Remkes invites colorful company for conversation

Seeing Blind 26 July 2022

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Skirt 26 July 2022

I wonder which slackers want to talk to him. In any case, the Rabo, he is already crawling away like a Judas.

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peta 26 July 2022

kjol wrote:

I wonder which slackers want to talk to him. In any case, the Rabo, he is already crawling away like a Judas.

Rabo is already preparing for a role in the new world of the WEF.

Kees 26 July 2022

No one is allowed to talk to this man.
never never

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euro 26 July 2022

never engage in a conversation totally unreliable co-inventor of this ridiculous plan let him solve the floriade

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time bomb 26 July 2022

Totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sefO 26 July 2022

As long as almost 12000 companies have to rot and another 17500 have to halve and what remains can barely breathe, take the unfeasible KDW's, there is absolutely no point in talking with the evil genius.
The above cabinet proposals have nothing to do with reducing nitrogen anymore, but with (disrespectfully said) murders of everything that has to do with agriculture.
A cabinet that comes up with such proposals should be sent home immediately.
NEVER AND NEVER CONVERSATION WITH THESE LUSH CRAFT.

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SE 26 July 2022

Do not talk to these persons who promote these foolish plans. A few years ago, Rutte said that those who did not feel at home here had to leave. Now the farmers have to disappear to make way for many who do not belong here. The whole thing is upside down. But it is certain that one cannot eat from building a house, cannot live. It is time for a completely different course. A country that does not keep its defense and food supply in order is a danger to itself.

Flevo farmer 27 July 2022

Special, what is being said here. I really don't understand why you wouldn't talk to this man, as long as you just tell your own story, and make it clear that you're not taking a step in his direction. That's still better than yelling from the sidelines and knowing you're not being listened to, and eventually it's being done by someone outside the industry.

In addition; ranchers, what's the matter with you? Be damn happy that half of your competition is going to be BOOKED OUT. For those who want to stop, it is a WARM remediation, with a generous buy-out arrangement, and for those who want/can continue; half of your competition is gone; knowing that there will be no less consumption, this can only have positive effects on the price of your product. And what do you think of the costs of the manure sales? Some farmers pay squint for the sale of manure, so that is a thing of the past.

Be damn happy that the government is willing to pay so much money for you! It can also be very different, just look at other sectors!

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Law 27 July 2022

Dear Flevoboer. I think you're miscalculating something a bit. The Netherlands has no closed borders. So don't think that the Jumbo and co are waiting to pay you a higher price for your dairy. Argentina and New Zealand or other countries are happy to bring these. In addition, if there is less manure, the arable farmer will produce more expensively, so that feed prices will rise. They have to play the game fairly and say what they want every week. And that's room for me. Not just for housing, but simply to allow more than 20 million people to live in the future. It is a move or cessation proposal cast in a different guise.

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Jantje 27 July 2022

Flevoboer wrote:

Special, what is being said here. I really don't understand why you wouldn't talk to this man, as long as you just tell your own story, and make it clear that you're not taking a step in his direction. That's still better than yelling from the sidelines and knowing you're not being listened to, and eventually it's being done by someone outside the industry.

In addition; ranchers, what's the matter with you? Be damn happy that half of your competition is going to be BOOKED OUT. For those who want to stop, it is a WARM remediation, with a generous buy-out arrangement, and for those who want/can continue; half of your competition is gone; knowing that there will be no less consumption, this can only have positive effects on the price of your product. And what do you think of the costs of the manure sales? Some farmers pay squint for the sale of manure, so that is a thing of the past.

Be damn happy that the government is willing to pay so much money for you! It can also be very different, just look at other sectors!

Strange amount of money? They just pay the market value. If you'd like to stop and sell to your neighbor you can probably get more.

Flevo farmer 27 July 2022

So you're saying that the amount of milk produced in the Netherlands has nothing to do with the price? That's even more worrying. As a farmer I would be delighted if half my competition were bought out, there is simply too much of everything else the price would be a bit higher.

The buyout arrangement is the market value + 30%, I was told. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read any facts about amounts.

What I mean to say; don't shout so loud that everything is nonsense; the sector is simply sick, what is the revenue model? Look further. All those animal feed companies, they make millions and billions of profit! How is that possible???

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frog 27 July 2022

Flevoboer wrote:

So you're saying that the amount of milk produced in the Netherlands has nothing to do with the price? That's even more worrying. As a farmer I would be delighted if half my competition were bought out, there is simply too much of everything else the price would be a bit higher.

The buyout arrangement is the market value + 30%, I was told. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read any facts about amounts.

What I mean to say; don't shout so loud that everything is nonsense; the sector is simply sick, what is the revenue model? Look further. All those animal feed companies, they make millions and billions of profit! How is that possible???

market value is something different than what you can sell for, count in flevoboer area only €100.000 plus that 30%, with €130.000 you will certainly be 30.000€ short compared to free sale.

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huh 27 July 2022

ha flevoboer you think very short-sighted if there is a disaster or war, what is already in the area and you have no food what then? And then also bring even more people here, it is absurd what is happening here in the Netherlands, you can have a nice chat with the WEF fools. good luck

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crow 27 July 2022

Flevoboer, name someone who has been expropriated by the government for nature and who is happy with it.
You don't know what you wish for. A whole process of 10 years with various lawsuits and endless conversations where it is made clear that you are not wanted. Great uncertainty whether or not you will be expropriated by a very unreliable institution, the government.

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Law 27 July 2022

In order for prices to rise, more will have to be done than just buying out our neighbor. A world without borders will get products where they are cheap.

Flevo farmer 27 July 2022

My main point is; farmers have been complaining and whining for years that nothing is being earned, that prices are too low, that they have no say and that there is too much production, and in arable farming they say; yes, you just stop and I'll start growing more.

In this way it is also a dead end, producing for a world market with all the quirks that go with it, totally uncertain. The government is now bidding with 25 billion!!! the opportunity to help the sector, to regain a new balance. And what are the farmers yelling? CUT OUT WITH ALL THE nonsense, WE DO IT SUPER, IT'S JUST GOOD, WE HAVE NOTHING SUFFERS FROM ANYTHING, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT..

Many farmers are simply stupid and naive.

The government doesn't want ALL farmers gone, that's just bullshit

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Drent 27 July 2022

Flevoboer, do you ever get out of the polder? We don't farm on an island so it's an illusion to think that only here would prices go up if half of it stopped. We are already seeing a shift in cultivation due to too strict a policy here.

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livestock farmer/trader. 27 July 2022

Dear Flevoboer, you can nicely say that a part is bought up so that the rest have more opportunities. But if it's your turn to be bought up, because it's your location, and you have a successor, then what? Do not cooperate, so expropriate? Just try to find a suitable other location where there are also opportunities to continue. There are people when they get a bag of money they stop but they stop in the future. It's going too far to say that prices will go up as a result. That won't just happen. Meat must be a competitor otherwise it will be imported. What is already a fact is that there are much higher production requirements here while imports are made for domestic use with lower requirements. It also turns out that if you want to be competitive you have to have a certain size. Just look at a niche market if organically the numbers grow there per worker what could be the cause? Production costs per worker!!!
Even if the sector becomes too narrow, production costs are too high financially. Let's think together soberly.

Flevo farmer 27 July 2022

How do we as a sector arrive at a decent revenue model?

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livestock farmer/trader. 27 July 2022

That is a difficult task. I don't have a monopoly on the wisdom of this either, but there are rules of the game. In the first place what is bought / sold here to the consumer all the same requirements also what comes from abroad. This applies to both housing and nutritional requirements. We are not allowed to put an egg from a battery chicken in the store. Or also give us that housing option back. Less food, less costs, cleaner product and fewer emissions. Something that is sold as a niche product, eg organic, can never become general, then we cannot compete. I'm not against certain production options that are sold as a niche market, definitely a plus, but it doesn't fit everywhere. It remains a niche market. The consumer looks at price and that is more likely to get worse than better.

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peter 27 July 2022

Flevoboer wrote:

How do we as a sector arrive at a decent revenue model?

Flevoboer ever driven a round through the outskirts of the Netherlands??
All that shiny iron counted and counted? Lease or buy doesn't matter, I think the wealth still drips from it, so the revenue model seems quite decent.

Flevo farmer 28 July 2022

Oh, so it's going too well? And then always keep crying. No wonder 'society' is done with farmers.

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peter 28 July 2022

Flevoboer wrote:

Oh, so it's going too well? And then always keep crying. No wonder 'society' is done with farmers.

Maybe it's about injustice?

Egbert 29 July 2022

Former minister Veerman is a hypocrite. He believes that the government has taken a wrong approach, while as a minister he has contributed to the nitrogen problem. Moreover, he has become a millionaire from the odious EU subsidies. Please dim some! Farmers earn good prices for their products, such as the current prices. Then the EU subsidies can be abolished. Do we still have an LNV minister in this country?

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