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Schouten: 'We decide who we talk to'

5 February 2020 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 22 comments

Agriculture Minister Carola Schouten has suspended consultations with the Agricultural Collective for the time being. She is not pleased with the threatening language in a press release from Farmers Defense Force (FDF). In addition, the minister believes that she is free to talk to whomever she wants. 

In the press release, FDF announced have strong indications that Schouten is in talks with the parties in the chain, behind the back of the Agricultural Collective. It literally says: "Strong signals have come in that Schouten is calling the periphery for audience. The meat bosses, the dairy bosses, the feed farmers, the bankers and even the established order." In the press statement, FDF also threatens that if the periphery makes a deal with Schouten, the people in question will be 'out'.

Calls suspended 
Initially, Schouten and Prime Minister Mark Rutte were supposed to have a meeting with the Agricultural Collective this afternoon, but that has been cancelled. In view of the threatening language in the press statement of FDF, which is part of the Agricultural Collective, a conversation was not possible, according to a spokesperson for Schouten.

Tonight the Agricultural Collective will discuss how to deal with the situation that has arisen. The cabinet wants to talk further when FDF swallows the press statement again. The board of Farmers Defense Force informs its followers that the Agricultural Collective will not be separated. "Don't worry, the collective is stronger and is above it," the board reported in an app group on social media to questions from followers.

No excuses
FDF chairman Mark van den Oever says on the De Telegraaf website that Schouten does not have to count on an apology for the time being. "We sometimes use harsh words. If Schouten and Rutte can't stand that, they are delicate souls." Van den Oever says he is fine with the postponement of the consultation, as the Agricultural Collective is eagerly looking forward to the Mesdag Dairy Fund's calculations of the RIVM nitrogen data, a presentation of which is scheduled for 20 February.

Jeroen van Maanen, who conducts discussions with Rutte and Schouten in the Agricultural Collective on behalf of FDF, says in the same article that he was surprised by the statement of his own organization. He was not aware of that. On NPO Radio 1, Van Maanen indicated that he understood the warning addressed to the chain parties, regardless of the language used. He refers to the phosphate rights system. "There, the dairy industry has started to play a role in implementing and monitoring the rights. We now want to prevent such a situation."

In conversation with chain parties
According to the spokesperson, the cabinet is in talks with other chain parties. "The cabinet talks with the Agricultural Collective about nitrogen reduction, but also with other organizations. We are free to do so. When we talk about circular agriculture with chain parties, for example, it sometimes also concerns nitrogen reduction. Both topics overlap."

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Ton Westgeest 5 February 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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Schouten: 'We decide who we talk to' Of course it is, but now finally stop pretending!! I already knew it in advance, talking does not help, driving on the road with tractors does not help, there is just a second agenda behind it.....

If you think you can just buy away half of the farmers and think you can just build houses again and grow airports or open new airports......

If you give 11,5 billion in subsidies to biomass when the whole world knows that it is wrong, both for CO2 targets and for health reasons...

If you make full cuts to crucial things in society, such as health care, care for the elderly, care for the mentally handicapped and education, and you think you can get away with that....

If you warmly remediate 5000 people at taxes with tax money and think that it can remain without consequences....

If you extend market forces in all facets, also with parties where everyone is of the opinion that you should keep it in your own hands, such as in the pharmaceutical industry....

If you think that if something goes wrong, you can class it as selective memory loss, even if it kills 70...

If you believe that if something goes wrong at the ministries, it can simply be adjusted at the WODC, RIVM and WUR by the minister or state secretary.....

If that is the VVD/Green Left plan...... If you think that the Netherlands will continue to run, then just do it.!!!
You just make a joke and a joke and we'll vote for you again!!!!!
hans 5 February 2020
A fox loses her hair, but not her tricks.
And whoever is closest to the fire warms up best.

As always "the sector" will survive, and some will survive very well, but on the side of the ground troops the sacrifices will be considerable.
Jan 5 February 2020
No war so fierce that there will be soldiers left. Many farmers are doing well, do not worry about nitrogen and at most give a tractor to their children on a school trip to The Hague.
Bob 5 February 2020
There is no other option than to close the distribution centers and not deliver our products, if necessary only for foreign countries (China)
ewald 5 February 2020
no jan Wrong!!!
it is not like that there are no soldiers left in this way disgusting this is every farmer's business everything goes to the mallemoer. If you think this is a school trip you are wrong. whole generations and families are being destroyed this has to stop very quickly the agro sector is the backbone of the entire economy but this is being pretty much killed
willie van gemert 5 February 2020
The press release has already achieved its goal, everyone has been warned and for that group counts: whoever fits the shoe puts it on and everyone else in that group can ignore this press release, it was not intended for them. After Feb 20. explain / nuance things from the press release and simply rejoin LC in which FDF played the pioneering role in the establishment of LC.
Thanks again to FDF for that role.
Piet 5 February 2020
Quite right Jan, most farmers barely know what it is about and farmers continue on. Don't think that nothing ever happens in other sectors. Otherwise, sell the toko and go do something beautiful. There really is more than just farming.
old hand 5 February 2020
Well done Minister. Blackmail and threats should not be rewarded. We farmers used to consult based on facts. Today's farmers have made dirty hands. Go you have to rinse. enough
??? !!! 5 February 2020
If we need to talk about agriculture (or any lateral involvement with regard to agriculture), there is one party: Agriculture Collective.

Apparently this government is not aware of that.

FDF well seen, well done!


Rutte only apologizes that they are overplaying their hand.
Not? also fine:

1) tip the rotten apples from the agribusiness/agricultural collective.
2) from 21 February, when the report of the reports is available; NL flat until cabinet has fallen.

Jos 5 February 2020
Well done FDF finally a party that has balls that one that has faith in politics I say wake up
baby 5 February 2020
FDF go on like this it has to be like this, otherwise nothing will remain even though some farmers think so.
stoffel 5 February 2020
It looks like the Chinese government is going
also work in this way.
Cees 5 February 2020
"Talk, talk to whoever I want" Says Schouten. Can she talk? She doesn't want to talk to the farmers. Much is said but little is said. It's been like that for months. And Rutte doesn't do you much either.
What is going on?
The government can do anything, the citizens must give in.
Then it is FMD, then chickens, goats, pigs and even deer that have to pay for it, with all kinds of nonsense diseases. for animals. If the government is unstoppable, the Netherlands will go to hell! (And the farmers).
Government break that knot and solve the problem!
However, there is no nitrogen yet. Otherwise we would have been dead long ago.
The word of 2019. NITROGEN.
Really crazy.
Finally wipe those stupid rules off the table governments, the problem is solved.
Because you don't know a solution for this.
And now really talk to the right people!
#prouddeboer
Farmer and farming strength.
When I eat I think of julie.
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peter 5 February 2020
Consultation agricultural collective with Rutte and Schouten has been canceled by the cabinet. Rutte was reasonable against Dijkhuizen and demanded an apology about communication from Farmers Defense Force.
Rutte said "that LC cannot continue without FDF."
Aalt Dijkhuizen then said: "Mr Rutte, you have a coalition of 4 parties and I have 13. There is something in every coalition. Yours was a party that announced halving the livestock as a wish/solution for the nitrogen crisis. was not a government policy, nor do you expel that party from the coalition.

#carolavirus
Geertruid 6 February 2020
"Rutte wants to speed up" Bales that FDF is running into him... this file should have been completed before Feb 20.
But it will have to be done like this (FDF), because politics and journalism stick their head stubbornly in the (kind-2000) sand. Clinging to the delusion that farmers would destroy nature. Nature-loving parties should be ashamed of themselves: who has the guts to put the spoiled and overconsumer Dutch on hold?! What a mess flows into the house and factory drains every day! VVD does not want anything else, but those (s) lefts???
Nitrogen from agriculture? Diversion maneuver! FDF senses very well that a completely different game is being played with us!
RWillem 6 February 2020
You decide who you talk to. WE determine our business partners! Warned company counts for 2!!!
Dirk 6 February 2020
In the meantime, FDF has already gone through the dust and apologized on its knees. Was also very clumsy on the news that Van Maanen did not know which letter his board had sent out.
old hand 6 February 2020
I keep reading about 'leftists', people, you don't have those anymore, this is something from the last century. In what time are you still living. Come up with something new, something original, humor and innovations.. That way you don't get old, especially not with a nitrogen layer on your skin. Buy massage oil. from Kneipp..I am 84 years and February 20, 85.
common sense 6 February 2020
The Dutch pay these sick ministers from The Hague who decide for themselves who they talk to, Rutte runs away, our democracy is dead:

Van Nieuwenhuizen has not shared calculations about Lelystad Airport with the House of Representatives, the outcome has not been made public: BASIS OF NITROGEN PROBLEM!!!

FROM OUR MONEY WHILE WE WORKED FOR THEM, OUR DEMOCRACY WILL GET BONED AND FREEDOM FIGHTERS LIKE TRUMP, THEO VAN GOGH, PIM FORTUYN TRUCK THE NECK!


The British have their country, their identity back and we can do it with the European cultural shroud of rutte to divide and rule cultures, an irreversible eternal Shame!
The raw fruits of The Hague. 6 February 2020
besides humans and animals parasitic prof. drs. social historians

no Bayer lobbyist who has a pesticide for this
Carola Ruth 6 February 2020
I don't want to talk to people like that, those rascals. Go rinse your mouth and sleep off your intoxication. You are not at all inhibited by common sense.
The raw fruits of The Hague. 7 February 2020
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