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Action against stopping interest on Rabobank certificate

8 April 2020 - Wouter Baan - 30 comments

Due to the corona crisis, the interest payment on Rabobank Certificates has been discontinued, a product that many (discontinued) farmers also own. Investor platform IEX believes, however, that Rabobank has misinterpreted the appeal of the European Central Bank (ECB) and has therefore launched an action. 

At the end of March, Rabobank took the decision not to pay any interest of 1% on the certificates issued until at least 6,5 October. This decision was taken after an appeal from the ECB and the Nederlansche Bank, which believe that in this time of crisis, banks should better lend this money in order to keep the economy going. ING and ABN Amro also decided not to pay a dividend for the time being.

Interest is not a dividend
The shoe pinches on this point, because the ECB asked banks in Europe not to pay dividends. According to IEX, this does not relate to the interest payment on depositary receipts that Rabobank has outstanding, because according to the letter of the law this is not a dividend. 

The investor platform has calculated that the damage for holders of these member certificates amounts to € 1,2 billion. There is therefore a lot of misunderstanding among the depositary receipt holders. IEX has launched an action to protest the bank's decision. In the meantime, more than 3.500 certificate holders have already registered with the investor platform reported.

Reaction Rabobank
When asked, Rabobank says that they do not recognize themselves in the criticism of IEX. The bank is of the opinion that the temporary suspension of the interest payment to the depository receipt holders complies with the ECB's recommendation. 

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Wouter Baan is editor-in-chief of Boerenbusiness. He also focuses on dairy, pig and meat markets. He also follows (business) developments within agribusiness and interviews CEOs and policymakers.
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30 comments
durk 8 April 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/financieel/ artikel/10886613/actie-tegen-stopdichten-rente-op-rabobank-certificate]Action against stopping interest on Rabobank certificate [/url]
The predecessor of this RC were Rabo member certificates, owned by members and staff of this bank because they had confidence in their cooperative.
These Rabo member certificates were later converted into RC and went on the stock exchange, the original investors often stayed put.

The big question remains whether the external investors of 'Equity' in Rabobank will not receive their interest in the coming 9 months, or should only the private investors in RC have to pass their interest?

With this move by the Central Board, the incumbent members and staff have considerably lost confidence in THEIR BANK.
JJW de Waardt 8 April 2020
Rabo certificates were offered to rabo account holders about 6 years ago with the caveat that no more than 20% of the assets should be invested in them. We have these certificates in the portfolio because of the 6,5%. The price drop, as well as the uncertainty about possible interest rates, is a setback, all the more so as interest has been settled in the transactions.
W. van den Burg 8 April 2020
I also have some of these certificates so I think it's a good action.
J.jansen 8 April 2020
My pension contribution is gone from one day to the next. Is the RABO sometimes on the path of thieves? †
PF van Bruggen 8 April 2020
Why is Rabobank, just as many landlords have agreed with the tenants that the rent payment of the rent will be postponed until their business can open again, the payment obligation is not POSTPONED until October 1, 2020? After all, the interest rate is 6,5% on an annual basis. I am in favor of ALL CEOs, supervisory directors and managers of the RABOBANK until October 1, 2020 receive NO salary and/or allowances and/or bonuses, because they have no regard for the members and other account holders of their cooperative bank.
Nicholas Veldhuizen 8 April 2020
How come in 2021 if the bank has to apply the Basel rule. Can they no longer count it as part of their equity
Peter34 8 April 2020
@PF van Bruggen. The members? Members of which?
This cooperative once had the motto "from the members, for the members, by the members". In which drawer did that motto disappear? Because I don't notice it anymore. Neither do the CEOs, I think. That is much easier for them. The management of a bank-listed bank still has to be held accountable somewhere. Does the CEO etc. of the Rabobank have a boss somewhere besides the Dutch Central Bank?
You were known before. It is no longer, partly due to new faces all the time. The members have another function: to maintain the cooperative status. On such a ground, a new cooperative would not receive a foundation permit.
G. Rutten 8 April 2020
First, the "members" were advised to dispose of part of the certificates in order to spread the risk. They "bought" these themselves !!. There were consultants who were ashamed of this "forced" move. And now they are doing it like this !!. That request was convenient !!!. But that's not how you treat your members !!!.
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onion 8 April 2020
it has always been warned that it is a deeply subordinated loan so everyone should have known but it is still mourning on our roof
??? !!! 8 April 2020
...and yet another reason never to grant that bank one cent of trade again.
Z. Hourly plums 8 April 2020
Would you rather miss a few times than never receive interest again? The current situation is incalculable and can hit our financial system hard. No one can say exactly what impact this will have.

Receive your interest for years with your subordinated bond, be careful. Soon you will lose everything ;-).
John Schenk 8 April 2020
Every three months I receive a COUPON RATE credit and no Dividend. Bonuses Dividends are quite another.
Until 2011 was Dividend Then Interest, It's cash for Rabobank.
Richard Kamphuis 9 April 2020
I assume that no interest is paid on bonds anymore. If Rabobank stretches the concept of dividend in such a way to keep liquidity in cash, then surely it will also pass the coupon rate on bonds!?
volkers 9 April 2020
Part of my pension comes from these certificates, according to the bank it could be withheld. Legally then. They referred me to the UWV. Is that right?
coenen 9 April 2020
You never walk alone. Rabo's advertising slogan.
This one is now called, You walk alone and find it out,
What a deeply sad and careless decision to stop interest rates.
It is not a dividend payment, so the current Corona crises are unjustly abused to take this measure.
In addition, it is stated that Rabobank will then examine what the new interest rate will be.
We are talking about the current interest rate, less or even nil!!!
I hope that journalism will draw attention to this misleading and mismanagement.
I am going to bring this fact to the attention of the TV program KASSA.

CJBernouw 9 April 2020
Rabobank has misinterpreted the call of the European Central Bank (ECB)!
Rabo member certificates the interest is not a dividend !!
David 10 April 2020
Dear,

Maybe an idea that the lost interest is converted into extra Rabo member certificates? The bank now has a little more space and the certificate holders are compensated afterwards by means of the extra certificates.
draft house 10 April 2020
6,50% was fixed money, all at once it is 0,00% October 1, 2020 they make a decision about the Certificates that can be nil, lower or higher than before (now 0,00%).
Confidence in the RABO is gone (I'm thinking of the usury era again)
These were subordinated loans after all, they will come a little later OK I can understand at this time, but it has to come….
Kees 10 April 2020
Subordinated means last turn in bankruptcy, or will that still not express much confidence for the future
Ger Duyn 10 April 2020
It used to be called Boerenleenbank. The bench for the people. The people are now bankers, they are pickpockets. In 2019, Rabobank made a net profit of 2,2 billion euros. That's over 55 million a day?? And now also stealing our coupon rate with the excuse of the ECB's approval, this shows that the bank only thinks of itself. Any other bank then?.....
John Schenk 10 April 2020
Coenen wants to draw attention to this Kassa. Would say take Radar with you right away .. Double stitched is better right ..
It is strange that Rabobank does not recognize itself in Dividend and Interest Decrease. Is clear anyway.
Drikus 11 April 2020
Doesn't knock a bag of . As long as they simply charge the help-seeking entrepreneurs a large closing commission, this should not be allowed. Love has to come from both sides . One surrenders to help the other . But the person who needs to be helped just pay full price. And assume they don't lend to someone they don't think they can return. So the certificate holders who have lent their money to the bank as if they are paying for that risk, which in my opinion is not that great. And they bear the risk of losing their money if the bank gets into trouble. The RABO bank does not act very socially here. Let people in need pay full price and also take money away from others to increase the cash under the guise of that we are allowed. The catch will be that the interest rate on certificates is too high. And assume that it will go down in the future . Arguing we don't have to pay out if we get into trouble, so if we pay the high interest rate we get into trouble, so you have the choice of either lower interest rate or risk losing everything, who is going to or can control this. And member or no member who is actually the real owner of the bank . There is no one who can give me an answer to that . Because not the members. Because I became a member without investing a cent and have never heard of anyone getting exit money. So we don't all get fooled with all-hands stories. And now with interest again. Because it is not a dividend or profit distribution. I also wonder whether there are still real cooperatives . Have they not degenerated into large commercial companies that want to get money cheaply without risk ? And loyal member who is a customer if he or she is not careful is being milked.
shoemakers1 12 April 2020
It is self-evident that at some banks, even in the event of an interim interest rate review, an initial commission has to be paid again, RABO is one of them.
Ronald 12 April 2020
I worked for Rabo as a dsi senior investment advisor for many years and put this investment product away for many clients. Rabobank has never made a loss in its existence. 6,5% interest was a welcome addition to their pension for many clients. Now that the opportunity arises, Wiebel Draijer will reverse this right away. Great opportunity, of course, now that there is free money, 0,01% on the savings account, but 10% in case of red on your account. Because the certificates are subordinated, this has a positive effect on TIER now that no interest is paid anymore, the profitability also increases significantly. Rabo was once cooperative, but nowadays nothing better than ing or abnamro.
They are bag fillers.
Ronald 12 April 2020
I worked for Rabo as a dsi senior investment advisor for many years and put this investment product away for many clients. Rabobank has never made a loss in its existence. 6,5% interest was a welcome addition to their pension for many clients. Now that the opportunity arises, Wiebel Draijer will reverse this right away. Great opportunity, of course, now that there is free money, 0,01% on the savings account, but 10% in case of red on your account. Because the certificates are subordinated, this has a positive effect on TIER now that no interest is paid anymore, the profitability also increases significantly. Rabo was once cooperative, but nowadays nothing better than ing or abnamro.
They are bag fillers.
norah 15 April 2020
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Henk 18 April 2020
Apart from the fact that it is not a dividend, this is an easy way to help customers........ You take the money away from one customer and thereby help another. Does not cost you as a bank; just move some money back and forth. Yes, that way I can help someone too.
hw.rademaker 29 April 2020
the rat-turner has taken some risks,
Dividend and interest differ in name and also in execution.
rabo once mentioned by cook cleans up all farmers.
there is arrogance of power here
case law, you first look at case law.
that must be the criteria for other jurisdictions.
A judge will have to pull out a lot of things
to bring interest and dividend under the same denominator
will also have tax implications.
but eu advice can also have eu consequences.
then the judiciary will be put out of action


Johan 3 May 2020
Years ago the investment advisor Rabobank recommended member certificates as a welcome addition to pension income. Now that I am retired and taking advantage of this and having been a member of a co-operative bank for over 60 years that deprive their own members of their pension savings for years now in this way, disgrace, disgrace of a co-operative bank that has more than 55 million every day million in profit.
Frans 4 May 2020
Rabobank has completely misinterpreted the call of the European Central Bank (ECB)!
Rabo member certificates the interest is not a dividend !!
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