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23 November 2023 - Jesse Torringa - 53 comments

It was already coming given the meager seed potato yield this year, but seed potato varieties intended for chip potato cultivation are sold in a considerably higher size range than in other years. This is desperately needed to meet the demand from the industry.

Seed potato cooperative Agrico reported this to its growers last week. She asks growers to keep varieties intended for the chip industry such as Fontane, Markies and Première with a 60/70 size selection this season. For Agria this is size 60/65. According to Jan van Hoogen, director of Agrico, there would otherwise be a major shortage. "It will have to be done, otherwise we will have far too little seed potatoes to meet the demand from the processing industries. The acreage has shrunk, the tons are fewer due to the special growing season and the batches are also coarser."

The fewer tons are due to the lower tuber formation this year. In addition, a low setting also ensures faster growth in size. The moment of haulm killing was therefore more difficult and generally led to coarser batches. By the way, the price of potatoes for consumption in July was also very different (€50+) and that will undoubtedly have influenced the crop being left a little longer. Moreover, around the time of haulm killing, growers were already informed that the harvesting advice for some industrial varieties had been adjusted to size 60.

It is important to mention that a significantly higher price must be achieved for seed potatoes of industrial varieties above the recommended size than the consumer price that applies at the same time.

The seed potato harvest has not yet been fully completed in the Netherlands due to the wet weather, and this is also the case at Agrico. This concerns varieties from the late segment, such as Markies. According to Van Hoogen, everything is a bit later this year and therefore inventory takes longer. "First the potato planting and then the harvest. We now have a reasonable overview of the stocks, but the box inspection, for example, is not yet ready. We are now making an inventory and then we will discuss how much we have to sell." 

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Jesse Torringa

Jesse is an editor at Boerenbusiness and focuses in particular on the arable farming sector, including grain and onions. He also closely follows the fertilizer market. In addition, Jesse works on an arable farm in Groningen with seed potatoes as the main branch.

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southwest 23 November 2023
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url = https: // www.boerenbusiness.nl/arable farming/potatoes/article/10906899/seed potato-industrial varieties-delivered-to-size-70]Seed potato industrial varieties supplied up to size 70[/url]
Well,
Then they will also have to pay well for industrial seed potato cultivation. The growers have not forgotten the poor payment prices of, for example, the Fontane variety last year. The average payment price of the consumption potato pool above the payment price of the seed potato pool. How do you achieve that as a trading house?
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quite coarse 23 November 2023
southwest wrote:
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url = https: // www.boerenbusiness.nl/arable farming/potatoes/article/10906899/seed potato-industrial varieties-delivered-to-size-70]Seed potato industrial varieties supplied up to size 70[/url]
Well,
Then they will also have to pay well for industrial seed potato cultivation. The growers have not forgotten the poor payment prices of, for example, the Fontane variety last year. The average payment price of the consumption potato pool above the payment price of the seed potato pool. How do you achieve that as a trading house?
Wouldn't the chip factories have long-term contracts for purchasing potters at a low price?
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January 23 November 2023
ja
because chip barons are the boss
How can you hand over a good variety to the chip industry? As a trading company, you can do that too
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ivo 23 November 2023
Dear, quite rude, you are of course completely right. Last summer they had already traded 140000 tons of that variety well before the construction holiday; This therefore amounts to 20 tons 35/50 per ha. A month after the construction holiday, they came with a grower's letter that everything was going to be fine and the growers should not listen too much to all those TALKING PRICES because by then they had already made a big mistake. Now that we have actually had two expensive potato years, the seed potato growers are missing out twice. I also hope that the person concerned has indexed their own wages. Just ridiculous!!!! Koekebakkers is putting it mildly here.
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Southwest 24 November 2023
It is simply a shame that as a trading company you control the breeding part, after all they have the good varieties, but there is simply no commercial instinct to bring value to them in the right way. When you see what the large free growers can achieve on the free market, why can't a trading house succeed? A trading house in particular should be able to set the market, because they control such a large part of the volume.
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Drent 24 November 2023
Southwest wrote:
It is simply a shame that as a trading company you control the breeding part, after all they have the good varieties, but there is simply no commercial instinct to bring value to them in the right way. When you see what the large free growers can achieve on the free market, why can't a trading house succeed? A trading house in particular should be able to set the market, because they control such a large part of the volume.
because the trading houses' margins are much too high, why should the price be double what the grower gets?
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January 24 November 2023
because a lot of people work there
well, they drive around a lot, drink a lot of coffee with growers, sometimes with 2 people in the car

grow freely, buy agria or another free chip variety on time and then the chip farmer will come and beg you to deliver

I don't understand why more farmers aren't commercial, don't they learn that at school??

or do they just want to work and we harvest it just like beets, give it to the buyer and wait to see what you get
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frog 24 November 2023
jan wrote:
because a lot of people work there
well, they drive around a lot, drink a lot of coffee with growers, sometimes with 2 people in the car

grow freely, buy agria or another free chip variety on time and then the chip farmer will come and beg you to deliver

I don't understand why more farmers aren't commercial, don't they learn that at school??

or do they just want to work and we harvest it just like beets, give it to the buyer and wait to see what you get
This works out quite well with beets!
juun 24 November 2023
jan wrote:
because a lot of people work there
well, they drive around a lot, drink a lot of coffee with growers, sometimes with 2 people in the car

grow freely, buy agria or another free chip variety on time and then the chip farmer will come and beg you to deliver

I don't understand why more farmers aren't commercial, don't they learn that at school??

or do they just want to work and we harvest it just like beets, give it to the buyer and wait to see what you get
Well, inflation means staff want more money, everything is more expensive and the farmer pays for it. although a number of trading houses are not in the market at all.
loom 24 November 2023
yes what is the beet price then???
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onion 24 November 2023
in the Golden Age, 125 guilders per tonne should now be 125 euros, I'm afraid that won't be the case, anything below 100 euros is actually too little
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Noord 24 November 2023
plantation wrote:
in the Golden Age, 125 guilders per tonne should now be 125 euros, I'm afraid that won't be the case, anything below 100 euros is actually too little
Otherwise, I'm quite satisfied with €100 per tonne. Many crops cannot match that. Then we're not even talking about harvest risk or financial misery. Money guaranteed in the bank account after delivery
juun 24 November 2023
plantation wrote:
in the Golden Age, 125 guilders per tonne should now be 125 euros, I'm afraid that won't be the case, anything below 100 euros is actually too little
yes and then you had half a return. Now you often reach 100 tons. I am satisfied with everything above last year's price.
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onion 24 November 2023
in the Golden Age you worked for 25 guilders per hour, now at least 30 euros, harvesting much more expensive cultivation, ditto land price from 40.000 guilders to more than 100.000 euros, so don't be satisfied too quickly
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crow 24 November 2023
Consider a new machine, twice as expensive in 2 years.
Cold 24 November 2023
Look at beet harvesting. Also touches 500 euros. 20 years ago it was 500 guilders with 70 tons
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frog 24 November 2023
What a shame here, 120 tons of beets for, say, 90 euros, almost 11.000 per hectare, well I certainly give my contractor who has to do a lot of dredging this year a share of that, I sincerely wish him that 500 euros.
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grows 24 November 2023
fine right. I hope that the processors will charge 85 euros for the seed potatoes.

have been doing atr runs best for years. always good quality. no hassle with delivering in the spring and I don't have to sign a contract anywhere, so you can grow freely.

anyone can do it.
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The Frisian 24 November 2023
The company in joure gives an expected price of 45 cents to its seed potato growers. Most had thought at least 50.
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January 24 November 2023
Cold wrote:
Look at beet harvesting. Also touches 500 euros. 20 years ago it was 500 guilders with 70 tons
WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR A BEER THEN??

all the whining about rates, if there was no contractor what then?

then do it all yourself
juun 24 November 2023
DeFries wrote:
The company in joure gives an expected price of 45 cents to its seed potato growers. Most had thought at least 50.
except the ones in the free market. they already knew what they were doing and are doing.
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not 24 November 2023
Frog must have 17% sugar?
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frog 24 November 2023
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
juun 24 November 2023
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
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frog 24 November 2023
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
juun 24 November 2023
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
delicious, delicious. You know everything about fries potatoes. then you can probably calculate well.
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frog 24 November 2023
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
delicious, delicious. You know everything about fries potatoes. then you can probably calculate well.
That calculation is absolutely correct, you didn't take my high winability score into account.
And I'm currently biting into a bitterbal.
juun 24 November 2023
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
delicious, delicious. You know everything about fries potatoes. then you can probably calculate well.
That calculation is absolutely correct, you didn't take my high winability score into account.
And I'm currently biting into a bitterbal.
just like Rutte, right? yes, that win counts nicely :)
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frog 24 November 2023
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
delicious, delicious. You know everything about fries potatoes. then you can probably calculate well.
That calculation is absolutely correct, you didn't take my high winability score into account.
And I'm currently biting into a bitterbal.
just like Rutte, right? yes, that win counts nicely :)
What does Rutte have to do with this, we are talking about this year's beet price and not last year's?
juun 24 November 2023
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
juun wrote:
frog wrote:
not wrote:
Frog must have 17% sugar?
No frog has 15,7% sugar and with a beet price of 96 euros it comes to 90 euros.
that is not true. it is 9% of the price per percent content.
Well, eternal know-it-all, what do I end up with?
delicious, delicious. You know everything about fries potatoes. then you can probably calculate well.
That calculation is absolutely correct, you didn't take my high winability score into account.
And I'm currently biting into a bitterbal.
just like Rutte, right? yes, that win counts nicely :)
What does Rutte have to do with this, we are talking about this year's beet price and not last year's?
he also talked about bitterballen to avoid the outcome of the elections. but didn't get it anyway.
biet 24 November 2023
I have heard that the 17% is no longer used as a guideline but that they will work with 16.
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ivo 30 November 2023
Agria A 35/50 will probably go towards €1,00
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gerard 30 November 2023
just look out for what isn't there
Much less seed potatoes were plumbed than in other years
juun 30 November 2023
gerard wrote:
just look out for what isn't there
Much less seed potatoes were plumbed than in other years
exports are just ordinary. However, a lot has also been lowered and spunta e and everything above it will appear. French fries varieties are popular anyway.
loom 30 November 2023
There is too little seed potato every year, so you can push up the price for nothing.
and just before the planting season there is a surplus...
know the game
CM 30 November 2023
I'm curious whether the demand is that great to grow now that the harvest is going like this.
juun 30 November 2023
grower wrote:
There is too little seed potato every year, so you can push up the price for nothing.
and just before the planting season there is a surplus...
know the game
Well, I don't know where you do business. but the yield has not been as poor as this year for years. and 30% reduced, so that clears up nicely. Farmers have grown them larger, so they need more tons themselves. the normal seed potato sizes are very tight anyway. There are plenty of them that have more than 30 to 50% of the excess size, so that's making good progress.
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southwest 30 November 2023
Trading houses will cut up to 70 mm. Only they don't yet realize that there is a lot of hollow in the large sizes
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Arie poor branch. 30 November 2023
You estimate the trading houses to be very low in the southwest.
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frog 30 November 2023
Have you ever planted 70 mm cuts with a cup planter?
juun 1 December 2023
I also wonder who wants and can build that 60 70 :) with a string bed it would be possible.
vendt 1 December 2023
You should watch this video, this is how it works at huge agricultural companies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhAMmSbUPXI&t=889s
CM 1 December 2023
There is hardly any consumer grower with a string bed planter, so that is a thing.
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gerard 1 December 2023
innovator has been cut for many years and can be easily planted with a cup machine
I don't think you are allowed to cut seed potatoes for seed potato purposes
This is allowed for cons cultivation
Some breeds lend themselves better to it, some breeds do not
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Klaas Guy 1 December 2023
comparable amount of tons as in 2018, only now they are much coarser.

They are doing well in Joure with an expected price of 45ct.
nicely done.
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January 1 December 2023
expected
but do you know all the rules of the game?

if you get 45 for spunta at hzpc and 55 in the free trade, you are there for nothing
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beeper 3 December 2023
If there is already panic in advance about not enough seed potatoes, you can pick up bins for free in April 2024
There will be so much cutting that will cause quality problems during the growing season.
And in April May it turns out that r is even more than expected!
CM 3 December 2023
peeper wrote:
If there is already panic in advance about not enough seed potatoes, you can pick up bins for free in April 2024
There will be so much cutting that will cause quality problems during the growing season.
And in April May it turns out that r is even more than expected!
Yes, cutting will give you unpleasant surprises because only a few varieties are known to be cutable.
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southwest 3 December 2023
jan wrote:
expected
but do you know all the rules of the game?

if you get 45 for spunta at hzpc and 55 in the free trade, you are there for nothing
In free trade 55 ct??
That really is the bottom of the market.
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Klaas Guy 5 December 2023
jan wrote:
expected
but do you know all the rules of the game?

if you get 45 for spunta at hzpc and 55 in the free trade, you are there for nothing
Since clorona everything there has been for nothing.

Curious how the trading companies will get their acreage together.
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southwest 5 December 2023
Klaas Kerel wrote:
jan wrote:
expected
but do you know all the rules of the game?

if you get 45 for spunta at hzpc and 55 in the free trade, you are there for nothing
Since clorona everything there has been for nothing.

Curious how the trading companies will get their acreage together.
Trading houses were barely able to fill their acreage last year. This year there will be a significant reduction in favor of free seed potato cultivation or French fry cultivation. The sales force of the (large) trading houses is not commercially oriented and that cannot be changed. Then they have to replace people. Just like with large vegetable or flower exporters, it is the sellers who have to make the difference. In addition, its overhead costs are far too high. But who is going to change that? Not the management itself, because they are also in the same mode.
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southwest 5 December 2023
Klaas Kerel wrote:
jan wrote:
expected
but do you know all the rules of the game?

if you get 45 for spunta at hzpc and 55 in the free trade, you are there for nothing
Since clorona everything there has been for nothing.

Curious how the trading companies will get their acreage together.
Trading houses were barely able to fill their acreage last year. This year there will be a significant reduction in favor of free seed potato cultivation or French fry cultivation. The sales force of the (large) trading houses is not commercially oriented and that cannot be changed. Then they have to replace people. Just like with large vegetable or flower exporters, it is the sellers who have to make the difference. In addition, its overhead costs are far too high. But who is going to change that? Not the management itself, because they are also in the same mode.
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Klaas Guy 12 December 2023
Agria A 35/55 90 ct.

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