The European potato market is under pressure due to a significant surplus, meaning that in some cases, growers have to pay to sell their product. Due to the large supply, there is a lack of sales, and low prices or giving it away for free offer an insufficient solution to reduce stocks.
Dutch arable farmers and their colleagues in Belgium, Germany, and France have substantially expanded their potato cultivation over the past two years, driven by strong demand and good contract prices from the processing industry. Favorable growing conditions resulted in high yields in 2025, and consequently a large harvest.
However, demand for potatoes has clearly weakened. Increasing competition from Asia, import tariffs in the United States, and a weaker dollar have put pressure on the export position of European producers. As a result, a structural surplus has arisen.
Price formation reflects this situation. PotatoNL recently recorded €-1,00 to €-2,00 per 100 kilos for feed potatoes, while prices for processing potatoes are only slightly higher. In Belgium, the price level for processing potatoes of the Fontane and Challenger varieties fell yesterday to €0,00 to €0,50 per 100 kilos. Due to the surplus, volumes are shifting towards animal feed and bio-digestion, with disposal costs increasingly falling to growers, partly due to increased transport costs.
Time pressure towards new harvest
Although potatoes can technically be stored for a long time, the economic feasibility of doing so is declining. With no prospect of a price recovery, growers are deciding to limit storage costs and proceed with sales. As a result, extra volume is entering the market at an accelerated pace.
The surpluses in the Netherlands and surrounding countries are substantial. The Netherlands harvested approximately 4,2 million tonnes of ware potatoes in 2025, 900.000 tonnes more than the previous year. Part of this has since been sold for animal feed, fermentation, or starch processing, but an estimated 500.000 to 600.000 tonnes remain.
Large surpluses also exist in other countries. In Belgium, approximately 800.000 tonnes are in storage without copper, in France the surplus is estimated at 1 million tonnes, and a similar volume is expected in Germany. Based on DCA Market Intelligence estimates (2025), the total surplus in the EU-4 thus amounts to approximately 3,3 million tonnes.
Promotions
In Belgium, promotional campaigns are being set up to still sell potatoes as food, feed, or raw material for biogas. In France, GIPT and Arvalis are working on a protocol for controlled destruction to limit health risks.
The issue has been discussed in the Netherlands, but concrete measures have so far failed to materialize. Given the scale of the surpluses, broader initiatives are needed to create space in time for the new harvest.
The current situation underscores the need for market parties to realign production, contracting, and sales strategy with structurally changed market dynamics.
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I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
CM wrote:Oh yes, oh yes, you can completely numb your mind in arrogance; but you are entirely dependent on the potato manufacturers for your sales, and thus you are effectively just a factory worker, albeit without a collective labor agreement. And furthermore, have fun with your hobby (read: growing cheap animal feed). Responding to me is pointless, because for the rest of the week I won't be in a position to read your daily repeated drivel anyway (even if I wanted to).Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
CM wrote:Oh yes, oh yes, you can completely numb your mind in arrogance; but you are entirely dependent on the potato manufacturers for your sales, and thus you are effectively just a factory worker, albeit without a collective labor agreement. And furthermore, have fun with your hobby (read: growing cheap animal feed). Responding to me is pointless, because for the rest of the week I won't be in a position to read your daily repeated drivel anyway (even if I wanted to).Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Why don't we make ethanol from the surpluses? 1 kg of potatoes yields 0,1 liters of ethanol. Who can help me with this idea?
Why don't we make ethanol from the surpluses? 1 kg of potatoes yields 0,1 liters of ethanol. Who can help me with this idea?
Grow what is needed, not what is not needed; there is surplus, and that is market-determining and contradictory; things are different before you know it.
Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
A growing drama is gradually unfolding on the farmyards. They have been growing far below cost price for almost a year now. It started last year with old storage potatoes, then poor quality beets, onions, grain, preserves, etc. Now the sky-high costs of diesel and fertilizer (again). This is not going to end well; there has been no money for quite some time and everything is coming down the drain... this is not going to work out!
Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
connoisseur wrote:Fortunately, the carrots are still bringing in a reasonable amount of money.A growing drama is gradually unfolding on the farmyards. They have been growing far below cost price for almost a year now. It started last year with old storage potatoes, then poor quality beets, onions, grain, preserves, etc. Now the sky-high costs of diesel and fertilizer (again). This is not going to end well; there has been no money for quite some time and everything is coming down the drain... this is not going to work out!
juun wrote:Hey Jan, beets are okay too???? So that's what we're going to win the war with. It's absolutely useless! You couldn't even fill a tractor with it.Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
edkar wrote:Then you don't understand how to grow beets.juun wrote:Hey Jan, beets are okay too???? So that's what we're going to win the war with. It's absolutely useless! You couldn't even fill a tractor with it.Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
juun wrote:No, only you understand that, you know-it-all. If you make more than 5k from 1 hectare of beets, you can respond, and preferably before 2050. You don't get a thing; with current cultivation costs and everything going through the roof, you're happy with a balance that isn't even enough to pay the land lease. You should buy a new calculator if you can afford it.edkar wrote:Then you don't understand how to grow beets.juun wrote:Hey Jan, beets are okay too???? So that's what we're going to win the war with. It's absolutely useless! You couldn't even fill a tractor with it.Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
harry wrote:If major setbacks are going to occur this way, no one can sustain this. Livestock farmers themselves say no to potatoes that are a few cents cheaper; they cannot feed their animals. It is deeply sad.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
juuun wrote:I can't blame them for that; they pay arable farmers 30-40 euros per cubic meter to get rid of their manure.harry wrote:If major setbacks are going to occur this way, no one can sustain this. Livestock farmers themselves say no to potatoes that are a few cents cheaper; they cannot feed their animals. It is deeply sad.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
ex beet grower wrote:Why do you need 5k net to grow beets? It actually worked once, by the way. It's a grain crop in terms of work, and at least progress is still being made with breeding; only maize can keep up with that.juun wrote:No, only you understand that, you know-it-all. If you make more than 5k from 1 hectare of beets, you can respond, and preferably before 2050. You don't get a thing; with current cultivation costs and everything going through the roof, you're happy with a balance that isn't even enough to pay the land lease. You should buy a new calculator if you can afford it.edkar wrote:Then you don't understand how to grow beets.juun wrote:Hey Jan, beets are okay too???? So that's what we're going to win the war with. It's absolutely useless! You couldn't even fill a tractor with it.Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
juun wrote:Just read what you're writing yourself..... for the last 5 years, the beet price has simply been absolutely rubbish. Now, with the increases of the last 2 years in land prices /GBM / fertilizer / diesel etc., it is still less than a pittance. That isn't rocket science, surely; you simply cannot grow your business on that, let alone maintain the current one. That cost-benefit ratio is 200% flawed.ex beet grower wrote:Why do you need 5k net to grow beets? It actually worked once, by the way. It's a grain crop in terms of work, and at least progress is still being made with breeding; only maize can keep up with that.juun wrote:No, only you understand that, you know-it-all. If you make more than 5k from 1 hectare of beets, you can respond, and preferably before 2050. You don't get a thing; with current cultivation costs and everything going through the roof, you're happy with a balance that isn't even enough to pay the land lease. You should buy a new calculator if you can afford it.edkar wrote:Then you don't understand how to grow beets.juun wrote:Hey Jan, beets are okay too???? So that's what we're going to win the war with. It's absolutely useless! You couldn't even fill a tractor with it.Beets will also do okay if you didn't sow too generously.
Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
Runs out of diesel soon, and a lot will change again. You never know.
wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Arie poor branch. wrote:That Arie remains a strange one, 30-40 euros??? Here in West Brabant, those cattle farmers already start getting worked up if they have to pay 8 euros.juuun wrote:I can't blame them for that; they pay arable farmers 30-40 euros per cubic meter to get rid of their manure.harry wrote:If major setbacks are going to occur this way, no one can sustain this. Livestock farmers themselves say no to potatoes that are a few cents cheaper; they cannot feed their animals. It is deeply sad.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
You are right, NN.
Just to avoid getting into a discussion with your nonsense stories, I say, and others with me: You are right, NN.
French wrote:You are apparently a bit slow and almost certainly a copycat without an opinion of your own, but it makes me very satisfied to note that you, too, have apparently seen the light. It has been said before; but of course I am right. That goes without saying, man. Just go for a drive with the tractor, it might clear your head. You need that in these stressful times. It certainly won't make you any slower.☺You are right, NN.
CM wrote:He has been beaten flat. This is his only defense. It apparently affects you.Just to avoid getting into a discussion with your nonsense stories, I say, and others with me: You are right, NN.
CM wrote:Of course I'm right. Glad you see it. Do you know what I read this morning too? Pay attention: "It is becoming clear that farmers are apparently incapable of making good choices regarding their production." You bunch of know-it-alls, I didn't make that up! Ha, Ha.wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
harry wrote:From what I’ve heard through oral tradition, things weren’t great in the 30s either; they let milk run into the ditches, pigs were released into the woods to forage for their own food, and let’s not even mention the grain and potato prices. The advantage of that era was the low costs; mechanization was scarce, and staff were often (partially) paid in kind. Costs were low, whereas now we are faced with high fixed costs over which we have little to no influence. There are plenty of examples of how we, as a sector, are being ruined; just mention all those useless certifications that cost a lot but yield nothing. Recently, I had the dubious honor of receiving the man again to have the electrical installation inspected for insurance purposes, even though I also have a maintenance contract in place. I cannot pass these costs on to anyone. It would be good for the LTO, whether or not in cooperation with other employers' organizations, to draw attention to this.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
blinkers wrote:In the 30s, my grandfather was offered a 6-hectare plot of land by the then owner of our farm, but he only wanted to keep it clear if he no longer had to pay rent for the rest of the business. The lessor did not agree to this, so it lay fallow for years because no one wanted to use it for free. It hasn't come to that (yet). Later, it was incorporated into the farm after all.harry wrote:From what I’ve heard through oral tradition, things weren’t great in the 30s either; they let milk run into the ditches, pigs were released into the woods to forage for their own food, and let’s not even mention the grain and potato prices. The advantage of that era was the low costs; mechanization was scarce, and staff were often (partially) paid in kind. Costs were low, whereas now we are faced with high fixed costs over which we have little to no influence. There are plenty of examples of how we, as a sector, are being ruined; just mention all those useless certifications that cost a lot but yield nothing. Recently, I had the dubious honor of receiving the man again to have the electrical installation inspected for insurance purposes, even though I also have a maintenance contract in place. I cannot pass these costs on to anyone. It would be good for the LTO, whether or not in cooperation with other employers' organizations, to draw attention to this.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
agria2 wrote:Well, I have news: those times will never come back. The landlords here aren't going to charge a dime less in rent. They give up the land themselves, keep the manure and manure money themselves, and the RVO money themselves. And then hefty rent; no one can compete with that. Farmers are the only ones laughing: no risk, no work, and a fat bank account at the end of the year. Let the little farmer struggle with his leased Fendt of 250 hp or more and his farm, which is in the hands of the company and leased back, because that’s how the iron has been calculated (out of the frying pan into the fire).blinkers wrote:In the 30s, my grandfather was offered a 6-hectare plot of land by the then owner of our farm, but he only wanted to keep it clear if he no longer had to pay rent for the rest of the business. The lessor did not agree to this, so it lay fallow for years because no one wanted to use it for free. It hasn't come to that (yet). Later, it was incorporated into the farm after all.harry wrote:From what I’ve heard through oral tradition, things weren’t great in the 30s either; they let milk run into the ditches, pigs were released into the woods to forage for their own food, and let’s not even mention the grain and potato prices. The advantage of that era was the low costs; mechanization was scarce, and staff were often (partially) paid in kind. Costs were low, whereas now we are faced with high fixed costs over which we have little to no influence. There are plenty of examples of how we, as a sector, are being ruined; just mention all those useless certifications that cost a lot but yield nothing. Recently, I had the dubious honor of receiving the man again to have the electrical installation inspected for insurance purposes, even though I also have a maintenance contract in place. I cannot pass these costs on to anyone. It would be good for the LTO, whether or not in cooperation with other employers' organizations, to draw attention to this.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
wrote:Dude... which farmer ran off with your wife that you have the motivation to try to annoy farmers on this forum day in, day out, and even pay subscription fees for it? Maybe you should talk to a professional about this.CM wrote:Of course I'm right. Glad you see it. Do you know what I read this morning too? Pay attention: "It is becoming clear that farmers are apparently incapable of making good choices regarding their production." You bunch of know-it-alls, I didn't make that up! Ha, Ha.wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
Buzzard wrote:Hey mate, you're completely wrong. So my tactic is working. Thanks owlwrote:Dude... which farmer ran off with your wife that you have the motivation to try to annoy farmers on this forum day in, day out, and even pay subscription fees for it? Maybe you should talk to a professional about this.CM wrote:Of course I'm right. Glad you see it. Do you know what I read this morning too? Pay attention: "It is becoming clear that farmers are apparently incapable of making good choices regarding their production." You bunch of know-it-alls, I didn't make that up! Ha, Ha.wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
agria2 wrote:Well, I have news: those times will never come back. The landlords here aren't going to charge a dime less in rent. They give up the land themselves, keep the manure and manure money themselves, and the RVO money themselves. And then hefty rent; no one can compete with that. Farmers are the only ones laughing: no risk, no work, and a fat bank account at the end of the year. Let the little farmer struggle with his leased Fendt of 250 hp or more and his farm, which is in the hands of the company and leased back, because that’s how the iron has been calculated (out of the frying pan into the fire).blinkers wrote:In the 30s, my grandfather was offered a 6-hectare plot of land by the then owner of our farm, but he only wanted to keep it clear if he no longer had to pay rent for the rest of the business. The lessor did not agree to this, so it lay fallow for years because no one wanted to use it for free. It hasn't come to that (yet). Later, it was incorporated into the farm after all.harry wrote:From what I’ve heard through oral tradition, things weren’t great in the 30s either; they let milk run into the ditches, pigs were released into the woods to forage for their own food, and let’s not even mention the grain and potato prices. The advantage of that era was the low costs; mechanization was scarce, and staff were often (partially) paid in kind. Costs were low, whereas now we are faced with high fixed costs over which we have little to no influence. There are plenty of examples of how we, as a sector, are being ruined; just mention all those useless certifications that cost a lot but yield nothing. Recently, I had the dubious honor of receiving the man again to have the electrical installation inspected for insurance purposes, even though I also have a maintenance contract in place. I cannot pass these costs on to anyone. It would be good for the LTO, whether or not in cooperation with other employers' organizations, to draw attention to this.Yeah, it wasn't that bad even in the 30s; working for a year, incurring costs, and then still paying extra to get rid of your product.
wrote:Blessed are the poor in spirit.Buzzard wrote:Hey mate, you're completely wrong. So my tactic is working. Thanks owlwrote:Dude... which farmer ran off with your wife that you have the motivation to try to annoy farmers on this forum day in, day out, and even pay subscription fees for it? Maybe you should talk to a professional about this.CM wrote:Of course I'm right. Glad you see it. Do you know what I read this morning too? Pay attention: "It is becoming clear that farmers are apparently incapable of making good choices regarding their production." You bunch of know-it-alls, I didn't make that up! Ha, Ha.wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
CM wrote:Dear CM, please look up what that standard phrase you keep mentioning means. Once you figure that out, you will probably stop using it improperly. If you can't figure it out, I'd be happy to help.wrote:Blessed are the poor in spirit.Buzzard wrote:Hey mate, you're completely wrong. So my tactic is working. Thanks owlwrote:Dude... which farmer ran off with your wife that you have the motivation to try to annoy farmers on this forum day in, day out, and even pay subscription fees for it? Maybe you should talk to a professional about this.CM wrote:Of course I'm right. Glad you see it. Do you know what I read this morning too? Pay attention: "It is becoming clear that farmers are apparently incapable of making good choices regarding their production." You bunch of know-it-alls, I didn't make that up! Ha, Ha.wrote:You are right NN (or was it actually wrong?)CM wrote:Yes, you are arrogant and you express yourself very disdainfully, but you are simply a factory worker. Nothing more, and sometimes even less. But a factory worker without rights, who works mainly in the field. Let's say: a casual laborer who brings his own tools. If I were you (which fortunately I am not), in your position I would take even fewer risks and ensure you have a plan B, namely signing a contract with a green waste collector as well. Or even opt for security entirely and politely submit a request to the management of a potato factory asking if they would be willing to hire you on a permanent basis with an employment contract (probably not). I have seen plenty of arrogant (potato) gamblers tumble completely into the abyss.☺Lezen wrote:Things might be better now with contracts for the 25 harvest, but there have been a few really good years for those who had them available. It’s always easy to say that in hindsight. However, I have always been of the opinion—and still am, actually—to spread your bets with your strategy. Contracts for the 26 now are becoming meager; a low price for a limited quantity. You should do the math again to see if you really should do that, or just put in much less. The risk is even more one-sided for the grower than before. I’m not much of a factory worker.Arie poor branch. wrote:He doesn't say whether or not they signed a contract. But whether or not you let yourself be fooled by the mega acreage and the equally massive machinery.I don't entirely agree with you about the blinders. People who wanted nothing to do with the industry, and therefore not with contracts either, are now suffering more on average than those who covered a significant part or all of it by 2025.
I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
Arie poor branch. wrote:You just shouldn't respond to that CM. He/she is undoubtedly a bumpkin, not very skilled in communication, with a narrow view of the world. The only thing he/she can do is keep spouting the same exclamation. Sometimes he/she doesn't even know the actual meaning of what he/she is saying. Just let it go. Not interesting. A bit of a laugh ☺Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
Arie poor branch. wrote:You just shouldn't respond to that CM. He/she is undoubtedly a bumpkin, not very skilled in communication, with a narrow view of the world. The only thing he/she can do is keep spouting the same exclamation. Sometimes he/she doesn't even know the actual meaning of what he/she is saying. Just let it go. Not interesting. A bit of a laugh ☺Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
wrote:Who are we laughing at? You or cm? This stirring up trouble doesn't suit me. Please stop.Arie poor branch. wrote:You just shouldn't respond to that CM. He/she is undoubtedly a bumpkin, not very skilled in communication, with a narrow view of the world. The only thing he/she can do is keep spouting the same exclamation. Sometimes he/she doesn't even know the actual meaning of what he/she is saying. Just let it go. Not interesting. A bit of a laugh ☺Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
Arie poor branch. wrote:You just shouldn't respond to that CM. He/she is undoubtedly a bumpkin, not very skilled in communication, with a narrow view of the world. The only thing he/she can do is keep spouting the same exclamation. Sometimes he/she doesn't even know the actual meaning of what he/she is saying. Just let it go. Not interesting. A bit of a laugh ☺Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
Arie poor branch. wrote:You just shouldn't respond to that CM. He/she is undoubtedly a bumpkin, not very skilled in communication, with a narrow view of the world. The only thing he/she can do is keep spouting the same exclamation. Sometimes he/she doesn't even know the actual meaning of what he/she is saying. Just let it go. Not interesting. A bit of a laugh ☺Manus wrote:Fortunately, everyone is free to have an opinion about anything, but I find it rather selective of you not to have an opinion when a Bible verse was regularly mentioned here on this forum, that you never responded to it, and then to immediately call it hypocrisy when someone else does. Respect is the least we should expect from each other, even if we disagree. I agree 100% with you that this is a potato forum, but it has never been strange for a different path to be taken sometimes.I'm done with those hypocritical preachers here. It's a potato forum; nothing more, nothing less. Believe what you want, but do it in private. Quickly forget season 25 and focus on 26. Planting less is the first step that needs to be taken towards recovery. Expensive diesel is a blessing in disguise for leaving those reels in the shed.
