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Agriculture Collective lays 'good foundation' with cabinet

16 December 2019 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 31 comments

A delegation from the Agricultural Collective had a 'good conversation' with Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Agriculture Minister Carola Schouten on Monday about the nitrogen dossier. In front of the microphone of various media, Aalt Dijkhuizen, foreman of the Agricultural Collective, said that 'an agreement is in the making.'

After the nearly three-hour consultation, he said that 'a good basis' had been laid for an agreement on the contribution of agriculture to solving the nitrogen problem. Minister Schouten also indicated that the parties involved 'many elements' have come closer together."

The parties in the Agricultural Collective will now discuss the results of the consultations with their supporters. Dijkhuizen already demanded before the consultation, which was held in the form of breakfast, that the government's own nitrogen plan that the collective has drawn up must be taken seriously. To date, Schouten has hardly adopted proposals from this plan in its decision-making, while the collective demanded that it adopt the plan in its entirety.

Jeroen van Maanen, who was a representative of Farmers Defense Force in the collective present at the meeting, was therefore skeptical about the ultimate value of the conversation. "We have already had several good conversations, but now we also want to see results." 

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Ans 16 December 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/financieel/ artikel/10885048/landbouw-collectief-legt-goede-basis-met-kabinet]Agriculture Collective lays 'good foundation' with cabinet[/url]
Yes. In favor of handing over free ammonia rights to other sectors outside of agriculture. Pig and chicken farmers are going to borrow extra money to be able to achieve a significant reduction. 85% fast transition. All interests people are already talking about lower emissions per animal. You just feel that with the meetings of people who talk behind the scenes with political parties. Agriculture wants to make a significant contribution. Free. Or are we going to ask for money for reduction. Nothing for nothing. The government or the private sector buys every kg of ammonia reduction that we achieve. We can use that money for reduction. Each reduction is intended for other sectors. Why drop off for free.
Gaj 16 December 2019
You can have conversations.
We do not offer any guarantees.
He tries fd. To take the wind out of your sails.
It is a cunning fox.
X
farmer 16 December 2019
Just keep your word and be reliable!!
Gaj van Deb pants 16 December 2019
Who do you mean peasant?
John Lapwing 16 December 2019
Written agreements with the government and the collective, including the signatures to endorse a workable nitrogen policy
farmer 16 December 2019
A word a word a man a man. Resolving this consultation which has taken place, also when Minister Schouten talks with nature organisations. This also includes once a permit has been issued with a NB permit or notification. Be careful though, because I have not yet read whether Minister Schouten has already made amends with the labeling of Israeli wine. That has a great influence on the wisdom she receives from God.
Peter34 16 December 2019
If I understand correctly, this is (exclusively?) about nitrogen. Why does this collective not include as one of the conditions that the Ministry of Economic Affairs should finally take care of the members of the CBL in order to improve price formation? The people from Brabant (I wouldn't just walk with them), have put this on the table. In my opinion, this is right and high time. We've been hearing rumors from politics for some time to improve pricing, but it's getting nowhere.
CBL already beeped at fake news; time for the pin on the nose. Naturally, this means that NL product must be given priority. The German discounters can boast: NL product, just like the Germans do in their own country.
Corey Hoekman 16 December 2019
Happy! we still live in 'a democratic constitutional state' where NOT this 'common sense' of this leader of 'FDF' is in charge.
Even if he tries and pretends.
The verdict will be handed down tomorrow. I'll wait and see: since we have a 'separation of powers' in the Netherlands.
'Politics' must not 'sit in the judge's chair; otherwise neither'.
I close with a newspaper article and I hope that all farmers 'with 'common sense' will read this article.
If this wasn't already the case, it still will be.
In the - 'perhaps 'vain hope' - that this article will open the eyes of the farmers.
I have nothing more to say:

World War II opinion
Article published in Trouw newspaper:
"Does Farmers Defense Force really think farmers are treated like my family in WWII?"

https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/vindt-farmers-defense-force-echt-dat-boeren-zo-worden-behandeld-als-mijn-familie-in-woii~b8936bdc/





World War II opinion
Article published in Trouw newspaper:
"Does Farmers Defense Force really think farmers are treated like my family in WWII?"

https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/vindt-farmers-defense-force-echt-dat-boeren-zo-worden-behandeld-als-mijn-familie-in-woii~b8936bdc/
rule maker 16 December 2019
Dear Corry, that you are so far removed from reality is bad, that you close your eyes to the current situation is bad, but that you also try to prove yourself right through lies really makes no sense.
I believe that as a woman you have often been able to get your way, some women are a star at that, but this nonsense of yours will not be taken seriously by any sane person!
D 16 December 2019
Hey Corry, take a look at the Mesdag Fund, Jaap Hanekamp, ​​Geeske Rotgers, STAF. That would broaden your view enormously!
peta 16 December 2019
Dear Corry, you are being very hypocritical, just like that newspaper that cannot be trusted. If Mrs. Ouwehand tells you that livestock farming is no better than the Holocaust, I will not hear you here. In a member of parliament, of course!
Or when Roos Vonk writes that the stables in our livestock farm are like concentration camps with farmers as camp executioners, I don't hear from you either.
And if the Comm. vd. Queen Wim van der Donk the attack on him as a person, of the farmers, sls experience the situation of 75 years ago in the Netherlands, I read nothing about that either
in faithfulness or from your hand .
Isn't it strange that the farmers are revolting! Once it is enough, a farmer also has human rights and does not have to let everything fall in this country!
janus 16 December 2019
runy
please get back under your rock.
and let FDF solve the problems for you.
At least they'll be better at that than your kind.
Marie 16 December 2019
very stupid and bland to piss off Corry with a cheap comment. FDF was backtracking in court today; cowards. Big mouth, but not fair. You do not want to be represented by FDF.
Drent 16 December 2019
pffff Marie isn't it fair?? RIVM is not fair, the government isn't okay, yes everything is public, says Schouten, why doesn't RIVM release the data and are they so secretive about it that is suspicious, whoever has nothing to hide makes it public. Fdf is not backing down at all, but you just have to be careful what you say these days because it will be used against you right away
rule maker 16 December 2019
What else have Corry and Marie added as nonsense here?
rule maker 16 December 2019
And I think that the FDF represents very well even the farmers who do not agree with it, a lot better than the lto who stated that it spoke on behalf of the sector but only defended the interests of a few
d 16 December 2019
RUTTE CABINET IS JUST LYING & CHEATING
every year they will steal you 10% after 5 years so still 50%
They want to take your ground for their asylum seekers.
Farmers & Construction Workers flatten the entire country.
It is now or never ....
Get rid of the CDA - go those fools in Rutte's loft!
Vote PVV Geert Wilders
Drikus 16 December 2019
The best Marie and Corry can tell them many things and whether that makes sense or nonsense is up to everyone to decide for themselves. And what Mark vd Oever has said is offensive to some and a stupid statement to others . But to measure this broadly and continue to whine about this is also a bit lame. Because then the statements that certain figures have made about farmers must also be widely reported. Because these also relate to the same hurtful case. But it is a stick to beat if you have no further arguments available. Furthermore, no one backs down because there is no one who has told with certainty what will happen on Wednesday. I hope that these will not be a burden and damage to ordinary citizens. Furthermore , I would not mind if they flatten the entire government for a day . Because this is where the broom is urgently needed. There are many neat and hard - working officials , but there are also those who are in a position of power and who use or abuse this position . At the expense of other officials and citizens . And probably not always provide the ministers with information that is needed or where you? by move . So be careful not to blame Schouten for everything. When it comes down to it she has nothing to say . Because if the goat wool socks chamber members have the upper hand you know what your fate is . And Ot and Sien will start farming again and if they are not supported by the rich they will live in a sod hut on the heath in the then restored nature and have to live from the cycle. And the richer ones then go on holiday to planet Mars because there is enough nitrogen space created because Ot and Sien do not have a cow but a goat and the farts and burps of the goat are not as big as those of a cow.
Corey Hoekman 16 December 2019
Happy! we still live in 'a democratic constitutional state' where NOT this 'common sense' of this leader of 'FDF' is in charge.
Even if he tries and pretends.
The verdict will be handed down tomorrow. I'll wait and see: since we have a 'separation of powers' in the Netherlands.
'Politics' must not 'sit in the judge's chair; otherwise neither'.
I close with a newspaper article and I hope that all farmers 'with 'common sense' will read this article.
If this wasn't already the case, it still will be.
In the - 'perhaps 'vain hope' - that this article will open the eyes of the farmers.
I have nothing more to say:

World War II opinion
Article published in Trouw newspaper:
"Does Farmers Defense Force really think farmers are treated like my family in WWII?"

https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/vindt-farmers-defense-force-echt-dat-boeren-zo-worden-behandeld-als-mijn-familie-in-woii~b8936bdc/





World War II opinion
Article published in Trouw newspaper:
"Does Farmers Defense Force really think farmers are treated like my family in WWII?"

https://www.trouw.nl/opinie/vindt-farmers-defense-force-echt-dat-boeren-zo-worden-behandeld-als-mijn-familie-in-woii~b8936bdc/
Skirt 16 December 2019
Marie and Corry can enjoy tea together.
Hans 16 December 2019
Mark vd Oever's statement was certainly not useful given the history.
I don't think he would ever have done it again.
Many opponents of this now use this to organize a divisiveness in the agricultural collective.
He should have phrased it differently, but everyone knows what he meant by this.
Bullying away the small group of farmers that the Netherlands still has with completely nonsensical rules.
I look at this government from a different angle, I can tell you that all of the working Netherlands is fed up with this government policy.
There are far too many parasitic policy makers in our country driving the entire economy into recession.
Farmers, keep your feet up, Schouten is not in charge of that battery of green officials!
? 16 December 2019
You may follow the course of my life, and then say that I am not being chased to death, you are most welcome
rule maker 16 December 2019
Corry, you're repeating yourself, ate too much organic junk?
Jannie 16 December 2019
This year again more particulate matter, CO2 and nitrogen from the agricultural sector. The sector is small, but the NL share in nitrogen is now over two-thirds
peta 17 December 2019
Jannie wrote:
This year again more particulate matter, CO2 and nitrogen from the agricultural sector. The sector is small, but the NL share in nitrogen is now over two-thirds
And Jannie, do you have any more shrew. news?
peter 17 December 2019
I am also a fellow citizen and I can well imagine that farmers feel like old rubbish! In 1940, certain groups of people were first given the "Davids star" on the shops and which nitrogen star does politics and media want to stick us on???
peer 17 December 2019
Jannie the agro sector does not produce CO2 but consumes this stuff, which comes from the exhaust of cars and flows out of you
Arnaud 17 December 2019
petatje wrote:
Jannie wrote:
This year again more particulate matter, CO2 and nitrogen from the agricultural sector. The sector is small, but the NL share in nitrogen is now over two-thirds
And Jannie, do you have any more shrew. news?
Jannie doesn't like facts. the green lie is her ideal

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2019/26/lagere-fosfaatproductie-en-stikstofuitscheiding-in-2018
pete 17 December 2019
Greed, envy, jealousy and abuse of power are the greatest enemies of man.
Politics is all about power, self-interest and very little respect for the opinion of others.
Happy Holidays!
fuck off cabinet 17 December 2019
Way
Jannie 17 December 2019
@Arnaud, you are mixing up years 2018 vs 2019. Or are you confused for a century.. Good night!
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