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CDA thinks towards D66: contraction of agricultural sector

7 November 2019 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 83 comments

The CDA is considering a change of course for Dutch agriculture and horticulture. According to the scientific institute of the political party, the farmer should get rid of bulk production, earn more money from quality products and get closer to the citizen.

The values ​​of sustainability and animal welfare and farmers' income must be more important than the ambition to remain the world's second-largest food exporter. in the 'Side by Side' report, a future perspective for the Netherlands in 2030. This report serves as a discussion paper at the CDA party conference next Saturday. 

The CDA committee that compiled the report believes that 'we should see farmers more as part of our living environment.' The committee sees Dutch farmers producing quality products in the future for the free world market and the local Dutch market. Locally, the party sees great benefit in a new form of cooperation that is aimed at farmer-citizen cooperation. 'The farmer sells directly to the citizens and the farm becomes an inspiring learning environment for young generations.' The CDA has probably looked at the concept here gentlemen farmers.

Connecting farmer and citizen
According to the party, citizens will thus be able to reconnect with their food source: the farmers. 'The advantages are countless: fair food from the own region, more biodiversity, less unwanted increase in scale and less food waste in a long food chain.' The CDA expects this approach to connect farmers and citizens is the approach it considers urgent issues: climate, food and agriculture.

Putting the CDA's plan into practice means that the entire Dutch food chain must be shaken up. Leonard Geluk, the chairman of the CDA committee, acknowledges that also in AD† “The focus in agriculture has long been on exports, economies of scale and profit maximization for intermediaries such as supermarkets. But if that comes at the expense of farmers' incomes and ecology, then something has to change.”

No agricultural influence
Implementing the plan also undeniably means a shrinkage of the Dutch livestock and agriculture. The CDA committee, which does not include a single agricultural representative, does not care about such statements. But the arguments of: opting for quality, producing for the local market, no longer wanting to be the second world exporter, combating unwanted economies of scale and balancing nature and agriculture, D66 MP Tjeerd de Groot undoubtedly sounds like music to our ears.

Behind the D66 position to halve the livestock, there is also a similar vision for Dutch agriculture. 'Earn more with less', is what De Groot calls it regularly. The substantiation of this, how the Dutch farmer can really earn a higher income in the Netherlands as part of a world market, is currently lacking at both the CDA and D66.

Current agriculture unsustainable
According to the CDA, the current structure of the Dutch agricultural chain is no longer tenable, the committee writes in the report. 'Animal welfare, the environment, animal health and nature must be brought into balance with economic earning motives. In order to achieve that balance, a complex regulatory system has been set up, which is hardly feasible for farmers and can certainly no longer be enforced. Many farmers experience this regulatory burden as a source of legal uncertainty and therefore feel less and less responsible for their own actions.'

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smart ass 7 November 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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also belgian 7 November 2019
Oh well, let's bring floppy chickens from Brazil.... What will consumers choose... Yep the cheapest... Bread as cheap as possible and games as expensive as possible politics has contributed to it itself... My neighbor prefers to go 5x when traveling by plane then a good plate of quality food that is too expensive... Bunch of idiots those politicians
Bob 7 November 2019
Next cabinet no CDA
young farmer 7 November 2019
How can you say that the Netherlands should make more quality products. While Dutch agriculture is a synonym for quality.
I want to be able to change my vote because I have not chosen this.
market 7 November 2019
okay so, according to these scholars, size is decisive for quality

I don't know what kind of virus is circulating in The Hague but it's really getting crazier
market 7 November 2019
okay so, according to these scholars, size is decisive for quality

I don't know what kind of virus is circulating in The Hague but it's really getting crazier
peasant bartje 7 November 2019
end cda
aria 7 November 2019
We don't export cheap bulk products, it's the other way around, we import them.
What hangs over our heads is about votes, not the truth anymore! Our sector employs approximately 500.000 people directly and indirectly, but we will see that again. Then who lives who takes care of dam.
peasant bartje 7 November 2019
So all the protests didn't help, they just go their own way
frog 7 November 2019
I voted for G.. for this party, but for Geert next time?
peta 7 November 2019
CDA has also become a party of gray mice who like to play rain and raise their fingers!
There is little common sense left in the party. Now what the new party is talking about peasant citizen embarrassment! Well the votes from the sector, 1/2 million, they have probably lost. Good luck, see who can fill that one seat in the room.
frog 7 November 2019
might be a nice idea to expropriate everything and make it all state-owned companies, or just like in Uganda give it back/take it back and give it to the citizens! everything is possible with the CDA, ps I now also know what that C stands for Communism instead of Christian
peasant 7 November 2019
Already canceled my membership this morning
ps 7 November 2019
Expected Shrinkage CDA D66 !!!!!!!
Skirt 7 November 2019
CDA is about corpses to get more on the plush.
Farmers put them in the garbage for their own gain.
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Frank 7 November 2019
End CDA! Elections very soon and FVD will make the biggest one!
Anyone can say what they think and they will come back!
Mart 7 November 2019
Also canceled my CDA membership.
Begin to seriously doubt the knowledge within the CDA; Jacco Geurt and Maurits von Martels is this also your opinion?
Reasoning in this way can only happen if a Nexit were to take place; is CDA for a Nexit?
Due to the various trade agreements between the EU and beyond, the Dutch market will remain open for foreign BULK products if no Nexit will take place. This will make it difficult to get a fair price for our QUALITY products. Let alone that we can still earn a living if the livestock has to shrink.
m. hellema 7 November 2019
Two questions and a comment:
- What do the farmers think about this, who have already embarked on this path themselves?
- Isn't it fine to take a critical look at the (in my opinion) bad role of supermarket chains?
- Care and education are also disturbed by new rules and changes in policy from politics. But now I sense the need to finally think about the long term: how we want to manage our food supply with less environmental damage.
Hermr 7 November 2019
In The Hague it is a clen that all but a few right-wing parties get together with each other, soon with elections they will again promise a word of everything criminal.
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Hendrik 7 November 2019
It is in the system and the citizen/consumer perception what the CDA also forgets. Citizens want green farmers, but as a consumer they buy cheap chicken feet from abroad full of water and medicines. As long as you keep the borders open for cheap foreign rubbish, consumers will not pay for a quality Dutch product. And you get the nonsense again that food is becoming too expensive and that people can no longer go on holiday to Australia. I wish the CDA every success with removing margin from supermarkets and shifting it to the farmer.
Eddy 7 November 2019
Time for a new political party
Henk 7 November 2019
The super art industry will NEVER let this happen. Dream On
Harm Michels 7 November 2019
I am still a farmer. Voted CHU/CDA for 57 years. That stops now!!!
Steven 7 November 2019
Circular agriculture and more expensive quality products cannot be afforded when we are the only country. The retailers always go for the highest margins and the cheaper abroad is close by.... This is only possible when compensation comes from the own government..... Until now we had to bear all the apparently useless innovative investments ourselves, so I expect that corner nothing....
frog 7 November 2019
soon they will sell their souls to the devil!
shoemakers 1 7 November 2019
clearly, the CDA also wants to throw the baby out with the bathwater, what a bunch of suckers
Ton Westgeest 7 November 2019
"The values ​​of sustainability and animal welfare and the income of farmers must be more important, says the CDA.....

That is why we prefer to allow an extra 50000 tons of chicken meat to enter the EU from the Ukraine without suffocating rules....
That's why we prefer to have hormones/antibiotics meat from South America, without suffocating rules....
That's why we kick the mink keepers out of the country....

Well done CDA... Yesterday I was at the state debate in The Hague, what ignorance, what a deeply sad display there!!

It was CDA, VVD, D66, CU, Green Left and the other left-wing clique against Forum for Democracy and PVV who still had the guts to submit a motion for the farmers.

I don't know what's behind it, more than I can possibly comprehend, but keep it up politics!!!

antje 7 November 2019
What a pity, voted CDA all my life, OVER. Shame on a committee without a representative from agriculture, first mistake, then the outcome. We have to go for quality, dear people, the quality is nowhere as high as here in the Netherlands, foreign countries want Dutch products.
if 7 November 2019
end cda

jpkievit 7 November 2019
The consumer only buys the supermarket bangers to recoup the cost price increasingly larger fruit growing company the farmers demonstration are only at the beginning see think tank cda
Bert 7 November 2019
I believe that 1% of all pigs in the Netherlands are organic, and if you consider that a large part of that is still exported to Germany because there is no market for it here! then you should stop telling such stupid stories quickly.
frog 7 November 2019
CDA: Communist Devils Viper Breed
Bart 7 November 2019
Why do I never hear D33 and now also CDA explain to the supporters that a consequence of these plans is that we go back to spending 20% ​​of disposable income on food instead of the current 10%? is this awareness simply not there or would it be because then the other voters will also walk away...?

Instead of reducing livestock numbers, they should advocate higher prices and no imports of products produced with less than equivalent requirements. Once this has been achieved, we will talk about reduction. This seems like the only correct order to me, but it probably won't fit the chronology of the political agenda.
Wim v/d mill 7 November 2019
Well Fam Holtrop where is your reaction from your CDA
Henri 7 November 2019
just canceled CDA membership, who's next?
Ark 7 November 2019
Always voted CDA this beats everything own supporters to the balls !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carine 7 November 2019
It's wonderful to see a committee from a scientific (!) institute that looks at a problem with an open mind and not hindered by any knowledge! Hurry up.

CDA wants to go from profit to value, we would rather go from value to profit.

We are already growing fair quality products, where does the committee do its shopping?

peter34 7 November 2019
VVD will applaud all those regretful optants. But be careful with the VVD you know where the big money goes.... the shareholders, for example of AH and other companies that need to be kept sweet. Watch out for those link michels. You can see this in recent Rutte cabinets. More and more rules, while the opposite was promised. But where to go? Because the PVV and FvD make all kinds of promises that cannot be fulfilled without a. an absolute majority and the NL membership of the EU remains intact. All those treaties that make life difficult for us can not just sweep the PVV or FvD off the table.
Carine 7 November 2019
Hilarious Bart's response at 14.36:33 pm! DXNUMX, made me laugh sick! Halving their numbers, great, let's keep that one in!
frog 7 November 2019
But where to go? How about Australia or Canada?
Aike Maarsingh 7 November 2019
Voted for chu-CDA for life. Very shocked by the news.
CDA must be a party for everyone except extremists,
climate dramamers, animal activists, nitrogen activists, pvas activists
etc. AND just do it and take a stand against these groups.
AND DON'T SEND THE FARMERS FROM THE PARTY!!!!!!!
OR HAS THE CDA ALSO LOST THE PATH???????
SATURDAY ALL TO THE CONGRESS.............
hosternokke 7 November 2019
CDA bunch of hypocrites immediately canceled membership, this club also has to be placed under guardianship, time for a psychiatric institution!
Ton Westgeest 7 November 2019
peter34 You now want to vote VVD.....

I will tell it again.....

It works like this!!! Once every four years you can indicate whether the government parties are doing well or not!! That's why they ask to vote.

If you don't vote, that's also possible, of course, then you don't indicate whether they did well or not well.....

Only if you're going to vote for the opposing party, it doesn't matter who, only then will they at least get nervous, and if everyone else is going to do that, only then will they change course.

So if you don't do anything, have you contributed to this arrogant mess going on like this!!!!

I know for myself that I did not participate in it, since Pim I have been voting against, that is a good feeling for me. But it won't help much if all naives just continue to support coalitions!!!
shoemakers 1 7 November 2019
and then there are also those imbeciles who say that you should only vote for the government parties, otherwise you will lose your vote
Bart 7 November 2019
@ Ton,

I wonder if you yourself understand how it works. If everyone votes against, they might change course, but it won't help you because they won't rule!

Besides... You don't support a Coalition, it is formed AFTER you cast your vote. To use your terms, the majority will always be "naive" because forming a coalition is driven by a majority.

The more we vote against the more left will benefit from this, divide and rule! I am convinced that the left-wing influences within the cabinet ensure that quite different views and statements are made. We must therefore ensure that this can no longer happen in the next cabinet and aim for a coalition of VVD, CDA (if they go back to normal) and FvD.
range 7 November 2019
Basically this is a thought to be rolled out further . However, in combination with CETA MERCOSUR and UKRAINE trade treaties discontinuation or in the making! Consumers are also obliged to buy 75% product from Dutch soil in the supermarkets, even if this is more expensive.
Pieter 7 November 2019
As farmers, we have already had two dry summers to choose from, also financially. So I started planting nut trees so that in 20 years the hunger trips across the EU people will have something to eat.

Think for a moment about the story of a king of Israel who is depressed in bed because his neighbor who apparently had a little paradise with a lot of attention, with his green fingers, just like many farmers, domesticate cows with great love.

Then everyone will know the end of this story that you as a real estate agent Rutte cannot mediate a spoiled child as a nature organization with the GroenLinks with impunity. Does CDA still have something with its roots?
Color 7 November 2019
Around 1934, during the crisis, Prime Minister Colijn was a member of a Christian party, his wife then explained on the radio how you could still make an excellent soup from fish heads, who would have used that fish backs, the guilder had to remain hard,
That's how it works, it's the economy that kills us, and once it gets stuck, we here in the Netherlands will pay more for our piece of meat, but what exported then
Jan Veltkamp 7 November 2019
In the car industry again 2 fairly large companies are joining forces to create more opportunities to keep their heads above water. Or should I ask for examples where downscaling has been beneficial. Certainly not with anything to do with government. Merging hospitals. Universities are growing and MBO schools have to merge. Energy sector is merging. And speaking of small: last week a trading company in organic food went bankrupt. Where does the idea that small farmers can make it come from? Anyone who thinks they know please respond because I don't even have a clue.
Joop 7 November 2019
They think we're exporting junk,
and that we have junk on our plates.
That we have bad animal welfare
and that we are bad for the environment.

If you know that we score very well on all these points and that we have a very efficient agricultural sector, this is unbearable.
no, they have no idea that we as Dutch farmers can produce super quality for a very reasonable price.

But a very logical step is if we start applying circular agriculture, we also have to leave the eu with immediate effect. After all, wasn't the eu so good for Dutch trade? If we don't have anything left to trade, we'd better do without that money-consuming organ (called eu) too!

With facts the farmers will stand.
Lies create revolt and rebellion can set in motion a revolution.
As long as you contribute to the state treasury. And for all keep your mouth shut, you can only demonstrate with your back against the wall.

Co2 = neutral is the agricultural sector.
Nitrogen = NH3 is heavy and mainly decreases to 90% on own land, fields even bind nitrogen that is not produced by the farmer. Nox is much more harmful!!!
Biodiversity = the farmer is the last to want it lost. But governments can start by leading by example! For example, setting up the Malieveld as a flower garden. But also use useless roadsides for that. Not just before the clovers start mowing!
Water consumption = as long as we have to pump millions of liters of fresh water into the sea every year, I think we should not worry about that.
Ton Westgeest 7 November 2019
Disagree with you Bart. I have many acquaintances who vote for VVD and CDA, perhaps not so strange here in Wassenaar, but when these parties are back in power you hear them complain all the time.

Then my reaction is you should vote them away:, "yes, but my parents always voted VVD or CDA". Then you shouldn't cry...

By coalition I mean of course the sitting parties, but of course you understood that .... but ff biting is fun.

And then, that the left will benefit from this.... if enough people vote for the right, it will pass. And if Forum or Wilders gets enough votes, they MUST participate.

The people that are there now are so arrogant that they ignore democracy.

Yesterday I was at the state debate in The Hague about nitrogen all day. There were at least ten speakers, colleagues from all over, some were very emotional. When you see how it is handled, your pants really drop off....

There were only two parties that stood up for us....Forum and PVV and that's why they definitely get my vote!!

Do what you have to do with voting, but don't complain. We now know that if these coalition parties can continue, then it will be a run for agriculture......

Just look at the pact, which Rutte has concluded with Jesse, that Groen Links agrees everything with the VVD as long as half of the farmers are cleaned up......

And you are not so naive that Rutte does not carry it out with a smiling face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
summer 7 November 2019
It's unbelievable. Cheap rubbish enters our country and that is not even checked for banned substances, we will not talk about animal welfare, and then we have to downsize!! RIDICULOUS. I hope Caroline vd Plas is ready when voting again
has 7 November 2019
I hope the government collapses before there are n rules.
Big William 7 November 2019
CDA has been untenable for a long time
Jan chop 7 November 2019
CDA even further away from its foundation.
Sung away from any sense of reality towards a further false religion “climate” as a sacrificial bloc.
Politicians are REDUCED, farmers & citizens REDUCED and soon our country REDUCED.
Those who do not know their history and reason for existence (anymore) are doomed to disappear.
Of which Steenkamp-Acte.
Glass 7 November 2019
I would like to see the authors of the report by name and then I hope that they will all be expelled as members of the CDA
This could be a proposal this Saturday
jpkievit 8 November 2019
If every day 5 farmers do not find a successor, the CDA will know exactly where their victims are, but there is a solution sgp Christenunie and CDa will establish a Christian customer base in 25 years 1 seat
batman 8 November 2019
I hope very soon there will be a deeper recession than in 1929/1939 a general reset of all this crazy country. Just let the citizens come and beg for food with handcarts and then we farmers will decide on the basis of their political preference whether they get something to eat or not.
Ton Westgeest 8 November 2019
Jan Veltkamp,
Where does the idea that small farmers can make it come from?

A counter question: Where does that idea come from that big ones can make it?
Everything that is large is becoming less flexible, look at large municipalities, look at Europe with 28 and soon 35 states, of course that also works for large farmers, even more dependent on the market, on staff and on the bank.

Too big doesn't work anymore, that's the danger with a growth economy. Unwieldy bodies, you see it everywhere, in the first place requires a lot of knowledge and skill. The leadership that has grown it saves most of it....but then there comes a time when they start cashing in and that's when the trouble usually starts!

Therefore you can grow but purposefully and always with in mind, what do I want? do I want the bank to be the boss? and do I want it to grow so big, so that my successor doesn't know what to do with it?
Not for nothing the proverb:
'The first generation builds the company, the second generation makes fortunes and the third spends everything…' so no longer goes…
Frans 8 November 2019
Small or large does not matter, but a farmer as a full-time entrepreneur has to make at least a ton of profit per year with good results. If this year the small pig farmer makes a ton of profit and the large one million euros, that should be normal. I am for change. As an arable farmer or dairy farmer, sucking for a minimum hourly wage is no longer of this time.
Shaking exchange 8 November 2019
First export the entire agricultural production for a while! Apparently our export markets do value the products.
According to the 8 November 2019
How sad is this. Voted CDA all my life. But now they are very far from the path. As beautiful as it sounds, it will come down to destroying the sector. Instead of considering whether the current nature policy can survive, the decision is made to demolish the economy. Very sorry this. Will have to choose another side.
Jan Jansen 8 November 2019
Cancel all membership of the CDA I've already done this, no members is no money, no money is no power, no power is gone party
agripower 8 November 2019
I have already canceled the pzc newspaper ... and explained to him that he should write in his newspaper .every week where and in which country there is constant hunger .... THAT UNDERSTOOD IN ONE TIME WHY FARMERS NEEDED BEING IN A COUNTRY......
of platings 8 November 2019
So, after all these years you are finally awake! Very late. So it's your own fault that this country is being screwed up like this. I've been voting right since Pim and they will soon be running the tent, it can't get any worse than now.
Anja 8 November 2019
@ Farmer Bart. You write the demonstrations have helped nothing. They just go about their business. I feel bad to read this. I sincerely hope that our farmers will stand up for themselves and the country after all.
Market 9 November 2019
frog wrote:
CDA: Communist Devils Viper Breed
The land reforms are still going with compensation. This collectivization goes on later when the money runs out (with this policy that goes fast) without compensation or even with executions! Plenty of examples from the past, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Eastern Europe, Soviet Union, China. Now the Netherlands?
Kees 9 November 2019
If you call this the Christian sound of the new CDA, I have serious doubts about that.
Joost 9 November 2019
In 1990 and 91 we already led the way in tractor campaigns in The Hague with the slogan Christian Deathstroke for Agriculture.
We knew then that livestock farming would only come to the realization decades later that the CDA is indeed the breeding ground of the devil.
I commend the day when this finally happens, hallelujah.
Now the Great Demolition of our society can finally begin.
Willingly will not go any more, only unwillingly.
First and foremost the politicians on the sacrificial bloc, then the civil service. Actually the entire Randstad, except for a single enlightened soul.
Clean up that mess and start over.
Ton Westgeest 9 November 2019
I've been warning about this for years with this politics.......Anarchy!
In the beginning I was laughed away, now the laughter quickly diminishes.

Clothing stores are looted, groups attack each other, cables are cut, everything protests, civil servants determine everything, in politics everyone lies to each other, just at the VVD alone, eight people have been forced to leave because of corruption and lying. And it just goes on....

WUR, WOCD, RIVM, etc. with manipulated research, the population is misled and pitted against each other. In the agricultural sector, with the help of the left-wing media and false figures, everything and everyone is incited against each other.

Two very different nitrogens are compared and exchanged, which have nothing to do with each other. We are destroying an entire sector......

And the politics?? They keep throwing money at them for all fun and left-wing hobbies!!! Money for extra planes, no money for education! Money for new nature reserves, no money for health..... How long will this go well??

Minority/activist groups are in power. They just come on your property, in your stable and on your property. There is hardly any punishment.....

The fact that so many citizens support the farmers is not because they like the farmers so much. No, most of the Dutch also feel caught by the government and lied to!!

It seems because of no vision in the government and no policy at all, let alone enforce, the end is missing! So make sure you have a baseball bat next to your bed......

It will be every man for himself and God for us all!!!
tinke 9 November 2019
Road with CDA to a farmer's party
Frosty 9 November 2019
CDA: "Christian" (hmm) stupid and underhanded.

whatever is possible

chaotic of think tank backstabbing.

in flanders we also have (had) a party like this

CD and V: Christian (hmm) stupidest Flemish
Fries 9 November 2019
For the umpteenth time: the Netherlands as a small country, 2nd exporter of agricultural products is unsustainable.
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Roy 9 November 2019
@Fries the biggest nonsense there is. The Netherlands earns its money through re-export and export. People who talk like you want the Netherlands to become impoverished. We deliver quality products and animal welfare comes first here. What else do you want??
shoemakers 1 9 November 2019
Fries thinks, if I repeat something often enough, I may start to believe in it myself, but most Friesians have more sense than you
W Bemelmans 11 November 2019
What has all the driving with the tractor yielded so far?
In The Hague they hear you nod and agree with you. if you
but go home again. you see what they all eat
VVD alone already sent away 8 of those bags of fillers and that's how they are
all only with elections they promise mountains of gold.
Rutte who takes the crown that's the biggest cheater out there
we still get a lot of money from it, but he leaves with the next one
elections laughing at Brussels, and here we can suffocate.
and just deal with those left-wing slippery slopes.
summer 12 November 2019
Have a look at the BoerBurgerBeweging website.
A good alternative to the CDA!!!
Joep 14 November 2019
The tone of the contributions is not very constructive and betrays a considerable lack of realism. It is reminiscent of a game of pissing in rudeness.
Unless a Nexit, NL is bound by all kinds of treaties with the EU. They cannot just be thrown overboard.
I am quite anti-EU, but apparently the majority of the population is not, so all those rules still apply. We did not come up with the PAS standards and measures ourselves, those were the people in Brussels who rule over us. They are anonymous civil servants with no feeling for the situation in NL/ordinary people, who are there for their own career and gain. That's how reality works.
That is why there is a Brexit and I wish the British good luck and prosperity with that.
(Pim) FvD and PVV don't prepare anything unless they get a majority on their own. And the odious left-wing bloc is too big for that.
shoemakers 1 14 November 2019
I have nothing against the eu, the eu does not ask for as much nonsense as the Netherlands thinks up, I would be in favor of dismantling the municipalities, province, water board and government in the Netherlands, it would save quite a lot of money, and they all do it anyway a little bit of what needs to be done from Brussels, so closing that trade is cheaper and easier
Ton Westgeest 14 November 2019
The tone of the contributions is not very constructive

Joep, I've read your post twice and, if it's just me, I can't find anything constructive in it either. Just a summary of what's above.
What is your solution then???? So we can move on.

RIVM: all farmers gone, then there is still a nitrogen problem!
From 130 km to 100 km per hour is 0,2% of the problem.
So we're not going to solve it here.

1) Working with different figures and a different calculation model.
2) Give nature a different status. The status of park, whatever it actually is.....

I only see two options, but I'm terribly curious about what others see for solutions....

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Ivo 14 November 2019
Just this: When Brussels set out the directions for Natura 2000 areas, the Dutch government was there like the chickens and has submitted no fewer than 162 Natura 2000 areas. This alone shows, of course, how brainless and ignorant those lazy are. But to make matters worse, they also have the conditions; those set by Brussels were raised on their own (of course controlled by the left green). That it has now become such a huge mess in our small country is of course 200% the fault of the VVD and CDA. In the end, these were the parties that should have known better; they are parties that show no color and go completely with the left. Hopefully they don't get another chance to destroy more. I don't think the cabinet will make it to the end of the ride (I hope). So literally ignore these two at the next election
Jan 15 November 2019
Wishing this cabinet away, but then not whining again when the coalition of GroenLinks, SP, PVDA and PVDD is established.
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Roy 16 November 2019
Fortunately, such a cabinet will never come about. Those leftist ideas are already destroying the whole country. They are better off wasting money.
Money that entrepreneurs are not allowed to earn. Spending money alone never lasts long. And if you vote PVDD, you have little to do with people and the fellow human beings, it seems to me.
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