Apologies FDF, Agriculture Collective wants to continue

Karel 6 February 2020

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Rutte with bailiffs can't be trusted either and have caught all of the Netherlands

willie van gemert 6 February 2020

With a press release, FDF has brought all other parties in the LC back to basics. Agreements only with LC all other parties must respect that and not interfere with it, and especially not the Rabo and LTO (LTO only in LC and not back)

Peter34 6 February 2020

I don't understand what makes LNV so busy. The message (for which apologies have been made) was addressed to the traitors, not to LNV. Why then does LNV demand an apology?
This message does indicate that a large proportion of farmers do not trust the chain 'partners'. LNV could do something about this, but in the first place it is time for these chain 'partners' to do some self-reflection.
In whose interest are we going? If socially acceptable practice is expected from farmers (as, for example, Rabo and RFC clearly do), how are these 'partners' going to compensate the farmers for this?
After all, Rabo and RFC are cooperatives.... FROM, FOR. and BY members. Or are they first of all companies whose directors/managers proclaim CSR, but do not (will) make any sacrifices themselves, yes personally. This does not win confidence and it is easy to talk to the minister; as an aid to the state.
Yes LNV chooses what to talk to, but the invited parties must consult themselves. This also applies to LTO, of which I do not understand that the minister would discuss the matter with them separately.

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Leo 6 February 2020

You don't understand one thing, FDF and the collective want something from Rutte and Schouten, not the other way around. They are not in a position to make demands or gossip. Anyway, nothing new, farmers always kick the wrong person in the crotch, something with farming smarts.

Hans 6 February 2020

I also think it is fine to apologize to Schouten and Rutte for the progress of the process.
By the way..........., I can also remember an incident from a while back about the accusations made by Schouten against the farmers, according to her, this concerned a large-scale calf fraud.
The farmers were dismissed as criminals by her, which later turned out to be a complete misconception!
Did Carola apologize to the sector for this?
maybe I missed this..........................................

Grunninger 6 February 2020

LTO is of no use to the farmers and rightly so that some parties are called farmers traitors and just throw money to buy them out what nonsense to combat nitrogen you can now see that it is in The Hague

peter34 6 February 2020

@Leo. Who has a problem with nitrogen? The farmers? Because of public opinion, the media, nature experts, the judge and who else, LNV has a problem with nitrogen. And because it is assumed that agriculture can make the largest contribution to the reduction (industry and transport do not have to work, do they?), LNV needs the farmers. Not the other way around. You don't think the state wants to antagonize the peasants, do you?

Leo 6 February 2020

@peter why apologies????

Peter34 6 February 2020

@Leo. As I wrote before, it shouldn't have. FDF addressed the 'partners' chain, not LNV.
LNV's action (refusal to sit down until an apology was issued) was out of reach, unless LNV is also the spokesperson for the 'partners' chain, for example because LNV sees them as a useful tool for government policy. That's not even such a strange thought, which I also suggested before.
It is probable that FDF provided apologies. because she didn't want to mess with the LC. Would Schouten want FDF to sit at the table or not, I wonder. She apparently determines who is there and whether that is healthy ..... See also the comment about this from the WWF.

Jan 6 February 2020

We can talk when bridge man she decides who she will talk to
My conclusion The Netherlands is going to buy out livestock farmers our tax money who is the victim again the workers
The Netherlands is being put in tang and being squeezed
Where has our democratic Netherlands gone????

Harm 6 February 2020

Farmers immediately have a lot of money but no life.

Who wants to have a new beginning kicked down the throat when you've built this country generation after generation?

for a limited age group this is a party, for farmers the hell of rutte

bye 6 February 2020

pay money-grabbing taxes and leave the sinking ship and build a new life in a normal country.

Skirt 7 February 2020

@Leo, are you for or against external netting?

Leo 7 February 2020

In my opinion, the enthusiasm among livestock farmers for remediation is enormous, finally light at the end of the tunnel! First best arrangement for double registration compared to expectations. Solid companies continue, weak companies and old ones are falling away. It has always been that way, also at the baker, butcher, painter, transporter, trade, hotel, cafe, snack bar and so on. Well no bullshit about the unworkable rules only in agriculture, that also applies to all sectors.

Fdf's firm language is fine, Schouten's drawing a line is her right and also logical, she can just do that. Should have thought about fdf beforehand, now apologies is a sign of weakness. Their role as it already was has been played out.

Leo 7 February 2020

@kjol das ist nicht ihm Frage, we proceed based on what is decided. Become a bit Cruijffiaans, you will only see it when you realize it and every advantage has its disadvantage.

until here and no further 7 February 2020

What was the benefit to the Jews in 40-45 Leo?

Leo 7 February 2020

Excuse me? Because of this kind of talk, d66 GroenLinks and so on will emerge as the big winner in the nitrogen debate. Let your skull light up, I think it's high time

Skirt 7 February 2020

@Leo, you're dodging my question.
Are you for or against external netting?

Jp lapwing 7 February 2020

In 1965 there were still 400000 agricultural companies in 2020 40000 companies and no successors available the ned government and the eu27 expertly killed this sector, that is why fdf is indispensable

Leo 7 February 2020

@kjol, if you're netted internally, it might give you some air. Must have a revenue model, so why not. I would say take chances. Is it already possible for agricultural companies?

Bouke Alkema 7 February 2020

40% of CLOTHING PURCHASES THROUGH THE WEBSHOP ARE RETURNS.
FEATHER OFFER ALL CLOTHING PURCHASES THROUGH THE WEBSHOP.
THEN THE NITROGEN PROBLEM IS SOLVED FOR THE
FARMERS AND THE CONTRACTORS CAN BUILD HOUSES AGAIN.
(and we can drive 130 again)

until here and no further 7 February 2020

Excuse me Leo, you're dodging my question, what was the benefit?

Skirt 7 February 2020

@Leo, no that is not possible because the liveability of the countryside would then be affected??! According to the politicians etc.
I just thought that farmers make the countryside uninhabitable if I may understand it that way.

pietje1 10 February 2020

Do not understand that FDF has apologized for the betrayal.
Take a look at blue tiger studio.nl about the proven betrayal of LTO

pietje1 10 February 2020

Would be ashamed to still be a member of the corrupt LTO gang!

area 10 February 2020

it's quite what they say at blue tiger. but yes smoke is.

Joop 10 February 2020

Also had to deal with Tennet and LTO.
It is clear to me which cap this club works with.
Immediately canceled membership.

greeting 10 February 2020

As long as the nitrogen quantity is handed in. The countryside is barren and polluted. At least 100 trees should be planted on every farm, to start with. Also pay yourself

pete1 11 February 2020

Dear Greeth, buy farmland yourself and plant trees on it instead of making your boss about other people's property

??? !!! 11 February 2020

greet wrote:

As long as the nitrogen quantity is handed in. The countryside is barren and polluted. At least 100 trees should be planted on every farm, to start with. Also pay yourself

If, according to the expert, at least 100 trees should be planted per yard, how many trees per house in the village?
How many trees per terraced house in city?
How many trees per apartment?

The city is barren and polluted!

Want to teach the farmer a lesson?

GO HUNGER STRIKE! no farmer benefits from that. TO PERSEVERE!!!

greeting 11 February 2020

Your answer shows that diversity and nature are foreign to you.
Why not, 100 trees per housing unit, this is 800 million trees. I plant 100 trees a year, already done 27 times. Without pulling support. And you?

neighbour 11 February 2020

Greeth, we farmers didn't ask for subsidies in the 80s. If Macsharry hadn't been introduced then, the food parcels would have been unaffordable now.

greeting 12 February 2020

It would be good if people started growing their own vegetables again. it's not that hard. That still threatens.

shoemakers 1 12 February 2020

Dear greeth, my ex girlfriend, who is quite left-handed, has started living on her own from this year, which she was not allowed to do before, she has now dumped 20 cm of compost on her vegetable garden, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT, I have in the In the past, she had worked between civil servants, who stated that the farmers were doing everything wrong, and immediately told them that their leeks were growing quite well, just dump the manure with the wheelbarrow. We have to deal with residues everywhere, I don't think these people have ever heard of nitrate and such, but stay in your own world, as long as you don't bother us with your nonsense, you don't know what you are talking about.

shoemakers 1 12 February 2020

it turns out again and again, there is no limit to the stupidity of people, only the top of the cleverness is apparently always with the farmers, not studied too much

Marieke 12 February 2020

I really don't understand how buying out farmers can serve the economy, less smaller farmers weaken the network; make mega farmers dependent on subsidies, enslaved by lobby products that we absorb into our bodies, better than no glyphosate in your body, how hard can the truth be EMPEROR WITHOUT CLOTHES!

Farmers are the beginning of many sectors that depend on them, the more farmers the more work, the more product handling, each farmer is a thread of our economic network, fewer threads, weaker network.

This is a @toddler to explain

our politicians don't understand (don't even have a clue and start about Zwarte Piet and Lelystad: totally feeble-minded!).

Behind the farming sector are so many companies that depend on farmers, all of them pay millions in taxes: suppliers, product processing.

Should we become dependent on a few mega farmers or sheep abroad? (once our pride and glory: the primary sector)

An unprecedented cultural genocide is taking place, all signals are on red, stabbings are the norm, nonsense management subsidy pallet burning, cars with overloaded environmentally friendly engines (how retarded can you be), Christianity disappears
how is this possible, how is this possible...

warriors are turning in their graves (and our emperor grins)

Ps 14 February 2020

Fdf clearly shows Hear and see in which places where the problem pinches and shows, sooner or hopefully not too late, this will already be performed and rewarded.

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