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Farmer secretly visits Animal Rights

6 February 2019 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 28 comments

He entered the dilapidated room with a beating heart: the farmer who went undercover on the January 23 Animal Rights night. He himself wanted to know what kind of people they are who break into farmers' houses at night. And so this LTO driver went into the lion's den.

The LTO driver is still so impressed. Since he is anxious that he will still receive a visit from Animal Rights, he prefers not to reveal his name. That is why we call him Bertus in this article. Boerenbusiness discussed the evening with him, with the main question being: what can livestock farming learn from this?

The supporters of Animal Rights
Bert is impressed. Impressed by the people, by what they say and by the images they show. "There were 60 to 70 people in the room and they came from all over the country. The average age was somewhere between 20 and 30 years." That made him look quite out of place, and his posture certainly doesn't fit the average Animal Rights fan. He looks a bit overfed. Pretty soon he got the question: "You're from the opposing team, aren't you?" He had thought of an alter-ego beforehand, because a farmer's driver didn't seem like the best answer. He got away with it.

The most horrible images of animals in livestock farming passed on a screen. Erwin Vermeulen, the figurehead of Animal Rights, addressed the audience. The LTO director finds him very credible. "He's eloquent." Vermeulen talks about his children: a deaf and a blind dog. "They love that. However, when a farmer has a sick animal, he is immediately dismissed as an animal abuser. Vermeulen is a hero because he has a deaf and a blind dog. Farmers take care of sick animals every day."

Indoctrination
"I understand that you become extreme and activist when you see these images and think that this is the common practice." He points to an orange bottle on the table: "If you've been told all your life that that bottle is red, then it's red to you, isn't it?" It is the same with the Animal Rights supporters, he believes. "They are indoctrinated. I never see the abuses they show. From my work (besides the board and the farm) I visit about 600 stables a year. I have never seen what Animal Rights shows."

Esther Ouwehand (Party for the Animals) also speaks, thanking the audience for making the abuses visible and for distributing the images. Vermeulen always talks about showing abuses. The word 'break in' is not mentioned by either of them. Peter Jansen, the Vegan Streaker, also speaks. He gives tips on how to stay out of the camera when looking for wrongdoing.

News hour
Bertus also watched the broadcast of Nieuwsuur, in which Jaco Geurts (CDA) and Esther Ouwehand debate the burglaries. According to Ouwehand, the filmmakers are open and honest. "They report to the Dutch Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority (NVWA) what they find and actually say 'come on, here I am'." The driver becomes angry when he sees the images. "This is hypocritical, because they're just sitting there on that night giving tips on how not to get caught."

He has nothing good to say about Ouwehand, who supported her on 23 January to Animal Rights and, according to Bertus, acted as if they were the heroes. "The interdependence between the Party of the Animals and Animal Rights is in any case clear. The contacts are at least warm. Logically, the people of Animal Rights will also vote for the Party for the Animals. It is therefore not surprising that Ouwehand likes to befriend these people."

"It's sad that livestock farming is getting all this shit," says Bertus. Unilever makes a 30% return on our products and they have nothing to answer for. However, how much return does a farmer make? That is hardly something and then we can also defend ourselves continuously."

The learning points?
Looking back at the evening, the LTO director thinks it is important that farmers continue to tell their own story and open the stables. "If we tell our own story, then we don't have to respond to these kinds of people. However, we do have to get a stage." He refers to Schouten's vision: "That vision also includes that people hear the real story, that people realize what we all do." The ministry also has a role in this, he believes.

On the evening there were sweaters and scarves for sale with the image of Animal Rights on them. When asked whether he has bought some of the merchandising, he sounds convinced: "No, really not, what should I do with that? Although it might have been useful for a next undercover operation."

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28 comments
hans 6 February 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/ artikel/10881261/boerendriver-visit-stiekem-animal-rights]Farmer's driver secretly visits Animal Rights[/url]
"Since he is anxious that he will still receive a visit from Animal Rights, he prefers not to reveal his name."

Something to hide? Or not sure of his own company, because

"I never see the abuses they show. From my work (besides the board and the farm) I visit about 600 stables a year. I have never seen what Animal Rights shows."

That means about 3 company visits per day for his work, in addition to his board position(s).

And then he calls himself a farmer.

And just as he sees no wrong in any business,

which of course is not the case because accidents always happen when you work with living beings,

he sees of Animals Rights (and the PvdD) only the "great injustice" that is being done to farmers,

without the reasons for the AR provided,
or to recognize that livestock farming is coming under increasing financial and mental pressure with the accompanying excesses,

especially from his administrative side trying to understand, let alone looking for a solution.
Skirt 6 February 2019
First let them have a look at the halal slaughterhouses, you will never hear about that from the selective animal lovers.
Certainly afraid of an aggressive Muslim who then visits them at home.
hans 6 February 2019
Kjol, why not the kosher slaughterhouses written? Are you also afraid of reprisals?
And slaughterhouses are indeed visited by them, they argue for better surveillance, cameras, but our fine government keeps it on "self-monitoring" at this branch known as very reliable.

But never point at others when you are not clean yourself.

8900 6 February 2019
Precisely kjol, those people have created their job/hobby by being dissatisfied (creating dissatisfaction) with livestock farming. As long as the livestock industry continues to exist and they can find a 'firing bow' that they can also hit with, they are sure of their job/hobby. And they do this in a way that is safe for themselves by harassing peace-loving people / frightening them.

hans 6 February 2019
By the way, halal slaughterhouses? I thought that almost all "normal" slaughterhouses nowadays mostly slaughter halal?
Nice and easy, because then they don't have to create 2 streams of meat, the Christian Dutchman eats everything.
Henri 6 February 2019
Bertus, the entire agricultural sector makes a big profit from feed to supermarket. Not just Unilever. Only we as farmers do not make a profit. I can still have the best of supermarket and unilever. What annoys me the most are the compound feed companies, but they do complain hypocritically about selling prices at the kitchen table. But meanwhile doing everything they can to ensure that everything stays the same because that's what makes the most money. And the farmer is looked at for everything.
bertus 6 February 2019
I think this is a good move. because everything AR would like to tell and ester of course, has not happened to a stranger in the room. time for action
Subscriber
Air 6 February 2019
Types like Hans poison any reasonable form of discussion.
tinus 6 February 2019
still one thing, if you can already see from someone's posture what kind of MEAT you have in the cockpit.
it couldn't get much clearer.
room 6 February 2019
Didn't that Bertus bring a camera to that meeting? Could be a VERY BIG HIT on YouTube.
So Bertus, please bring a hidden camera next time.
sustainable member 6 February 2019
bertus van lto,
at lto they still take an offensive stance.
do this now.
then you get and still have what you go for.
Henk 6 February 2019
Hey Hans, you have a weird reaction to the article!
why don't you reveal your full name?
Are you also afraid of reprisals?
Wim 6 February 2019
Hi Hans, I assume that you are also one of the heroes that Ester Ouwehand is talking about. Reading carefully and knowing the sector may still be a learning process for you.
The fact that Hans does not disclose his identity has nothing to do with the state of his company or his way of conducting business, but the fact that the way AR made company visits is not necessarily good for the animals (stress).
Furthermore, Hans writes 600 stables and not 600 companies, as you may have noticed on your nightly visits.
Most farms consist of several stables.
The fact that AR is critical of the sector is only good and ensures that animal welfare is nowhere as high as in the Netherlands. But I have major problems with the way they express criticism. How would you feel if you were filmed in the toilet or if you accidentally threw a filter cigarette butt into the toilet?
Henk 6 February 2019
@wim you are confusing bertus and hans!
hans 6 February 2019
AAR, Henk and Wim, all in the assumptions regarding my person. Doesn't make much sense, but I prefer to keep it substantive. And I am not afraid, but there is little that can be done against internet aggression.

It doesn't matter whether they are 600 companies or stables, the stables are large, and hopping back and forth is no longer an option (hygiene).
Stress for the animals is a good reason to oppose unreported visits, but if these visits were unsuccessful, the motivation would quickly disappear.
Animal welfare is good in the Netherlands on average, I agree with you, but the excesses are there, partly due to the high production requirements set by the Dutch farmer. Whether they are the best in the world is questionable, partly depending on what you set your requirements.
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erik 6 February 2019
It would have been nice for the editors of Boerenbusinness if they had posted the whole story of Bertus (which can be found on social media) and if everyone had read it from A to Z before we stumble over each other again. It sometimes looks like the second room here
Take Brotner 6 February 2019
What message is that Eric? On social media?
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erik 6 February 2019
could not find it on twitter, there was a public meeting of animal rights, there was also a reporter from weekly magazine De Boerderij present.
Berry 6 February 2019
Googling for: "A farmer's son comes to the activists" Then you will find the article you are looking for.
J. VanLeeuwen 7 February 2019
The undercover farmer is afraid of a visit from AR? Why? For fear that they secretly film his stable at night?
Cor 7 February 2019
Bertus director of LTO, if a wolf in sheep's clothing wallowing in pitifulness instead of tackling the abuses and bad apples in the industry and showing that, you deprive animal activists of the right to exist, why don't you want to see that : laziness, laziness, arrogance, stupidity, you do not remove the abuses by trying to put the messengers in a bad light, get rid of that cowardice, with people and organization like you the farmers are in no way benefited, abuses behind the closed walls of the wanting to keep stables is not acceptable in a constitutional state, farmers must also account for themselves, even if they naturally do not want to. I like good farmers who realize that animal welfare is not just their business, it's everyone's business, and luckily that's the majority.
Pathetic? 7 February 2019
Last year, the AR put a video on social media of abuses at a chicken farm in the NOP. The next day the NVWA came to take a look and it turned out that nothing was wrong. The video in question turned out to be from another country. It will just happen to you as a livestock farmer. Last night Mrs Thieme was once again talking to Jinek about vegan meat, not a journalist who asks about the link she has with her ex's vegan industry...
Jb 7 February 2019
Announce the next meeting but we will go with more will be fun I can assure you who is coming
meatball 7 February 2019
I'll take the meat bites...
of platings 7 February 2019
You don't have to worry about it, it looks a lot like the Nazi rise, but this aside.
This pathetic country has long been doomed, just read the newspapers for this. One day things will explode and then it will in any case be a civil war and perhaps WW3. Well, too much prosperity does strange things to people.
Subscriber
info 9 February 2019
That bunch of 20 and 30 ers should have a lesson in education and it should be made clear that this is not tolerated by a hard-working livestock farmer, please publication of the next meeting AR. I think they will quickly change their minds.
Subscriber
quite coarse 10 February 2019
The Agenda a of A R. is on their website and saw that they are at a fair in Ostend or something yesterday and today.
Maybe it would be nice to go to a meeting of those guys en masse!
A war strategy is to know the enemy .
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