers."

Is it a good thing that Schouten has set up the Earning Capacity Taskforce to map out farmers' earning models?
"Actually, it is the other way around that the Dutch government is going to look at the business model of entrepreneurs. Normally there is a market, as an entrepreneur you respond to that and you make a price and therefore a revenue model. In our opinion, this is mainly an attempt by the government to enforce its policy and make the market pay for it."

"I myself am a member of the Taskforce's sounding board group, which also looks at all kinds of other preconditions, such as financing and permit processes. This is being mapped out and I am curious what will come of it. It is important that this is taken into account. that the Netherlands is an exporting country."

ACM must provide insight into the pricing of agricultural products via the agro-nutri monitor. What do you expect from this?
"This is the third time that ACM has done this. The past 2 investigations yielded a fairly consistent picture, and there were no parties that made excessive money. I do not expect this study to provide new insights. It would be good if the ACM does not make it too easy for itself Don't just take a close look at 'single products' such as eggs and peppers, but also look at a product such as tomato that is used in everything and has many different purchase and final prices. the dozens of ingredients of pizza."

How does the CBL view the organization of chains, such as Vion envisions for the pig sector, in which cooperation is based on long-term agreements?
"We call this 'dedicated supply chain', in which groups of farmers and supermarkets coordinate matters. I think it is good to think along with the end customer in this way. We are also in favor of long-term agreements. By setting demands on each other, we can meet the demand from society and it also offers certainty, not only for growers, but also for supermarkets who want to be sure that the supplier can still deliver tomorrow and 1 year from now."

Does the CBL recognize itself in the noise that supermarkets do not pay for a sustainable product that takes animal welfare, climate and biodiversity into account?
"We do not recognize ourselves in that at all. Take the labels Beter Leven and Kip van Morgen and organic products, they simply pay for it. If the additional price does not reach the farmer, he would go bankrupt. I think it is a pity that these noises form a barrier for growers to switch. With the new plans, the minister puts the farmer and supermarket in direct opposition to each other, while in our opinion there is more and more cooperation and satisfaction."

What is the long-term effect of Minister Schouten's plans?
"About 80% of Dutch agricultural production is destined for export. Agreements made now, however, only apply to production for supermarkets in the Netherlands. I think that in the coming years there will be an even tougher dividing line between the farmers who the Dutch supermarket (cost plus) and producers who are dependent on the capricious world market."

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Jeanette Pennings

Jeannet has her roots in the flower bulb sector and she grew up on an agricultural company in the northern part of North Holland. As a generalist she reports for Boerenbusiness across all sectors. She is also exploring the possibilities of sponsored advertising.
Comments
9 comments
Frans 15 May 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/financieel/ artikel/10882487/overheid-riskeert-distortion-marktwerking]'Government risks disrupting market forces'[/url]
Marc is the doll of the supermarket multinationals. Easy job, every time playing his long-playing record which was handed to him when he took office.
Bert 16 May 2019
I hope Marc can explain why the prices in the supermarket have (almost) doubled in the last 20 years, while the prices at the farmer have remained the same on average.
It is high time the exploitation stopped.
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Jan Peter 16 May 2019
He's supposedly trying to say it sweet, but he's a bloodhound. Has nothing to do with farmers, yes we can nod and keep our mouths shut. That's what he stands for. Pay as little as possible for supermarket raw materials and make as much margin as possible.
Not worth an interview.
Thick 16 May 2019
Mr Jansen has worked for LTO Nederland for many years, so he is very well aware of the weakness of livestock farming.
Cor 16 May 2019
If LTO now hires Mr. Jansen again, give him a bonus of € 25.000 on his current salary and he will lobby for farmers as he does for retail. He would be a very good asset to LTO, I see and hear him appear more often than our own Marc!!
Marc Jansen 17 May 2019
To Frans, Bert, Jan Pieter, Dick and Kor,

I would like to talk to you about this interview and your reactions.
Maybe we can do that via the site of Boerenbusiness to do. They have excellent studio facilities and so we can turn it into a discussion broadcast. As far as I'm concerned, this is how we get further and come to solutions.
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Skirt 17 May 2019
Evolution has not given any organism that neglects its food source the right to exist.
Cor 27 May 2019
Dear sir Jansen,

Thank you for your invitation to the studio of boerenbusiness.

As long as you remain employed at the CBL, I have no need to enter into a discussion with you.
I only hope that the European Commission researchers who raided French supermarkets to investigate their purchasing will also do the same at Dutch supermarkets.

If you would like to make a career switch to, for example, LTO, I would be happy to discuss this with you.

Yours faithfully,

Cor
Cor 27 May 2019
Dear sir Jansen,

Thank you for your invitation to the studio of boerenbusiness.

As long as you remain employed at the CBL, I have no need to enter into a discussion with you.
I only hope that the European Commission researchers who raided French supermarkets to investigate their purchasing will also do the same at Dutch supermarkets.

If you would like to make a career switch to, for example, LTO, I would be happy to discuss this with you.

Yours faithfully,

Cor
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