Onion grower will soon contribute to BO Arable Farming

This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url = https: // www.boerenbusiness.nl/akkerbouw/uien/artikel/10910602/uienteler-betaalt-straks-mee-aan-bo-akkerbouw]Onion grower will soon pay his share of BO Akkerbouw[/url]

yes come on again, farmers are being driven to even greater expense. Research has been done by other companies for years so we don't need BO for that. Stop this organization quickly.

drent wrote:

This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url = https: // www.boerenbusiness.nl/akkerbouw/uien/artikel/10910602/uienteler-betaalt-straks-mee-aan-bo-akkerbouw]Onion grower will soon pay his share of BO Akkerbouw[/url]

yes come on again, farmers are being driven to even greater expense. Research has been done by other companies for years so we don't need BO for that. Stop this organization quickly.

Indeed, I cannot catch BO on any added value! What I also increasingly have my doubts about are all those certifications, no one can make head or tail of them anymore. This year I grew the onions without a certificate, no problem at all, only the buyer wanted a copy of what I had sprayed.

Juun and Klaas are in the nursery class of BO together with Wageningen to spar about disease and weed control. The competition can only be won with the chemical industry that threatens to leave agriculture because of all these know-it-alls.

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

Anne wrote:

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

it is a death blow that independent practical research was abolished in the past. all research is commercial and every club (purchasing group) has a remedy for something. then those 16 euros are nothing.

juun wrote:

Anne wrote:

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

it is a death blow that independent practical research was abolished in the past. all research is commercial and every club (purchasing group) has a remedy for something. then those 16 euros are nothing.

true, 16 euros is nothing but if I look at what I now pay to the BO arable farming I can better hire a research agency on my own land that adds something at least. I have not seen 1 point where I had/have something.

Because the big serious companies like Bayer etc. are losing their resources and have to provide all kinds of extra research, the power now belongs to the fairy tale men with their molds and smells and whatever else the bio uses.

Henk wrote:

Because the big serious companies like Bayer etc. are losing their resources and have to provide all kinds of extra research, the power now belongs to the fairy tale men with their molds and smells and whatever else the bio uses.

If you don't understand that Bayer etc are the big money grabbers then you've been living under a rock. The multinationals don't bring anything, they only take and preferably as much as possible.

Harrie wrote:

Henk wrote:

Because the big serious companies like Bayer etc. are losing their resources and have to provide all kinds of extra research, the power now belongs to the fairy tale men with their molds and smells and whatever else the bio uses.

If you don't understand that Bayer etc are the big money grabbers then you've been living under a rock. The multinationals don't bring anything, they only take and preferably as much as possible.

Then you don't use anything from Bayer etc. Good luck.

drent wrote:

juun wrote:

Anne wrote:

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

it is a death blow that independent practical research was abolished in the past. all research is commercial and every club (purchasing group) has a remedy for something. then those 16 euros are nothing.

true, 16 euros is nothing but if I look at what I now pay to the BO arable farming I can better hire a research agency on my own land that adds something at least. I have not seen 1 point where I had/have something.

How many times do you have to be told to say goodbye to agencies that don't add anything?

frog wrote:

Harrie wrote:

Henk wrote:

Because the big serious companies like Bayer etc. are losing their resources and have to provide all kinds of extra research, the power now belongs to the fairy tale men with their molds and smells and whatever else the bio uses.

If you don't understand that Bayer etc are the big money grabbers then you've been living under a rock. The multinationals don't bring anything, they only take and preferably as much as possible.

Then you don't use anything from Bayer etc. Good luck.

it's not about taking Harry too seriously.

I think BO arable farming is a very important club for the sector! The only place where joint action can be taken. Discussion partner towards the government. Narrow-minded people here on the forum who do not look beyond their own short-term interest. The Netherlands has become a large agricultural country through ovo triangle, that has been almost completely broken down, finally there is something again! Kudos.

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

Anne wrote:

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

You are there yourself also so-called practical research is often supported by commercial companies!! That you are bombarded with products that promise a lot and ultimately add little is of all times. A few years ago foliar fertilizers were a hype, ultimately the added value turned out to be very limited you can also do these tests yourself and draw conclusions from them.

It can freeze or thaw wrote:

Anne wrote:

As growers, we should not underestimate how much independent knowledge we have. We are bombarded with commercial products. We have lost a great deal of independent research and even 16 euros per hectare is made a problem. 1 spraying with water already costs more in hours and diesel. If I look at the current situation, we are lagging behind Belgium when you look at research in horticulture, which includes onions. The Netherlands would never have gotten this far if everyone had gone it alone.

You are there yourself also so-called practical research is often supported by commercial companies!! That you are bombarded with products that promise a lot and ultimately add little is of all times. A few years ago foliar fertilizers were a hype, ultimately the added value turned out to be very limited you can also do these tests yourself and draw conclusions from them.

Farmers who do not spray a line themselves... You cannot draw a sound conclusion from that. You have to conduct tests with at least 4 repetitions at different locations in the plot. And preferably at multiple locations. Those Farmers' line tests say nothing. The basis for perhaps greater variation than whether or not to spray a product.