Interview Jeroen van Maanen

'Minister promises a lot, but delivers very little'

1 April 2020 - Wouter Baan - 30 comments

The discussions between the Agricultural Collective and Minister Carola Schouten about the nitrogen approach ran on the rocks today (April 1)† Jeroen van Maanen, spokesman for Farmers Defense Force, was there as a member of the delegation of the Agricultural Collective. He tells what it is about. "Should we still put energy into this or should we throw a bomb under it?"

How disappointed are you?
"Heavily disappointed, although the rigid attitude of the cabinet did not come as a surprise. Somehow you keep hoping that an agreement will be reached. We have worked hard over the past few months and put in a lot of time, but unfortunately without result. The talks were sometimes certainly positive, but promises are not translated into deeds. This minister promises a lot, but delivers very little. And that makes you grumpy in the long run."

De commitments made in December have been done, turn out not to be worth a penny. What does it get stuck on?
"On many points. How to deal with external netting, so that no nitrogen space flows away from the agricultural sector. The cabinet has expressed the intention to prevent companies from being bought up unchecked, but in the meantime the province of Noord-Brabant is doing so. the consultations showed that Schouten still wants to make protein-poor feed mandatory for everyone via an Emergency Act. We find that unacceptable. Schouten does not like the three-track policy, as we propose it in dairy farming, either. She raises all kinds of legal objections on this point. The nitrogen reduction that pig farming has already achieved is also is insufficiently rewarded, we think."

Are there any points where you can find each other?
"Yes, there are. Schouten says that she wants to put an end to the licensing obligation for grazing and fertilising. However, even at this point it remains a matter of commitments and intentions. The results are not forthcoming. Unfortunately."

Has it been discussed today that nitrogen emissions in the Netherlands have fallen significantly since the corona measures?
"Yes. The measurements of the RIVM are positive for agriculture. We have therefore asked the minister to use part of this 'corona nitrogen' (estimated 1 kiloton) for the nitrogen problem. This buys you time to make a good plan. Schouten is not enthusiastic about this, however, and warns us that other sectors may then turn against agriculture.

Have the talks finally ended?
"At the moment, yes. The consultations with the provinces will continue. We once started by presenting a total plan. However, the cabinet sees more in 'cherry picking', but in our opinion far too much water will be added to the So the attitude of the cabinet has to change drastically in order to reach an agreement."

Are the 13 parties within the collective still on the same page?
"Absolutely. Everyone is now consulting their own supporters to look for a solution. We do ask ourselves whether we should put more energy into it or whether we should throw a bomb under it. But what next? I would not know."

In the meantime, Farmers Defense Force is considering farmer protests again?
"Certainly. But we do not yet know in what form. The farmer's protests that we have conducted in recent months are not going because of the corona measures. Today, many companies are also in 'survival mode' due to the corona crisis. Many farmers have other urgent needs. things on their minds, so we look at the situation from day to day."

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Wouter Baan is Head of Meat & Dairy at BoerenbusinessAt DCA Market Intelligence, he focuses on dairy, pork, and meat markets. He also monitors (business) developments within agribusiness and interviews CEOs and policymakers.
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30 comments
Martin 1 April 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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Rutte says money is not a problem, but he fucks everyone //////
Bout 2 April 2020
Carola shows character. Covid-19 has not solved the ammonia problem, delay is not desired. So take the bull by the horns. Ammonia makes the Coronavirus grow and flourish, resulting in even more deaths, which in turn leads to a drop in demand and lower milk prices. The negative spiral must be reversed.
tinus 2 April 2020
just plan action with 1 person per tractor max...
Roy 2 April 2020
Bolt? If you don't have a brain, will you shut up?
Henk 2 April 2020
Ruth is doing great!
??? !!! 2 April 2020
Henk wrote:
Ruth is doing great!
How did Mark say that: "this is by far the biggest crisis during my premiership"

Bravely, though, dismissing the dangers of the global virus infection and the ensuing financial depression as 'minor suffering'.
until here and no further 2 April 2020
Yes, Rutte is doing fine, just like his NSB grandfather he destroys everything that is good
Henk 2 April 2020
until here and no further wrote:
Yes, Rutte is doing fine, just like his NSB grandfather he destroys everything that is good
The world doesn't just revolve around the farmers!
How Rutte is in the corona crisis is great.
Great statesman, chapeau!!
has 2 April 2020
not supplying milk for a while.
until here and no further 2 April 2020
Rutte not only destroys agriculture, but everything that is good
Roy 2 April 2020
Rutte is destroying the sector, wasting our money and saying with a smile on his face everything will be fine. Action is necessary.
Geertruid 2 April 2020
Disgusting. Because the corona suffering showed itself so quickly, especially in the big cities, it suddenly appears that the Netherlands has a statesman (???!) Half Groningen collapses, half the countryside is allowed to rot, but where was that "statesman"?! And yes, suddenly the VVD is doing well in the polls... Remember the countryside: it will be a major concern for politics, that area outside the city. You use that area for recreation for the urban dweller and as a winning region.
Rutte is doing well, helped by the corona misery...
And (s)left you hardly hear, because they are served at their beck and call.

Deeply sad, List and Deception firm! Shame on you Carola, disgusted by your correct posturing! You consciously choke us!! It will certainly serve a higher purpose... but the truth/what really matters will kill you. Politics is separate from God!!
Jar 2 April 2020
tem wrote:
not supplying milk for a while.
Just do it, no problem! Start an action.
steadfast 2 April 2020
How naive and stupid are you if you trust the government? The plan had long since been forged and the corona talk is useful to the government; now they can carry out all the plans urgently, and they do. While attention is being diverted to the corona event - which is certainly greatly exaggerated and may well be on purpose... - 5G is being installed at a rapid pace, logging continues at a brisk pace, farmers are robbed of land and the North Sea is filled with windmills. Wake up and take action!! The government + europe have very different plans (including www.tristatecity.nl) than they publicly announce. There is much, much more behind it! The Netherlands will largely become a city + solar meadows and windmills; nature makes way for parks and agriculture is moved to Ukraine, among other places. Why do you think Poland and Hungary are getting a lot of money now? Because 'Europe is afraid that both countries will leave the EU AND because it is very likely that agreements have been made to let Polish workers do the job of installing the solar parks and windmills in the Netherlands, oh yes, at the moment it is already the Poles who install the 5G masts > no Dutch company wants this on its conscience.... Tough actions have become necessary to turn the tide because it has been proven time and again that the government will not listen anyway (just look at the many petitions signed with which the government has not acted (CETA, 5G, EU association agreement with Ukraine, etc.)). If we all keep saying 'yes and amen' to this government (and that of 'Europe'), the disaster is incalculable and we become slaves (that many companies are now going bankrupt, the government is very good ... those ex-entrepreneurs become even more dependent on the government in this way). When the farmers start to demonstrate again - also in the form of not delivering food > many people from the big cities support the parties that implement these strange plans, so if they also suffer from hunger, the rest of the Netherlands will have to join and stand behind the farmers. If necessary, act hard if the government also wants to do that..... It is not too late yet, but time is running out!
JGP 2 April 2020
Indeed Steadfast is right, TIME RUNS !!!
John Veltkamp 4 April 2020
Rutte's policy is fine????? It's ridiculous. In China, the virus has turned out to be so aggressive that people literally and figuratively dropped dead on the street. And then Rutte comes with the message "wash your hands". That with a lung infection. That's like thinking you can fight venereal disease with mouthwash. Last night there was another blunder on the news, this time from WHO. First say that mouth caps don't help. Then follows the message that WHO will conduct research into the effect of face masks. In other words, our leaders and scientists have learned absolutely nothing from the outbreak in China. Just sitting on their ass and filling pockets. Perhaps we think that if the old people die en masse, the pension funds will recover much more easily and we can also reap a bonus from that. I know, a very bad thought, but the policy does lead in that direction.
paul 4 April 2020
Jan Veltkamp wrote:
Rutte's policy is fine????? It's ridiculous. In China, the virus has turned out to be so aggressive that people literally and figuratively dropped dead on the street. And then Rutte comes with the message "wash your hands". That with a lung infection. That's like thinking you can fight venereal disease with mouthwash. Last night there was another blunder on the news, this time from WHO. First say that mouth caps don't help. Then follows the message that WHO will conduct research into the effect of face masks. In other words, our leaders and scientists have learned absolutely nothing from the outbreak in China. Just sitting on their ass and filling pockets. Perhaps we think that if the old people die en masse, the pension funds will recover much more easily and we can also reap a bonus from that. I know, a very bad thought, but the policy does lead in that direction.
We now turn to the experts....
Stock bump VVD 5 April 2020
mr. drs. BJ (Bruno) Bruins managed to play us and left, without the necessary stock of medicines as recommended many times by the working industry and completely dependent on China for our medication. Media calls Bruno dutiful.

https://tvblik.nl/zembla/medicijnmacht-china-tijdens-de-coronacrisis

We can take a beating according to our leader suddenly takes on a special meaning. Apart from the unknown consequences of G5 radiation, driving 100 for forgotten standards and inspecting Chinese masks afterwards, there are people who say that this party is doing fine, and glorify their leader (once again):

Farmers First, Population Next.
shoemakers1 5 April 2020
Yes, I really don't understand what Rutte does right, that man piles up wrong on wrong, the only thing he does right with his blunders is to play the people so well that they still believe him too, what a misfit
common sense 5 April 2020
What the VVD does very well is to fool us.
(with Wilders as Rodeoclown to ridicule problems)

Now that tax collectors have to work for a living and be held accountable, these are the ideas of an emperor without clothes, elected for subsidy and "arrangements".

everything has been given away, waiting for the hot spots is refugee camps as a VVD solution to the cultural problems of the already enslaved population as a first step for our culture

People's Party for Freedom and Democracy
Hollander 5 April 2020
Schouten is the umpteenth emissary of EU rules makers:
Divide and conquer has had its day: Corona turns everything around.

Farmers defense force is a network of people, our ministers are words for money with a transitional arrangement to run away: If a farmer comes to his bank with this, he has lost his property.
Food is power and become more powerful: Schouten is playing with fire.

Undermining a strong network of farmers instead of "big farmers to blackmail" policies has not yet destroyed our culture like the ridiculous pyramid of our medical facilities (infinite block tower hague toddlers)

Contrary to what we must believe, farmers are stronger than EVER.

1 week of milk in the ditch and we have our democracy back.
Subscriber
Ivo 5 April 2020
MR Rutte: Promising a lot and giving nothing makes the madman live in joy. Men really don't think those guys are going to do anything for us; no not at all . They can't do that at all because they will need that money hard enough to ensure that it does not burn down completely in southern Europe and then I doubt whether that will work. In their view we are of minor importance as an agriculturalist and therefore expect that we will have to solve it ourselves before good and bad things go . I hope it's not too bad, but I'm expecting the worst.
Karel 6 April 2020
The government is being blackmailed by Dutch lobbyists with job losses, European banks with countries without equity gain their country by means of out of the blue standards.

this is the signature of europe

There is only 1 answer to this: Nexit.
Hans 6 April 2020
So just VVD again unless a Christian culture rises from the dead (if Islamic culture refugees want to vote for it)
Pete 7 April 2020
What does a historian do in politics?

Simply repeating history through popular manipulation:

https://www.vn.nl/eindelijk-wil-nederland-geregeerd-worden/


insane article from the NR
Albert 7 April 2020
Just wait until the future doesn't repeat itself.
bert 8 April 2020
Why do we expect everything from the government? We are free entrepreneurs!
shoemakers1 9 April 2020
Bert, to what extent are we free, I feel quite a bit of pressure to comply with everything, the only thing we are free to take is the risk, the rest is determined by the officials who do not understand anything, but do have various unworkable rules allowed to impose
Stitch news 9 April 2020
Newsreader Rutte will simply inform us again that nitrogen standards will not change, that he was also disappointed and that he would have liked to have seen it differently. THIS IS HOW OUR COUNTRY IS GOVERNED.

And every farmer votes VVD again.
News reader Rutte Zegt 9 April 2020
I would like to see it differently.
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