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Schouten sticks to the ban on neonicotinoids

June 6, 2019 - Anne Jan Doorn - 45 comments

Sugar beet farming could put off a return of beet seed coated with neonicotinoids. Minister Carola Schouten (Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality) will not make an exception to the European ban for the application. It also wants prescription crop protection and the authorization of products must be examined more closely.

Minister Schouten announced the above on Thursday evening 6 June in a general consultation on plant protection products. The minister emphasizes that the discussion about neonicotinoids has been going on for years and that the sector has had enough time to prepare for a ban. Although she realizes that the effect of the ban on beet growers is significant, the minister sees no reason to deviate from her decision.

Minister Schouten will come up with a reaction to the book '#back in time' from Boer Conscious and an Rapport of the Agri Facts Foundation. "Exceptions to the European ban are only temporary. The unfair playing field experienced with countries such as Belgium is therefore only temporary. It makes more sense to look at alternatives," said the minister. She also states that not all kinds of exceptions should be made to a European ban.

Schouten therefore chooses to adhere to the advice of the Board for the Authorization of Plant Protection Products and Biocides (Ctgb) and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA). Schouten received many questions about the fact that the substances that are currently being used are considered to be more harmful. "These drugs are officially authorized and can therefore be used," she replied. It does, however, support the search for alternatives.

Motion of distrust
Esther Ouwehand (Party for the Animals) said during the consultation that she will submit a motion of no confidence against the minister next week. She claims that Minister Schouten's predecessors withheld information. Ouwehand then refers to the bee guideline, in which she believes that the Netherlands has delayed its introduction. She asked Schouten questions about this, but they were only answered when 'Follow the Money' an article published on the subject.

The announcement makes Minister Schouten visible, but the other MPs also believe that announcing a motion of no confidence before the Whitsun weekend is not neat. It was also not the only moment when the debate got heated. Tjeerd de Groot (D66) was very dissatisfied with the fact that the approach to the use of glyphosate is still in the discussions stage. He therefore submitted a motion to take stronger measures.

Future vision well received
In the general consultation it also appeared that the reactions to the 'Future vision crop protection 2030' van Schouten are generally positive. "I think we all believe that the environmental pressure from crop protection products should be reduced. The main difference between them is the way in which they are used," said Roelof Bisschop (SGP). He believes that the minister's ambition is commendable, but that alternatives must be ready. "We have to recognize that it takes time to achieve the goals."

The CDA and the VVD agreed with the comments, but Maurits von Martels (CDA) and Helma Lodders (VVD) did argue that the advice of the EFSA and the Ctgb should be independent and respected, instead of the fact that politicians increasingly decide on crop protection.

Practical implementation is waiting
Where the CDA, the VVD and the SGP believe that it must be economically feasible to achieve these goals, the Labor Party (PvdA), the Party of the Animals (PvdD) and ChristenUnie are more sceptical. They are afraid that these goals will leave something to be desired in practical implementation, as a result of which the 2030 date will not be met.

In addition, the minister promised to look into a method whereby crop protection products are issued on prescription. She also wants to discuss this with the sector. With this method, growers can resort to resources if the disease pressure becomes too high, although they can also reduce their use at the same time.

Finally, the minister will work on a more rigorous investigation into the assessment of resources. She will argue that the field studies should be included and that the cumulative effects should also be considered. However, the minister emphasizes that the judgment of the EFSA must be respected.

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Anne-Jan Doorn

Anne Jan Doorn is an arable expert at Boerenbusiness. He writes about the various arable farming markets and also focuses on the land and energy market.
Comments
45 comments
roderic June 7, 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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The minister is having a hard time, but is looking for the best for the farmer.
shoemakers1 June 7, 2019
minister only thinks about her income, doesn't give a shit what the facts are, she blows with all the winds, only to win the most votes, reality doesn't matter at all!!!
Skirt June 7, 2019
Didn't expect otherwise, it's no longer about facts. The agenda is that the sector should be shrivelled, emotion politics.
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south farmer June 7, 2019
She takes the seat of the CTGB. What function does the CTGB still have?
Calypso June 7, 2019
Is suffocated by the lice beetroot has already been sprayed 2x against lice seed potatoes already have to use extra lice killer and the wheat also has a lot of lice in it, normally you never have to inject there.
So that must also be sprayed, there are already 2000 extra costs compared to last year and the environment does not benefit from this either.
gerard June 7, 2019
look on the bright side she will also leave again. she no longer has my support
pete s June 7, 2019
Please abolish the ministry as soon as possible
And never again a minister of agriculture
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quite coarse June 7, 2019
Cowardly hat it is!
Be conducted by the green clubs to make them happy. She doesn't give a damn about who she has to stand for!
In the meantime, the environment and the farmer are the losers.
Joost June 7, 2019
Nounounou what a bile spitting by a few cornered bunglers.
Be happy with Carola, she at least understands something and she still has a kind of farmer's heart. You can't say that about the rest of that mess in DH. So in that sense chapeau veur heur.
Another thing is that agriculture is so damn rigid and many farmers cling so tightly to the known, even though everyone sees that this is no longer possible, that they completely disqualify themselves from society. Sad but true.
Evidence is the whine of those bunglers above among other things
Known to the editor June 7, 2019
We must understand that she, our minister, has politics, the chamber, on her neck. The wishes of society are very decisive. However, what I see now is panic football and our minister also lacks a good coat in this match. And just like in football, coaters are everywhere, but they pay close attention to their own interests and this creates a Babylonian confusion of tongues. A lot of dust and fog that lacks the vision of a vision based on ecological and economic possibilities for the primary sector.
Grower June 7, 2019
Complete ban on chemical agents in all of Europe immediately.. Will all farmers become wealthy.. And do the greens know what food scarcity is again..
peer June 7, 2019
should we check the import?
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Bildtboer June 7, 2019
Completely agree with Grower and pear, all switch to organic farming, all of Europe, closed borders for non-organic products, . Are we going to produce food for those who can still afford it,
Peter June 7, 2019
Completely agree with the last speakers, if there is a ban then check for the same cultivation conditions for the whole of Europe and imports.
To guarantee equal competition, because that's what it's all about, a level playing field, I don't think farmers are against that.
We farmers are no less, our image is at its peak.
A great challenge for everyone.

quite rude June 7, 2019
Joost, I don't feel in the well, but I do feel cheated en
neonics are just fine resources and the bee deaths most likely have other causes.
Glyphosate is the most researched drug in the world and there are already 3 cases of cancer known that may have the cause of glyphosate, how does that compare to alcohol, drugs, smoking, obesity, etc. etc. . drinking, smoking, eating too much is allowed. And who says that the users of glyphosate have used the drug according to the rules??? The citizen often did not see the remains in the purges.
And so we have to deal with the upcoming ban on reglone and chlorpropham and possibly much more.
I hope that hunger breaks out soon, then all that luxury nonsense is over.
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roy June 7, 2019
ban in europe is still far too limited. We are already more in a global market. What Schouten and Europe are doing is putting agriculture at a disadvantage. Removing all kinds of coatings without alternatives is very bad for crop health and spraying load.
How naive and unfriendly can you be?
Arable farming2.0 June 7, 2019
Are sales sites for private individuals where they advise administering glyphosate with a flower watering can. And that is the normal 360 Gr/ltr.
How crazy can you be, and then point the finger at farming.
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the grower June 7, 2019
Think that the US of Europe is necessary to correct this error of the Netherlands. To be able to stop. Better stop now and emigrate while the country still yields something
Charlie June 8, 2019
Totally agree with Teler, but who takes the lead? LTO?

Besides, they should never have brought those straightforward ones into government. With their 5 seats, they put on way too big pants.
Peter June 8, 2019
a new reality that entrepreneurs can capitalize on.
Postponing the ban on (very) harmful substances puts a brake on innovations and will continue to do so, because risks can be covered.
We have known a number of effective measures for a long time, but they provide too little financial gain. so as long as the resources are allowed to be used, financial gain and not improvement of business operations will remain the driving force.

that level playfield is a farce.
cultivation conditions, land prices, financing options, infrastructure and level of knowledge are and will remain unequal.
don't let that level playfield fool you; cut for the nose.

without prejudice to the fact that imports must meet the same requirements as our regulations: so no more GMO feed, but Brussels does not want to hear about that.
The question is how to do that with the recipes. who is authorized and able to write it in such a way that commerce has no say in it?
Arable farming2.0 June 8, 2019
Schouten just has blinders on, her policy or the policy that is mapped out for her. If Dutch agriculture does no good, never positively.

Moreover, it is up to the ctgb, etc. to assess the resources, not a bunch of environmental activists.

Maybe organic is a solution for a while, but then it will turn out that there will be even more hunger in the world.

Ditto with her circular agriculture, and then a supply standard of 170 kg N per ha. And the phosphate supply is also smaller than the output through the crop.
Skirt June 9, 2019
Closing borders for GMO and crops that have been sprayed is not possible at all, trade agreements have been concluded, if the EU does this, it will have very large effects on, for example, the car industry through counteractions. That is not going to happen, there are far too many jobs at stake.
grain grower June 10, 2019
hello Joost,
first of all you are a bungler yourself and probably not working in agriculture at all!
we have been hearing for years that they are so bad for the environment. come on get prescription resources. it is pretended that we are spraying for fun. any idea how much it costs and let's not forget how much it costs if we don't!
live for a while in reality, organic or what Mrs. Schouten has in mind is no longer feasible with modern agriculture and large companies. let alone that there is still food security!
other countries in the world are buying up land everywhere to make sure they can feed their people both now and in the future! and here the narrow-minded idealists have to tell us what is good for the world and thus destroy our sector. and when it's too late we have to produce again willy-nilly.
That person really has no idea what's going on and what she's putting at stake!
shoemakers1 June 10, 2019
completely right grain grower, they want to take everything off our hands, except the risks
bat street June 11, 2019
bio is just the future apparently, I say do it with all of us. now we just have to honestly determine who can live and who can't, because then we can only feed 33% of the world!

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yay June 11, 2019
Everything is fine organic in the EU and the borders are sealed, no fruit or anything from other continents. No Eastern Bloc grain, no oranges, no pineapples, no rice or anything. And then we just eat what the pot is!
Maybe this is the solution. Less for more.
Skirt June 11, 2019
Import blockade will therefore not happen due to trade agreements, export of agricultural products will decrease and imports will even increase if it is cheaper. Price level in the EU remains almost the same as the EU remains largely self-sufficient and imports from abroad if necessary, export of organic products outside the EU will be virtually non-existent due to the high cost price.
jpk June 11, 2019
Import outside the eu is not allowed anymore, according to ngo and greenpeace, appallingly high co2 emissions are carried out by christian union and d66 under the denominator saves the earth. it would gain vvd votes by pulling the plug now and joining the opposition become.
Peter34 June 11, 2019
@cereal grower. If food supply is so important to you, is switching from floriculture (bulbs, lilies) to food production a first measure?
I don't believe the commenters care at all about world food supplies. it is presented as an opportunity argument to perpetuate the current 'modern' agriculture on 'large' farms.
who says big companies are necessary? these are companies that put the farmer at the mercy of the farmer (banks, machine factories, GBM producers). and who decides what modern agriculture represents? is unilateral crop cultivation on sterile fields with a very close rotation with risk aversion by means of GBM modern? or could a different business management also be modern?
THE problem is that we don't know (anymore/not yet) how to do that by means of a recipe.
Cold feet are not for entrepreneurs, is it?
Skirt June 11, 2019
@peter34, large companies do not exist in NL at all, for that you have to be abroad, even outside the EU. Almost all food imported from outside the EU comes from companies that are considerably larger than the Dutch companies. The environmental pressure etc of imported food is in 99% of the cases higher than in NL, lack of any knowledge and shouting will not bring anyone anything.
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roy June 11, 2019
bizarrely large quantities of green peach aphids are caught. This ill-considered decision by Schouten has major consequences for the Dutch agricultural sector. Bringing down the competitive position in one fell swoop, how much damage can a minister do to the sector?
grain grower June 11, 2019
hello peter34, as said before, once again someone who does not work in the agricultural sector.
absolutely no idea what is going on in Dutch companies and how most can earn a decent living and continue to optimize and innovate their company.
I'm really the last one to start whining about the food supply and that I force someone here to switch. but as others have also said organic is not world nourishing. and only 5% of the Dutch can afford to eat organic. This is just a fact and has nothing to do with mood making or an occasional argument!
Peter34 June 12, 2019
@kjol. characteristic Kjol comment. when a critical note is made, it is by definition coming from someone from outside the agricultural sector. lack of inventiveness and courage to look over the fence does not show a view to the future. because Kjol, things are going to change, faster than you wish.
indeed large companies do not exist in the Netherlands. Not if you get to acres. But it is if you take labor productivity and turnover per company as yardsticks. Indication for this is the Dutch land price.
Skirt June 12, 2019
@Peter34, the land price in NL is largely decoupled from the agricultural value, the view of the future you are talking about lies in genetic adaptations, but the EU continues to fear that for the time being. And indeed, behind that fence, as a result of those genetic adaptations, a completely different agriculture will arise. It will be possible to do with much less chemistry, see the USA, etc., where the proportion of active ingredient per kilo of product has fallen sharply since GMO. So if you want to look over the fence then take the plane as simple as that.
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quite coarse June 12, 2019
I wonder if Peter34 can supply a few 10 thousand people for the hoe or on the weeding bed if we all have to start growing organically. It's already exciting enough to get people.
Peter34 is allowed to sit on a weed bed for a few weeks, can he reconsider whether he wants to do that until he is 67, haha. I already know the answer!!
peer June 12, 2019
dear colleague I think that 95% can afford to eat organic people go on vacation twice buy a mobil worth 2 euros and weeds are no problem either, look at the gps
the biggest challenge are the fungi
Peter34 June 12, 2019
@Kjol. would the EU's decision to ban GMO rest solely on emotion? Do not think so. We know too little about the effect of GMOs on health or the possible damage caused by these techniques. Animals seem to have 'a nose' for the distinction between natural and GMO material.
Agriculture in the US cannot serve as an example for us. Not least because many family businesses there have already been taken over by corporates, an ideal that most Dutch farmers do not have in mind.
It is true that agricultural value is decoupled from the market price of land. The financing of expensive land can still only come from the higher production value, unless you pay it out of your own pocket. That production value is considerably higher in NL than elsewhere, isn't it Kjol?

@Pretty rude. no I will not lie on a weed bed for hours. Machines have to do the weeding. Technology is advancing rapidly and for the first time weed products are not banned. Which should not be a reason to lean back.
grain grower June 12, 2019
dear pear,
how naive can you be to think that people are going to trade in their vacation and mobile phone for something as simple as food!
In addition, I don't think you really have a good idea of ​​the income of the average Dutch person with the associated costs before food is discussed.
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Skirt June 13, 2019
@Peter34, go out into the world, don't keep staring at the NL stamp or the island of the EU. The changes outside the EU are happening so fast in the genetic field, go on a study trip there. Fear is a bad advisor, and emotion is currently rampant, do you know that animals in the EU have been fed mainly GMO imports for years, have there been deaths as a result?
Arable farming2.0 June 13, 2019
In South America, a much higher dose of glyphosate is also sprayed to get only a little effect. And that soy feeds the European livestock industry. And then just point the finger at Dutch arable farming.

Ban everything in NL, increase residues on imports. The NL does not suffer from this, after all, it does not eat fresh fruit. Only humans do that.

Perhaps Carola is more suitable for a job at Greenpeace etc, than for agriculture minister.

If it continues like this, we will soon no longer have a sugar industry, we will only grow organic for the Jan modal plus category. The rest of the population will not be able to afford the organic food, or perhaps import cheap soy for vegan food.


Skirt June 13, 2019
Ultimately, we can import a lot more into the EU from Canada with low or no import duties thanks to the trade agreement with Canada or from Ukraine, for example, which can already export a lot to the EU free of duties thanks to a recently improved trade agreement. Food will remain available and cheap here, only the origin will change. This is also the case with the clothing industry, electronics, etc.
grain grower June 13, 2019
@peer and peter34.
It's annoying when the facts are harder than the wishes for better food production!
bunch of tree huggers!
don't pay June 14, 2019
We all wanted a Ministry of Agriculture, because OOO the agricultural sector was neglected.

Well now we have a minister and hundreds of civil servants who make and invent the rules especially for us every day.

50 years ago, a large part of the Dutch population still had a great affinity with agriculture and there was still some knowledge and a positive mindset about our sector.
Nowadays it's all theoretical knowledge and acquired knowledge from outside of consultancy firms manned by left-wing green twigs.

But luckily we have our ministry because THAT is what we all wanted so badly.

ps I have to pay for the 17th according to Flanderijn, but don't do it, we will experience it.
roderic June 17, 2019
The minister is having a hard time, but is looking for the best for the farmer.
??? !!! June 17, 2019
Roderic wrote:
The minister is having a hard time, but is looking for the best for the farmer.
Nothing is right here:
1) Roderic: Red Rik
2) Minister is having a hard time: Minister makes it easy for himself
3) does search: does not search
4) best for the farmer: worst for the farmer or; best for extremist townspeople.
You can no longer respond.

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