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New reference date for nitrogen and phosphate: 4 October 2019

4 October 2019 - Wouter Baan - 64 comments

In order to cope with the nitrogen impasse, the cabinet has opted to make internal and external balancing possible again. The reference date for the number of animal and phosphate rights has been set at 4 October. Furthermore, it is promised that the shrinkage of the livestock will not be forced, but will happen voluntarily, smartly and warmly.

In a letter to the House of Representatives, agriculture minister Carola Schouten writes that a voluntary reorganization of the livestock is the starting point. Stopping companies with the highest livestock emissions are the first to qualify. It is not yet known how much money will be allocated for this. The amounts are said to be in the billions of euros. Schouten promises those who stay to make investments in low-emission stables possible.

External netting
From 11 October it will be possible again to submit applications for internal netting. External netting is also becoming a possibility, whereby the animal and phosphate rights (based on the ammonia space sold) of a livestock farm are taken over by the government, Schouten writes. The government has set the creaming percentage at 30% for this. The creaming only applies to external netting and not to mutual trade between livestock farmers.

A legislative amendment is needed whereby animal rights can be withdrawn in trade between private parties. This will be submitted very shortly, writes Schouten.

Additional measures are taken to prevent 'undesirable effects' of these measures. The minister means by this that livestock farmers, in anticipation of the amendment of the law, will waive their rights and thereby parry the creaming percentage. The cabinet uses 4 October as the reference date for the number of animal and phosphate rights that an entrepreneur has registered with RVO.nl.

Agriculture: Sacrifice of the countryside
Agriculture in the Netherlands does not agree with the government's nitrogen plans. They consider the actions too premature, given that they do not know exactly where the nitrogen will descend. They also consider netting a sacrifice of the countryside to the city and industry.

In addition, according to the farmers' organisation, the plans will increase the cost price for livestock farmers and companies around Nature 2000 areas will be closed, so that they will be doomed within 10 years. 

Click here to read the letter to parliament. 
 

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Wouter Job

Wouter Baan is editor-in-chief of Boerenbusiness. He also focuses on dairy, pig and meat markets. He also follows (business) developments within agribusiness and interviews CEOs and policymakers.
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64 comments
herm 4 October 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/ artikel/10884228/nieuwe- reference date-stikstof-en-phosphate-4-oktober-2019]New reference date for nitrogen and phosphate: 4 October 2019[/url]
It is based on incorrectly obtained figures, wake up!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t40rnXRe4LA&feature=youtu.be
wibo 4 October 2019
They didn't get the message last Tuesday.
Planning another ride to The Hague? November 1st ? We were apparently too friendly and our cuddly factor is still too great!
Mens 4 October 2019
How can you let the phosphate rights and animal numbers be decisive for companies with purchased ammonia rights before PAS. Or does this apply to companies that have expanded within PAS.
bertus 4 October 2019
You will not have any rights under the company (or have not yet leased it)
jp 4 October 2019
Erm the link doesn't work?
erik 4 October 2019
exactly yes no chance this again
Floor 4 October 2019
You could wait for it. You don't have to expect anything from that bunch of windbags in The Hague. You are just cheated where you stand.
Tuesday still very understanding and before the week is over they are already looking at how they can kill a few more farmers.
Piet 4 October 2019
Well, let's hope that doesn't happen to us. Even the costs of the phosphate rights we bought that we were cut back
homemade cookie 4 October 2019
we are being cheated again by "legal mafia" The Hague
30% creaming on animal rights on transfer? and then another 52% tax, then not left over from your accrued RIGHT. Your pension in a line!!! After remediation, 0 euros remains for the stopper.
AVZ 4 October 2019
And again the reward goes to those who haven't done anything yet.
And so a lot of capital would flow out of the sector again.
Predator 4 October 2019
It won't surprise me that sour ditch Remkes will take the fertilizer on the grain in the second advice
back cornerer 4 October 2019
It seems to me that banks are now going to buy up companies that want to stop so that agriculture does not give up anything for other sectors.
Jan Jansen 4 October 2019
On to the hague, whoever bounces can expect a ball!!!!!!!!!!
Jan Jansen 4 October 2019
Sorry I mean expect a BOER
back cornerer 4 October 2019
Also immediately at nos but just make it clear that we not only want negative reporting but also positive ones extensively in the new!
Very selective since van dam is there.
John 4 October 2019
'our farmer's daughter' cannot keep her back straight on any file. Mainly wants to 'help' to stop.
of platings 4 October 2019
And so we are slowly but surely moving towards the halving that they so desperately want. Just packaged slightly differently. This minister is just as bad as all her predecessors. This bitch is of no use to you as a farmer.
Jb 4 October 2019
Above in the related articles it says that we are under the phosphate and nitrogen ceiling August 20th that was well you have to see what happened now shame
south farmer 4 October 2019
Achterhoeker wrote:
Also immediately at nos but just make it clear that we not only want negative reporting but also positive ones extensively in the new!
Very selective since van dam is there.
Let LTO start by not showing up at Nieuwsuur for once for a change. It almost seems that LTO has eggs laying around. The performances are also a fiasco time and time again.
First Calon soils his own nest, then the afterwards incensed Mrs. Vedder has no answer to the NOS graphs, and to top it off Calon again sacrifices the companies against the EHS areas before 1 measurement has taken place. Soon the signatures will be under it and we will be able to take to the streets again to try to turn around a lost cause. Which file have we seen that before? History repeats itself, they say. Something with a donkey and a stone.....
Mind blow 4 October 2019
Psychopathic behavior is a disease, but we do have to deal with the consequences.
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Hendriksen 4 October 2019
Ladies and gentlemen.
There is only a 30% discount on external netting with ammonia/nitrogen rights.
With this transaction, the animal and phosphate rights that you have in your name on October 4 must be surrendered.
Phosphate rights and animal rights can simply be traded as before.
At both boerenbusiness and pigbusiness did not read or understand the letter from the ministry properly.

I quote:
The withdrawal of animal and phosphate rights in the event of external netting between private parties requires a change in the law, for which a proposal will be submitted in the very short term. To prevent entrepreneurs in the agricultural sector from selling their rights in anticipation of external netting, this will be based on the number of animal and/or phosphate rights registered in the name of the company with the Netherlands Enterprise Agency (RVO) on 4 October 2019. .
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Hendriksen 4 October 2019
The text has already been adjusted on pigbusiness.
External netting refers to an ammonia/nitrogen transaction.
Not on animal rights transactions.
Martin Otten 4 October 2019
Well .... I spoke to a respectable gentleman from outside our sector who spoke highly of "the decent part of the Netherlands" who has been in a neat way in The Hague to express that we now really do not agree with it. A new action is, it now seems, inevitable and no matter how difficult it is, it has to be neat again. The challenge now is to come up with something that is audience-friendly, maximally mediagenic and also outrageous. If the neat gentleman and many others can enjoy it again, the second action will also be a success.
peter 5 October 2019
30% Discount is not going to happen! The government gets to buy the 30% off the stopper! This would be nice to skim 30% off and give the construction industry sector for free!!
Ad baltus 5 October 2019
food distribution closed for 6-12 hours citizen is not bothered by driving not far, municipality/province closed houses, media that reports colored messages closed
Aalten 5 October 2019
Why such a popular title above this post, BoerenBusiness† Brings in some confusion.

There is only a new reference date for nitrogen, phosphate/animal rights when external netting is used. There is therefore no question of a new reference date for a 'permanent' company!

Concerning the skimming, I'm glad Hendriksen is reading well.
taeke 5 October 2019
If farmers and farmer's wife go abroad, she has to get food from abroad
Joost 5 October 2019
Why are you so angry now. This was already known on Tuesday.
Because many politicians, that moron of Wilders in the lead, shouted that farmers are heroes, everyone drove home happy with their belly full of syrup. Naive, naive, naive. amateurs.
I personally think that Schouten helped organize the demonstration and used a straw man from her college friends' club to ensure that the steam can be blown off once. She did a great job, she's smarter than you think.
Marie 5 October 2019
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. The guilty should not be rewarded, but pay off the debts.
jef 5 October 2019
What strikes me is that all the measures we have taken since the climate agreement have been forgotten for a while and we are now suddenly starting from a new reference date.
I think the message was that we had already done enough, and that the other sectors of the climate table are now on the move.
I think that a new demonstration should not only involve the farmers, but also the construction industry, or just anyone who disagrees with this government mismanagement.
shut down that trade, and new elections, with a new party that makes policy with a bit of sense, and does not run after the first animal activist.
peter 5 October 2019
@ Joost it just might be!
peter 5 October 2019
I think the best thing is that the hague goes back to the EU to renegotiate, in other words same standards as neighboring countries. Or like Trump getting out of the Paris climate agreement. And if the striking environmentalists DO NOT want that (which is their right), then the "striking environmentalists" will have to go public and BUY OUR rights!!!
peasant insylvia 5 October 2019
Farmers are already being approached here who are located right next to the rubbish heap 'Nauerna'. Under the smoke of industry and harbours, in sight of a huge mountain of waste with its accompanying traffic, and then being bought out because your cows poop just on the other side of the dike. Too bizarre for words. We want grazing because that is sustainable. We want environmentally-friendly and public-friendly stables. Well pay attention, they will soon be the first to be bought up and gone. I have yet to meet the first farmer who wants to trade with the sailing farmers from North Holland with orchids among the cows, but a piece of work. But indeed, can only be bad, those cows on that floating land....
peasant insylvia 5 October 2019
Has anyone been able to discover somewhere what it will mean for sheep farms and/or goat farms within the sphere of influence of acidification-sensitive areas?
Skirt 5 October 2019
The political chaos and administrative incapacity has now brought even the business community completely to its knees.
Environmental fanaticism has become a cancerous tumor.
Frans 5 October 2019
Tuesday had a nice school trip with all of us, but the lesson now continues. Already had a road builder at the door with an offer subject to legislation of several million euros and the land is still freely saleable. The show must go on! No protest from me against a reduction of the livestock and then all continue to suck. In a healthy economy, any farmer who earns less than a ton a year should quit. Do the math, 50 weeks x 50 hours of work x 40 euros. Which mechanic, construction worker, contractor can visit your yard for less than 40 euros? The coffee guzzling advisors even cost 100 euros and more via your feed invoice.
Truus 5 October 2019
30% discount. Just calculate. Normally €150 per kg. But now the 70% has to make up for the yield. So 1000 kg x €150 = 150000. Divide by 700 = €200. On top of that. The animal rights. South. €150. Total €350
A 5 October 2019
What strikes me are the dr errors
of the lake 5 October 2019
But let's dump tons of manure in The Hague.
And Amsterdam on the doorstep of clover.
sefO 5 October 2019
Every kg of nitrogen that is collected from the farmer is paid commercially, because this nitrogen is used for economic gain.
And there must be a parliamentary inquiry with the question, how are the hundreds of thousands of hectares maintained, is the dead material removed annually in a natural area as was previously mandatory, the total costs of this are. †
I am convinced that overdue maintenance is a bigger culprit than nitrogen also in nature some are stronger than others, and nature will also have to do its part and not, as it is happening now, keep buying and driving through it with a green jeep Years ago, considerable annual maintenance was carried out when the surface was still manageable and still quite affordable due to the fact that there was still a lot of production forest available at the time !!
Jp lapwing 5 October 2019
To measure is to know has never been applied in the nitrogen file
joop 5 October 2019
I follow the nitrogen story quite intensively, but everywhere I miss the contribution of the hobby kept animals. In recent years there has been an increase in horses and dogs in our area. These do their needs in the open air and have no facilities to limit emissions. The ditch in front of us grows completely closed with plants. The horses and dogs walk through nature and leave all excrement behind. I only hear the farmers say that they emit less. The RIVM does not agree with that. I wonder what that is, do you have an idea what the contribution of all stray hobby animals in the Netherlands is? Could you bring this up/investigate?
wim 5 October 2019
Not to mention the increased numbers of geese that pollute many waters and emit nitrogen.
12 geese equal to 1 cow
Bert 5 October 2019
Well read people and BoerenBussiness ,wrong translation.
jp 5 October 2019
Isn't it great that people in The Hague are so concerned about agriculture and that you don't hear anything about aviation and heavy industry... apart from billions in SDE for wood-fired biomass plants that emit giga nitrogen, but yes is the word "bio" in he... and I haven't even mentioned black pete, which toys you can still sell ect ect. What a puppet show, just increase that 0.05 mmol to 20 mmol as our neighbors have and our "accounting problem" is solved. Where is Lto in this whole story?????
sjakie 5 October 2019
also a question, what about the oostvaardersplassen with those cattle and that junk
I assume they will be cleaned up by rendac this week
because then you have a direct hit in those Natura 2000 areas
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smart ass 5 October 2019
just on the news 2 items about nature and dirty air, both were anti-boer.ze showed pigs in air pollution in Vlaardingen.
NOS makes propaganda for the left-wing gang
little bitch 5 October 2019
better a fart for everyone than a stomachache for me alone!!!
Herm 5 October 2019
Hi JP.
the link does work, keep your finger on the link a little longer then you will see that you can open or copy or send the link.
success

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t40rnXRe4LA&feature=youtu.be
peter 5 October 2019
When will LTO come up with a view on the nitrogen story presented?
joop 5 October 2019
It seems that the RIVM does not take into account the emissions of aircraft above 1000m in its reports.... politicians would not want to know that.... isn't that a bit strange.
The reports appear to be colored to suit The Hague.
If you want to tackle the keeping of animals... don't just take the professionals but also the hobby farmers, who pollute much more per animal.... People probably don't dare because that involves many more voters.

Herm 5 October 2019
We here in the Netherlands are completely destroyed by the left-wing parties, it is unimaginable.
it now also appears that most nitrogen comes from abroad,

https://www.dagelijksestandaard.nl/2019/10/het-is-allemaal-de-schuld-van-de-boeren-maar-een-derde-van-stikstof-is-afkomstig-uit-het-buitenland/
frits 5 October 2019
I propose to make the Hofvijver the largest manure basin in the Netherlands. Is to see if they are able to solve a real manure problem and not just the one from their paper reality.
howl 6 October 2019
what do you think of the oostervaarder urinating, I thought cleaning up all the animals that adds up an awful lot of kilos nh3 because that is just hitting heads with nails.
Thon 6 October 2019
How can one sink any deeper! A policy of lies and deceit?
sefO 6 October 2019
VVD and a large part of the left Netherlands have found each other, with completely different objectives but with a common enemy, VVD wants the space occupied by livestock farming and the left Netherlands wants to get rid of all animal farming.
How can you arrange that, simply you abuse nature and talk about a nitrogen catastrophe in the Netherlands and a child can do the laundry.
The Netherlands adhere to European standards and do not first destroy Dutch agriculture and everything associated with it.
70 cut back please 6 October 2019
And again all the money goes to intensive livestock farming

First invest against the rocks to start supplying on the free market. Up to their necks in shit and debt.
Then get a capital of phosphate rights for nothing.
And now a warm remediation.!!!!!




Career 7 October 2019
Why is everyone acting so pathetic
You are not obliged to stop. And if you do stop and you do not want to be cut, you can sell to another farmer (internally netting). The government would like to buy your company so they have to pay more than the going price. The 30% discount will only apply if you are going to sell to the government or outside the sector. Then you ask 143% of the market value and you are left with a nice 100%. So just briefly within the sector 100% and outside the sector ask 143%.
If you want to be collegial, you only sell within the sector.
Egbert 7 October 2019
In Australia they call the Netherlands crazy. More and more mouths to feed with less and less cultivated land.
Just raise the standard to the level of Germany or Belgium and the whole problem is over.
Can someone explain to me why it has to be so low?
Career 7 October 2019
Yes Egbert,

Because the nature reserves are small and very vulnerable.
In addition, the Netherlands has a neighboring country that also discharges a lot of pollution, which precipitates in our small country.
Christine 7 October 2019
It is not yet known how much money will be allocated for this.

It's money :)
NETWORK 7 October 2019
They haven't even given everyone an answer yet about how many phosphate rights some companies still need.
It will be even bigger chaos than it already is.
they need the extra money that becomes available in the hague to devise even more ruse and deceit.
First let's explain how they get this measurement data
shoemakers 1 7 October 2019
Dear Job, I have a plot of agricultural land, which the water board wants to use as a water storage facility, all the options I had to get away would have cost me at least 200.000 euros, why do I have a choice? Well, everyone involved was paid by the hour, I still had to do everything prodeo, even my legal advisor had to pay the court itself, and no, I haven't lost anything yet, just because I don't go along with their lies , but where does the theft end, Hitler was more honest, at least he made it clear who he wanted to get rid of, now your throat is quietly squeezed, they are perverts
peter 7 October 2019
the hague and frans carpenter want to use the new cap budget to implement their climate plans. We should not let this offer us all those lies and cookies of our own dough!!!

Necessity knows no law!!

It is a duty that every farmer YES, every farmer will take action and demonstrate until everything is flat, only then will a "legal mafia" see you as like-minded!!!
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