Farmers Defense Force: 'Supermarket threatens farmer'

nn 12 December 2019

This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/financieel/ artikel/10885004/farmers-defence-force-supermarkt-endreigt-boer]Farmers Defense Force: 'Supermarket threatens farmer'[/url]

If you, as an FDF, get the 2nd world war off the shelf, you also evoke a reaction about yourself.

Henk 12 December 2019

That a couple of Caterpillars can never get enough FARMERS wants to put the rest of the agricultural world in a bad light is beyond me.
Start marketing your products yourself. There is already a Welkoop.

Bob 12 December 2019

If you read the text carefully, then we should listen to those supermarkets again and have them put further in the corner, I didn't think so.
Let's stop letting us dictate the rules and let them think with the government what they've screwed up all these years

Burger feels cheated 12 December 2019

Farmers, don't be put off by that threat from the supermarkets,
Together with the government they are all pickpockets on the back of the ordinary Dutchman!!

until here and no further 12 December 2019

Here they decorate with the most beautiful pictures from here, then put all the rubbish from elsewhere on the shelves, who is cheating who?

Narcos 12 December 2019

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Martin van Mastwijk 12 December 2019

Supermarkets should be an extension of our farmers and should respect each other's income, especially nationally. Unfortunately, their buyers are trained to buy blind as cheaply as possible. For our farmers, who are once at the base of the production chain and it is easiest to undress. Our government has a role in this. Then we can produce sufficient and perfectly safe food.

Leo 12 December 2019

Dear FDF, dear farmers, the only correct way of campaigning is to let the milk run into the slurry pit. Completely legitimate and exactly the wish of the ministry, circular agriculture, from the cow back to the land, what more could we want...

Leo 12 December 2019

@Martin van Mastwijk,

From your story I understand that you prefer to buy concentrates, diesel and other items to be purchased from the most expensive address and if not transfer a bonus, the suppliers are entitled to a big wallet.

pete 12 December 2019

Supermarket owners make so much money off the farmer's back and mislead the consumer
that they can afford the most expensive lawyers

pete 12 December 2019

At Jan Linders there is a large sign above the display case with beef stating that the beef comes from Limosine cattle that graze in the Limburg and Brabant nature reserves and meet the Better Life quality mark.
The display case contains a maximum of 5 packages that comply with that sign, the rest is mainly bulk from Ireland, UK, Slovenia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Germany, Belgium, France, etc.
Furthermore, a small part that only meets the better life quality mark.
On Tuesday there was even meat from Poland with a 2-star quality mark on the packaging and a regional sticker on the packaging.
The area at Jan Linders is very large!

shoemakers 1 12 December 2019

No Leo, I also want to hire Africans or something like that to have the work done cheaply, but I have to observe the rules applicable here, what the supers sell does not have to meet anything

Frans 12 December 2019

Folks, don't do too much cry cry. We export 70% of our agricultural products. How hypocritical are you if you don't want to allow imports. I am in favor of taking a hard line against the unsustainable purchasing of CBL members!

* Comment edited due to forum rules violation.

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Also a farmer 12 December 2019

The buyers of vegetable products are still partly on the road with the prices that the supermarkets are willing to pay. And that is the price at which they bring in the consumer with lures to sell the rest dearly. In doing so, the grower's thumbscrews are increasingly tightened in terms of requirements. I argue for consultation with the supermarkets, but now finally hitting the table hard and showing what you are worth as a producing party is also very good for once. Until here and no further.

Bjorn 12 December 2019

I hope the members of LTO wake up one day and the board closes down

concerned farmer 12 December 2019

hello bj&oum;rn
whoever you may be.
no lto then you were already regionally disabled.
let's stop pushing each other like peasants and shoulder to shoulder.

Pedro 12 December 2019

De Boer is the only one in our society who has to buy at retail prices and sell at wholesale prices.

grain grower 12 December 2019

@ concerned farmer

you also live in a dream world! LTO at the regional level only does something for those stupid livestock farmers who can never get their throats felt enough.

Piet 12 December 2019

If the media is completely dependent on supermarkets and animal activist groups in the big advertisements. Two continents come together here.
The farmer as a scapegoat and making usurious profits at their backs.
Worse, you're going to play them out worldwide with an uneven playing field.
You can copy the book ""cannot be true"" about the credit crisis in 2008 with the nitrogen crisis, on which the computer models of a RIVM can no longer make policy by any director in the world. The author's conclusion is ""there is flying an airplane without a crew in the cockpit. Would an empty cockpit, if now clear, also be full of ""Only full of green-left driver and officials chasing each other." "The new elite who think as a theological movement that nature is wholly without attention. The first victims of this nitrogen swamp were the meadow birds that with the mandatory fertilizer injection.Darwin's law ""food supply is decisive if a species does not go extinct" "Worms die en masse in the spring since the obligation. But good for ammonia emissions according to the RIVM.
While many farmers have been hit hard by the drought two years in a row. Assemble a new party with crews who are already making policy that the first hunger trips through the EU in 20 years' time.

Geertruid 13 December 2019

Manifesto: taken from the heart! An important spearhead: informing citizens about the misbehavior of civil servants and "nature" organizations. Throw all filth in the spotlight. Also pay attention to PvdD; they go about their business imperturbably, and secretly get away with it too.

antoinette 13 December 2019

A fine piece. This should reach as many people as possible

Jan 13 December 2019

Do we have to pay with gold and silver just like in the war

Erwin 13 December 2019

Getting a little tired of those farmers with their arguing. Have had it a bit, hope the citizens will revolt against the farmers. But that's going to happen, lawyers are already filing an objection with every environmental permit application from a farm.

rule maker 13 December 2019

has long been going on leftist activist

Easy 14 December 2019

Oo oo peasants you really have it that bad. Take a look at what you own and what subsidies you receive from various governments.
There are those who work harder and have less.

Law 14 December 2019

Best grain grower.

The entire Retail/supermarket chain or whatever you want to call them that we now express our dissatisfaction with makes grateful use of the kind of comments from your mouth. "DIVIDE AND CONQUER" is their motto and you are diligently doing it. It is a pity that there is still so much division in the sector itself. Everyone prefers to clean their own sidewalk and the other parties know how to make good use of that. As long as this doesn't change, we won't really get any further!

Emil 14 December 2019

I have read Farmers Defense Force:

https://farmersdefenceforce.nl/

No Teflon brain abuser can withstand the truth, social historian memorist with selective bureaucratic memory, active memory or not.

I'm not a farmer, but I recognize the truth we work for.

Law 14 December 2019

Dear Easy
I think you're looking at things a bit wrong.
For the sake of convenience (you hide behind a pseudonym3m so I have to assume something) I will assume that you are in your mid-30s.
The next story;
In the morning you normally get up around 7 o'clock.... Stop! should no longer be 6.28am exactly. in case of deviation there will be a penalty.
Normally you take a shower first...stop! is not allowed anymore, it will be every other day from 6.30 to 6.34 exactly and water temp.29 degrees. fine will follow in case of deviation
Then breakfast, normal egg, muesli and cup of coffee .. stop! is no longer allowed, is or egg with bread or meusli, coffee is allowed, but it must be soft.
Arrived at work, normally you are a process operator, the department manager informs you that today you are assigned to the daycare of colleagues, tomorrow you are an executive officer and the day after tomorrow you deliver the mail and keep the place clean.
Your planned sun holiday to the south of England in mid-June..stop! must not continue. this will be moved to the beginning of November and has to go to Scotland, 2 weeks can stay. If there is no interest, the planned costs will still be deducted from your monthly wage..... And so on.

Dear easy.. It's not about what we all have or don't have. What matters is that we as an agricultural sector, whether you are milking cows or growing beans, become completely confused by all the arrangements and comments from the government and from those who think they should / can sit in our chair. That is the true cause of the unrest that has been playing in our sector (for much longer)

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onion 14 December 2019

easy is a bit right a farmer with 100ha catches about
40.000 euro subsidy this is hard to explain to anyone
that is why we must ensure that we do not put the citizens against us with actions

Leo 14 December 2019

Why do you want to explain that onion? Do polluting industries also explain the waste that they discharge into surface water? Farmers have only one thing to learn and that is to shut up, omerta!

JD 14 December 2019

Hahaha what a bullshit here about subsidies that a farmer receives
All devised by your officials, tax is paid on it and then your benefit. hahaha

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Hannes 14 December 2019

I agree with the farmer , only that action as it was held in Amsterdam makes sense and please find a good spokesperson who tells the story for the farmers !!! I now only see young guys who like to go out with a big tractor, but when they are asked something they don't know or they are talking nonsense It's good that we make ourselves heard, but with public-unfriendly actions we support of the sober-minded citizens in no time.

jp 14 December 2019

Erwin wrote:

Getting a little tired of those farmers with their arguing. Have had it a bit, hope the citizens will revolt against the farmers. But that's going to happen, lawyers are already filing an objection with every environmental permit application from a farm.

Erwin, I suggest you revolt against the peasants. propose me; stop eating!
Do you have to see how fast you can get those farmers small......

arable farmer 14 December 2019

Boerenbusiness Please stop here and stop this discussion!

until here and no further 14 December 2019

This also includes arable farmers

until here and no further 14 December 2019

Boerenbusiness, please stop here the people who want to undermine the willingness to take action, this is not about anything

arable farmer 14 December 2019

fine but keep the discussion clean

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erik 14 December 2019

the FDF consists for a (large) part of dairy farmers who have almost always had their way since the introduction of the super levy (1983). The bottlenecks and exceptions need not feel attacked, the implementation of the rules has regularly been very debatable. But if you get two free allowances that are negotiable and depreciable, you never learn to deal with setbacks, and you start acting like a toddler who starts screaming and whining to be proven right. So please keep talking in a decent way, otherwise you will be the loser of the future. Congratulations on that

Law 14 December 2019

A number of responses back mention the subsidies we have received, being approximately 200 euros per hectare. This roughly amounts to 2,5 euro cents per kg of harvested wheat based on a yield of 8000 kg per ha. The price will therefore be 18,5 euro cents per kg including the "subsidy". About 40/50 years ago, as a farmer you were earning more than 40 cents (guilders) per kg. There were no subsidies then. Every family had to spend a considerable part of their income on the basic necessities of life, food. This was not allowed, it had to be cheaper. Thanks to subsidies, the price could / was allowed to come down. Burger was happy and could spend his money elsewhere. Farmer was compensated for lower prices by means of the aforementioned subsidy
If the subsidies are under discussion.. OK to abolish under 2 conditions. This must be worldwide (including any form of income support anywhere in the world) and price adjustment through fair market forces.
Let's see who has the last laugh...

until here and no further 14 December 2019

The truth is sometimes hard, and looking away was also done in 40-45

shoemakers 1 14 December 2019

And lei, also free market forces for labour!

Drent 14 December 2019

farmer, you speak for yourself. I am also a farmer but fully support fdf, am all the regulations completely fed up and you think fdf is a cattle farmers club? logical there are more ranchers than arable farmers, but without a cattle rancher no manure for your land. Bit shortsighted of you, only as 1 block of agriculture you can achieve something instead of doing nothing. Fdf also stands for a level playing field in terms of plant protection products and is against the Mercosur deal, but apparently you are all fine with that.

lei 14 December 2019

Shoemakers 1

Labor... Well . Suppose you are a Bulgarian truck driver and you work for a Dutch company with a branch in Bulgaria. You are well paid by Bulgarian standards. As a foreign entrepreneur in Bulgaria (or any other EU country) you will have to abide by the rules that apply there. Employee has a permanent job, nice material under his ass and a good contract. Compared to Dutch colleagues with the same work, the wage is a lot lower. I don't see what the Dutch entrepreneur is doing wrong with his Bulgarian branch. From an agricultural point of view, however, the cost prices do not really differ. 1 Km transport costs by road. at least 1,30 euros per km. Add that to your lower production price and before your product is in Utrecht or Paris, the price is comparable.
Requirements for the production method (residue and animal welfare) are a completely different story.
EU... fine, I'm really in favor of it, but beware of too much!! is my humble opinion.
Greeting..

Edwin 14 December 2019

Complaints are made about the many rules. Rules exist in all sectors and the rules are almost always the result of advancing insight, abuses or lack of self-regulation in the sector concerned.

According to the FDF, almost everyone is bad, the farmers are the main victims; their fate equals that of the Jews in WW2. Big words... quite a scary man. The self ascribed power has kind of gone to his head.

As far as I'm concerned, the tough action next week can't be hard enough. Then it will soon be over with the understanding of other citizens for the complaints of the farmers, which will again strengthen the government in taking measures to combat nitrogen emissions.
I do hope, however, for a somewhat more consistent approach from those who cause nuisance: it is prohibited to use tractors on the highway ... so a big fine; Blocking the road or other companies is prohibited ... so a big fine. This is how climate salifists are also tackled, a similar approach for agri-salafists would be justified.

Drent 14 December 2019

edwin, rules aren't a big deal but they should be executable, and not change every once in a while. Plenty of examples, this year investing 40 mille because it has to be and next year it is not good enough again and you can invest again in things that do not yield anything extra, only increases the cost price. You clearly have no understanding of how it works in agriculture, otherwise you would react differently. We are no longer in charge of our own companies, we are no longer allowed to determine how much of you can grow a certain crop, etc.

Piet 15 December 2019

The solution to unfeasible standards is whether we live in the Netherlands or we live in Europe, it cannot be that Germany has other standards: THIS IS WRITTEN IN DICTATORY: tip of the iceberg!

HARD FARMING ACTIONS MAKES MUCH MEAN IF YOU HAVE THE TRUTH BEHIND YOU, NO HIGHLY EDUCATED MONKEY MATCHES THIS!

SOLUTION FOR MONKEYS:

Legislate that lobbyists for Europeans have no say whatsoever in Solutions of Governing, Elected Bodies, Dutch government must cease to exist within a real DEMOCRATIC EUROPE without our educational social history memorizing, Teflon EU monkeys but with the return of advisory, expert bodies (which now cut).

Nonsense?

Consequences think tanks lobbyists determine government policy with logical, one-sided submission.

- Ongoing lobby for new land expropriation of farmers due to unfeasible standards.

- Solutions such as the polluter (consumer) paid in case of consumption by exporting countries are omitted:
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!

-We should have chosen whether we live in Europe with standards to be adhered to or whether we live in the Netherlands with standards to be adhered to.

-We should have chosen whether we live in a lobbycracy or Democracy with Referenda.

FARMERS GET CITIZENS BEHIND YOU! THE NETHERLANDS IS OURS.

Jan 15 December 2019

80% of agricultural nitrogen emissions come from dairy farming and indeed more than 80% of the activists are also dairy farmers. Other animal sectors have known for decades what now happens to the dairy farmer, the sector sat on its hands until 2015 and always knew the annual income on 1 January. Only the professionals will be able to switch quickly enough to a new era.

Joris 15 December 2019

Piet does not forget the "everyone a Tesla" (physically impossible..!).

Already A&B stations for free electricity at eating stations for the elite.

Subsidized with our money, thanks to Europe (If history repeats itself and no one speaks, it will avenge itself in an inferno with the possibilities of the blessings of publicly available, available technology, now or tomorrow!).

Our subsidy goes directly abroad:

https://www.businessinsider.nl/occasion-tesla-elektrische-auto-prijs-buitenland-bijtelling-lease/

THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

CITIZENS MUST WAKE UP!

Gillian 15 December 2019

SOLUTION:

Make sure that the ruling fellow men paid by us are not politicians, but Politicians who Divide our money in a Democracy.

(If you can't even suppress a Zwarte Piet discussion, how are you going to keep thousands of farmers under control..?)

Marieke 15 December 2019

Youth unmanageable?

Have you ever had parents who lectured you instead of being subject to mortgages, always absent slaves of insane (municipality..) WOZ values with subsidized childcare?

THAT are the fruits of this cabinet, their solution was cultural refugees who do see perspective, a logic that is also promising for your working (Christian?) youth saving for the game of labor currency banks with countries without equity in a politics that believes in infinite growth from politics: known in nature as cancer.

If you don't look further, you don't deserve better.

arable farmer 15 December 2019

Well, I didn't expect anything else from Drent.

Hans 15 December 2019

Good idea, those oliebollen. The vegan delicacy in this time. Doesn't contain anything that requires animals to be killed. Top

nn 15 December 2019

Where of FDF when in 200 to 206 the wheat was 11 ct per kg.
they were content with cheap food.

Drent 15 December 2019

well arable farmer, not everyone farms on clay where the pressure on weeds is minimal and where you sit on leased land.

howl 16 December 2019

Beautiful England from the Eu within now and 5 years more will follow, watch my words, including the Netherlands hehe finally a start is there.

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