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Central government and provinces continue to tamper with latent space

4 December 2019 - Wouter Baan - 52 comments

The cabinet and the provinces want to continue to use the licensed, but not realized, stable capacity in order to reduce nitrogen. Also with external netting, the so-called 'latent space' goes back to nature, reports Minister Carola Schouten (Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality) in a letter to parliament.

What was that again? In the letter to parliament of October 4 the cabinet chose to make internal and external net metering possible in order to achieve nitrogen reduction. The provinces then went on to make the policy more difficult by themselves by basing it, for example, on the stocking density. Many farmers protested this and the measures were put 'on hold'. Schouten then consulted with the provinces to get back on track.  

Internal netting
The policy envisaged by the central government and the provinces means that internal and external balancing remains possible. When farmers apply for permits, the latent space (the difference between the licensed and realized capacity) is taken up again. This pain point for farmers will therefore not be deleted.

The Agriculture Collective also has the requirement that the licensed housing capacity may not be taken, but this is not complied with. The Agricultural Collective gave earlier on Wednesday 4 December another statement with a reproach to Minister Schouten for taking too few concrete steps in the consultation with the collective.

Schouten emphasizes that farmers who continue their business operations can continue to use the licensed capacity. Schouten also discusses 'trapped situations'. These are the companies that have not yet realized the licensed capacity, but have already made irreversible investments. For those companies, fully licensed nitrogen emissions will remain available.

External netting
With external netting, the creaming percentage of 30% remains intact. In addition, it may be built in to increase or decrease the percentage in certain areas in order to achieve the desired reduction. According to Schouten, strict conditions apply to this. Just like with internal netting, the latent space goes back to nature.

Animal and phosphate rights
Schouten also writes that the provinces have nothing to do with animal and phosphate rights. It is not clear, however, whether the central government wants to manage the ammonia space (and thus the size of the livestock) in this way. The cabinet is still considering this and wants to provide clarity before 1 February. Until then, external netting is not yet possible.

Finally, Schouten mentions in the letter that the proposed measures have been legally tested. However, the proposed agreements are subject to the approval of the Provincial Executive.

Click here to read the letter to parliament. 

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Wouter Baan is editor-in-chief of Boerenbusiness. He also focuses on dairy, pig and meat markets. He also follows (business) developments within agribusiness and interviews CEOs and policymakers.

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52 comments
Karel 4 December 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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It's time to shut down the entire food chain!
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smart ass 4 December 2019
at christmas and new year
1 week
dane 4 December 2019
Ha, ha. Try to shut down the entire food chain in the Netherlands. Everything depends on imports and exports in this country. Then it is simply taken from elsewhere and the citizen does not notice anything
Mdv 4 December 2019
Theft legal!!!!!! monister Schouten goes after Marianne Toeme if she does not solve the Israel wine labels boycott. Mr Segers has already raised this in the opposition. Minister Schouten YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!
dirk 4 December 2019
It doesn't stop, not by itself! What the hell is behind this for destroying a nation's food supply? It has nothing to do with the environment, every sane person knows, but what does? And who is in charge of this? It would be very interesting if the news would take a stab at this. It's only a matter of time before a revolt breaks out, it's gambling where it starts?
dane 4 December 2019
Look, if the farmer would become a bit more reasonable and would like to jointly think along with solutions for how farming and nature can go together, then it would also become acceptable to pay a good price for the products. If farmers only keep demanding, while one third of all EU subsidy money goes to farmers, it is a bit out of proportion
After all, these subsidies are paid by all citizens. We should also have some nature conservation in return instead of just demanding farmers.
dirk 4 December 2019
Good Daantje, I don't want a subsidy again and I never had one. But if it no longer exists, your food will become twice as expensive.
Skirt 4 December 2019
@Daantje, how can it be that Beterleven 2 star has to be sold below cost price? Where is that great citizen who is willing to pay an acceptable price for the product?? There isn't one....
dane 4 December 2019
I buy all my food organic so I've been paying that for a long time so don't scare me with that
dane 4 December 2019
Maybe learn to distinguish between those so-called. citizen who would not be willing to pay and the supermarket chains who exploit (on both sides, both the farmer and the consumer)
dane 4 December 2019
Giving a lot of subsidy money to farmers who do not want to participate in the conservation of nature, I think that is a waste of money. Then it might be better to grant those subsidies to nature conservation itself or to organic farmers
Avdakker 4 December 2019
Daantje half of the GLB subsidy must be paid to Terrain managing organizations, isn't it different from what you think???
Gr. The organic farmer
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south farmer 4 December 2019
Daantje wrote:
Maybe learn to distinguish between those so-called. citizen who would not be willing to pay and the supermarket chains who exploit (on both sides, both the farmer and the consumer)
Thus Daantje who first proclaimed that everything in this country depends on imports and exports. Fair point by the way, but it's one system or the other and not both. In the meantime it is also clear what the consumer (and also Daantje) chooses.
Thomas 4 December 2019
Organic is really the biggest nonsense, per kilogram of product, organic is not a hair better than normal.
Klaas 4 December 2019
Daantje wrote:
Look, if the farmer would become a bit more reasonable and would like to jointly think along with solutions for how farming and nature can go together, then it would also become acceptable to pay a good price for the products. If farmers only keep demanding, while one third of all EU subsidy money goes to farmers, it is a bit out of proportion
After all, these subsidies are paid by all citizens. We should also have some nature conservation in return instead of just demanding farmers.
many things for citizens also depend on subsidies,
solar panels.
electric car
house insulation.
so we are not alone.
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Fortissimo 4 December 2019
"Look, if the farmer would become a bit more reasonable and would like to jointly think along with solutions for how farming and nature can go together, then it would also become acceptable to pay a good price for the products". We have had all the permits Daantje for years, so if there is one sector that meets all the requirements, it is agriculture. We live in a constitutional state. If you meet all the requirements, you cannot be accused of non-cooperation on the basis of reasonableness and fairness. Unfortunately, there are many who do not meet the requirements and they do not dare to speak to them about this. That's what stings many farmers.
Marie 4 December 2019
We must solve problems now and not pass them on to the next generation. Stop tolerating and buy or buy back nitrogen rights. Subsidies, an attractive revenue model, are similar to drug addiction, you crave more, and it makes you dependent. The basis of subsidies must be different: no longer proportional: the greater the subsidy. My father was a farmer, he refused subsidies on principle. Working together with colleagues yields more was his motto.
anne 4 December 2019
Farmers send a bill to the government en masse. And there it is. you demand nitrogen reduction. It is a property right. So pay €150 per kg. you want to use this nitrogen for other sectors. Investments cost money. And borrowing money for this does not apply. and also 'latent space is a property right. Took 10 years to get the permits. cost a lot of money. and take it off again. the rights have a lot of value. so pay.
Thomas 5 December 2019
Agriculture has been on the right track for years, innovating a lot and producing more and more sustainably, we are the best in the class, even internationally. It is better to raise agricultural production even further to a higher level by means of balanced techniques. Organic farming are Ot and Sien stories or for a vegetable garden, you can never feed the world with that..
dane 5 December 2019
one third of the entire EU budget goes to farmers' subsidies, I heard in a broadcast from the Buitenhof: https://www.vpro.nl/buitenhof/speel~POMS_AT_15739387~europa-en-de-stikstofcrisis~.html?fbclid=IwAR1KuM -IrorF8ZFQvoeKt-6-HIGyU2qbW03LLrUSHk-TesLStYSfL_-iyRw

That doesn't sound like nothing to me!

There is therefore nothing wrong with the attention that farmers receive from all kinds of governments. There is something wrong with the information provided by the LTO and other farmers' organizations about what is actually possible with regard to farming methods while preserving values ​​that are necessary for nature conservation.

This information, together with a number of decisions taken by people like Bleker, among others, have made that the farmers are now confronted with the situation as it is now.

Nevertheless, see that the farmers do not get angry at the authorities and people who have been falsely informing them for years and promise mountains of gold that simply aren't there.

No, they want more of the same. Well that is simply not possible. the golden mountains do not exist and the only sensible decisions that can be made now is for the farmers to think about how they want to leave the land for their own children and grandchildren. Like a green-grey desert without any further life or like a country where a multitude of animals and plants can exist.

By demanding what is now being demanded, the choice is clearly towards the green-grey desert.
dane 5 December 2019
I therefore do not understand at all why the farmers drove their tractors to provincial houses instead of to the offices of the people who have been telling them all kinds of things for many years now, such as the board of the LTO and other farmers. organizations.

And they didn't drive to Bleker's house to explain to him what he actually messed up while he was in power.

Nope, instead the agricultural collective just demands the same thing again.

I'm sorry, but those subsidies that the EU gives you are paid for by people like me through taxpayers' money. We do not only want good agriculture for that, but also nature!
John 5 December 2019
Those subsidies that are given to the farmers are land-based. Every hectare that is worked receives a small premium. This is a European incentive to cultivate so much land for food so that there is enough food even in a year with bad harvests.

As a farmer you would rather not have a subsidy so that you can empty the wallet of the citizen in a bad year, but our government has set up a subsidy system to prevent this.

These agricultural subsidies are then an insurance premium for sufficient affordable food. I think that as a citizen you should think carefully about whether that subsidy goes to a farmer for planting a hedge or sowing a field.
dane 5 December 2019
And you can continue to incite each other as farmers and keep asking for even more impossible things, but that does not change the facts. It's a reaction like a child who wants more candy, but doesn't get it from mommy or daddy.
That's called drama.
It doesn't help. The nitrogen deposition will not decrease because a number of farmers are struggling. It will only become less if one wants to face the facts and opt for a different board at the LTO and related organizations.
A board that is fair and presents the facts as they are. Not a government that has led the farmers to this impossible situation for years with the wrong facts and the wrong measures.

Nor can I imagine that farmers themselves cannot sense that what the agricultural collective is asking for is not right.

So why not think along instead of working against it.
Once again, these subsidies for farmers are really not only coughed up by farmers themselves, many citizens and companies in Europe contribute to this. So they might as well have a say in this.
until here and no further 5 December 2019
that Daan has claimed an entire stage here, I think it is a shame that he has completely lost sight of reality and reality, he must have been hired by Rutte to create a different sound here, the green left-wing sound that destroys the whole of the Netherlands, he doesn't mind digging his own grave, and together for the rest of the country. Daantje needs to wake up and face reality, this is no longer possible what is imposed
boer 5 December 2019
may Daantje
back to work too? Apparently you are on benefits. Otherwise you wouldn't have time to write the same text over and over. First take a look at the companies without a cycle, then come to us. We can really reduce something, but that comes at a cost. Be ready to be robbed.
until here and no further 5 December 2019
And you talk that the farmers receive too much subsidy and are allowed to do something for it, products that require, among other things, organic ones, are flown in from all sides, if it could be so easy with labor, how much hidden subsidy is there on work, and also your benefits, wouldn't you call that a subsidy?
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sober 5 December 2019
Biologically a good thing if people ask about it, it is a niche market. But what does it add to the environment per kilo of product. Below the line zero , zero. Emissions are nothing less. Keeping animals in traditional housing systems produces fewer emissions per kilo of product. That's what we want, that's what we're investing in. And would nature ruin nature? What do we do with all those wild pigs, deer, ponies and I know what kinds of feral cows. Nobody can live off these zero emissions?
Bob 5 December 2019
When it comes to emissions, you should immediately abolish biological and better living.
If we also abolish all subsidies, then we will also get rid of Natuurmonumenten (110000000)
Most nature has been created by farmers
Nature is part of it, but that stamp has to come off, everyone suffers from it
N expert 5 December 2019
Should the N emissions from livestock farming not be re-examined, at Lelystad airport there has been booing in favor, so for us at a disadvantage. Then Schiphol's emissions are not correct either
Bob 5 December 2019
The whole nitrogen story is wrong!!!
Skirt 5 December 2019
Daantje tries to talk to himself about the pathetic factor of a koala bear, the reality is that he is a real consumer who always goes for the cheapest over the back of someone else.
Pieter 5 December 2019
I want to become a farmer. Taking over my parents' business. I don't want to inherit the nitrogen problem, so it has to be solved now. My parents have become the victims of tolerance policy and hand-clapping politics of the government, lto, etc. Solving now means having a future.
market 5 December 2019
it's kinda funny in itself
**** here the farmers accused of harassing

not so long ago I saw a photo of that *** from D66 pass by
wearing a sweater with climate dramamer on it and he was proud of it too
peer 5 December 2019
dear Daantje
you don't have to be with the producer but with the consumer to change things. we only produce what the market demands
think 95% of people don't care where the food comes from and where it comes from
thigh us it is so you ask and who will make it for you
mvg a young entrepreneur from Holland

and about politics I've never seen them burst with the first lie and I don't trust any one
Jb 5 December 2019
We now have the collective who will speak for us I think it will be all right if the emissions at lelystad are calculated incorrectly, our spokespersons are not empty-handed and actions follow we will keep this up until the new election is done
Karin 5 December 2019
So do I also get the money back for paying the permit?

This is legalized theft (criminals)!

Time to make room in The Hague with hopefully more capable people! They are chosen there to represent the people.... they make a mess of that!
geert 5 December 2019
Kids know, all food comes from the supermarket. The farmer is no more than a landscape caretaker.
Jozef 5 December 2019
We must drastically limit the number of Natura 2000/nature reserves. People have been working on turning the Netherlands into one large nature reserve. Other countries such as Germany and France are laughing their ass off at this hassle.
aria 5 December 2019
What I wonder is, how can someone want to become a minister of agriculture who wants to kick a sector that has been pushed into a corner because of the failure of the national government.
geert 5 December 2019
Pure theft of the latent space, the government is criminal
Joop 5 December 2019
You really can't steal latent space! Not really! Especially not if you go to church properly on Sundays! And not for others either! Stealing is not allowed! Not really! Otherwise I'll empty Carola's house!
Marie 5 December 2019
Much has been tolerated and cheated in the past; so surrender latent rights and surrender cows. It's simple, risk of entrepreneurship. Everyone has to surrender; 100 km instead of 130 km. Do not index pension. What do the farmers whine, my brother doesn't whine either.
Linden 5 December 2019
Farmers also pay tax, which subsidizes childcare, among other things. And farmers take care of their children themselves. An ordinary family business does not receive that much eu subsidy. And as long as not knowing how to proceed with your business is bad for every entrepreneur. Theft also meant cutting your phosphate rights. Which you could therefore buy back for almost one hundred thousand euros. And not yet on your old number
Marie 5 December 2019
That farmers are not ashamed of all those hundreds of agricultural subsidy pots; for the craziest you get a subsidy. Now grow up. Farmers are the largest group of "benefit recipients". My brother who is a farmer gets a red face when we talk about this. Farmers, I'm serious: go to therapy.
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Bertie6 6 December 2019
What a ***** are writing here about the farmers, no respect whatsoever, we have not opted for subsidies, that is the consumer who goes for 90% of the bargains and of course the middlemen who make money with money. So that's why we need a subsidy and that's how the consumer contributes
Linden 6 December 2019
You are absolutely right, bertje, milk prices in supermarkets have been kept low for decades. I therefore do not understand that Marie is attacking farmers about subsidies. People in paid employment demand more and more wages and free for anything and everything. But no Marie and Daan think the farmer should hand in even more
Skirt 6 December 2019
@Marie it's laughable with what nonsense you keep coming up with. I wonder if you can do even crazier, surprise us!
Marie 6 December 2019
Then start working on higher prices. Glass of beer is cheaper than a liter of milk. Meat can also be much more expensive. Make sure the supermarkets don't leave with the margin.. Don't be pathetic anymore and don't always point at others.. Have the backbone to not be a benefit recipient. Flatten AH and Jumbo instead of bullying a neat burger
Jb 6 December 2019
Marie work with your brother for a week 7 days full time you talk about us differently and your brother is ashamed
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south farmer 6 December 2019
Marie wrote:
Then start working on higher prices. Glass of beer is cheaper than a liter of milk. Meat can also be much more expensive. Make sure the supermarkets don't leave with the margin.. Don't be pathetic anymore and don't always point at others.. Have the backbone to not be a benefit recipient. Flatten AH and Jumbo instead of bullying a neat burger
The prices especially for Marie seem to be going up. She can have it apparently. However, citizens normally don't like paying more for food at all just to be clear.
Fred 9 December 2019
Get in each other's hair, the ruling lobbyists are still right about foot soldiers of our lobbycracy and their reigning grinning waiters to subjugate unattainable standards:

you are not the problem, but part of the solution

The only farmer in this country had given this talking wolf a taste of his own dough, apparently we like to be screwed in the holLand, our own rutland.
Ruttevanger of the hedge 9 December 2019
Subsidies and unattainable standards are the chains with which the Dutch are preferably subjected to mortgages, inflation creates an insane relationship between labor currency versus junk that we carry with us, Tesla and media rubbish where the pollution during production is settled in the country of origin (nitrogen):

Elite Europe returns from 1930 through the back door (after Rome).
our waiters from The Hague welcome them.

To rule is to enslave the people, this is just the beginning, lied and cheated that our cursed Russia could only dream of and what stops Trump crucified by us.

Cultures are given away by social historians, of course, an eternal sin of God.
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