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Analysis BB Organic

Conventional forms a strong safety net for the organic market

1 September 2022 - Jurphaas Lugtenburg - 19 comments

The mood on the market for organic onions and carrots is cautiously improving. Confidence is growing among growers as well as among the trade. The trade in organic potatoes does not really want to get going.

The prices that buyers pay in conventional agriculture provide a solid foundation for the organic market. The price difference with organic is relatively small, which means that organic growers have an extra market, as it were. What does not fit now does not remain above the organic market, but disappears into the regular channel. This keeps the organic market clean and that helps the mood.

Carrots for immediate delivery have been sought. The yields of the early carrots are not easy, partly due to high aphid pressure early in the season and the drought of the last few months. As a result, some rinsers have a thin working stock and are actively looking for carrots. The DCA Indication Price takes another step up and this week amounts to €38 to €43 per 100 kilos.

Doubt
On the onion market, some growers are unsure what to do with the onions. The energy price and therefore the costs for storage have risen sharply compared to last season. The prices paid for onions on the farm are not spectacular, but not bad either. The question is how much confidence do you, as a grower, have in the market that the onion price will really take steps up in the coming months? It doesn't look bad per se. At the moment the onions are still quickly finding a buyer and there does not appear to be a too large stock. However, the previous season is still fresh in the minds of growers. Even then, expectations were high at the start of the season, but that promise was not fulfilled. The DCA Indication price for organic onions this week remains the same as last week at €30 to €35 per 100 kilos.

There is currently hardly any trade in organic potatoes. Agreements have been made in advance for an important part of the sales. In addition, there is hardly any demand for potatoes from Germany. The free trade in potatoes is therefore extremely limited. Due to the limited trade it is difficult to arrive at a price. The DCA Indication Price this week amounts to € 40 to € 45 per 100 kilos, although with a blow to the arm due to the limited number of transactions.

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Jurphaas Lugtenburg

He is a market specialist in grains and other agricultural commodities at DCA Market Intelligence. He also focuses on onions, potatoes, and roughage. Jurphaas also runs an arable farm in Voorne-Putten (South Holland).
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19 comments
shoemakers 2 September 2022
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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Shouldn't be allowed, that organic rubbish, on the conventional market, who wants that poison, on his plate?
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peter 2 September 2022
And conventional agriculture may once again solve the problems of organic agriculture. The sector will never mature in this way.
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frog 2 September 2022
I think it's fine if it is marketed as conventional, but then state on the label that this concerns onions that are not naturally ripened due to fungal infestation, with possible health risks as a result.
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Gerard 3 September 2022
Boy, say....
What a frustration there is. Let every farmer work in his own way that makes him feel good. There is something to notice in every way of working, but still respect each other's value. We are all colleagues
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frog 3 September 2022
Gerard wrote:
Boy, say....
What a frustration there is. Let every farmer work in his own way that makes him feel good. There is something to notice in every way of working, but still respect each other's value. We are all colleagues
Why does organic always say that their products ripen naturally? and that's just not true.
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jk 3 September 2022
Gerard wrote:
Boy, say....
What a frustration there is. Let every farmer work in his own way that makes him feel good. There is something to notice in every way of working, but still respect each other's value. We are all colleagues
if organic farming behaved the same way the other way around, that's fine. Now the conventional side is often exposed by the organic side in an unpleasant way in order to benefit from it. The growers themselves do not correct Bionext in this. nice collegiate. but truth always comes out. organic will shrink
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frog 3 September 2022
And then organic is also kept under control because of the nitrogen, nice with your gas burner to cremate your potatoes, including insects, next to a natura 2000 area. Also with the weeder over the entire lot to make all meadow birds a head smaller, well done.
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Hendrik 4 September 2022
Don't forget that organic contaminates the entire environment.
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Gerard 4 September 2022
As I wrote before, there is something to criticize about every system. I have been working conventionally for a while and have now been partly and now completely organic for a number of years. So I know both sides. And 15 years ago I myself thought that working organically was impossible. But if you turn the switch and then see with almost amazement how far you get with, for example, mechanical weed control, that's just fun. That's just a challenge. In the meantime, it is still hard work to earn a living. It was and still is.
I don't think it makes any sense to point at each other so negatively. That is my personal view. I respect my usual colleagues and also work with them. They sometimes come to use my weeding harrow or hoe. That's all going well and then you can also have a discussion about what could be done better. That's all fine. but giving anonymously to someone else is not the right way I think.



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in hiding 4 September 2022
yes, but talking about each other is definitely more fun than with each other
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frog 4 September 2022
Gerard wrote:
As I wrote before, there is something to criticize about every system. I have been working conventionally for a while and have now been partly and now completely organic for a number of years. So I know both sides. And 15 years ago I myself thought that working organically was impossible. But if you turn the switch and then see with almost amazement how far you get with, for example, mechanical weed control, that's just fun. That's just a challenge. In the meantime, it is still hard work to earn a living. It was and still is.
I don't think it makes any sense to point at each other so negatively. That is my personal view. I respect my usual colleagues and also work with them. They sometimes come to use my weeding harrow or hoe. That's all going well and then you can also have a discussion about what could be done better. That's all fine. but giving anonymously to someone else is not the right way I think.



I also have a lot of respect for decent organic companies, but I think it's a shame that we don't have a level playing field.
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Jan1 4 September 2022
The frustration is the result of the fact that the organic sector always wants to profile itself at the expense of conventional agriculture.
Certainly through the trade channels of the Organic, I treat the facts and truths about conventional crops very lightly.
I think it's a good thing that conventional farmers stand up for themselves and don't let the organic sector get their hands dirty.
shoemakers 4 September 2022
Have also been biologically active for years, only the green manure did well, totally fake, if you are honest in it, you will break, there, in the bio, it is nothing like lighting up, there is no worse for everyone, make it banned immediately, would be all it takes, but the hidden agenda, oooo oei
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Gerard 5 September 2022
@jan1, wouldn't be good if it actually is. That's not how the game should be played. To be honest, I thought it wouldn't be that bad, but of course I say that with my bio cap on. I think you can name the differences. But telling untruths is not good as far as I'm concerned. Maybe that's something to investigate by more independent journalists or something. To what extent that is or is not the case.
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Gerard 5 September 2022
@shoemakers, discussion ok. But I don't understand these kind of comments. There is nothing fake about my company Dr. And if you don't believe that, come by once
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Peter 6 September 2022
Gerard wrote:
@shoemakers, discussion ok. But I don't understand these kind of comments. There is nothing fake about my company Dr. And if you don't believe that, come by once
I have also farmed completely organic for 5 years. Never regretted the downshift, I am used to free market forces. What bothered me was that all summer organic shouts what they do (differently) and then sell the overkilos in the normal market to keep the price. I couldn't stand that anymore and I feel fine in the current situation.
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peasant 7 September 2022
peter wrote:
Gerard wrote:
@shoemakers, discussion ok. But I don't understand these kind of comments. There is nothing fake about my company Dr. And if you don't believe that, come by once
I have also farmed completely organic for 5 years. Never regretted the downshift, I am used to free market forces. What bothered me was that all summer organic shouts what they do (differently) and then sell the overkilos in the normal market to keep the price. I couldn't stand that anymore and I feel fine in the current situation.
if I hear it like that, there have been a number of large organic farmers after last year who had so much sick in the crops that they said another year so far and I'm going to spray again. and now that the prices are again disappointing compared to usual, there will be another contraction in organic. also because consumers are already moaning about money. ideals don't pay even though it looks so beautiful
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frog 7 September 2022
To come up with a d66 solution, simply make common more expensive.
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Drent 7 September 2022
the organic livestock farms also buy ordinary maize here, they mix digistate from conventional fermenters in the organic manure, etc. The government may think that organic is best, but in practice this is of course not true. So it turns out that organic doesn't last long without conventional
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