Preventing milking again

Unexpected director in dairy cattle stop scheme

8 February 2017 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 24 comments

Participants in the stopper scheme can start milking again next year without any problems. However, they must then repay the guarantee from the bank of 1.200 euros per phosphate right. However, most quitters will stop permanently. Who they are and when they stop is partly coordinated by Rabobank.

Increased chance of success of stopper scheme

The stopper scheme is a voluntary scheme. Nevertheless, various signals indicate that banks are exerting influence on this. Members at LTO, among others, complain about the attitude of banks. These complaints show that dairy farmers feel pressured to stop. There are also voices from the field that beacon gives urgent advice about when the company should be sold.    

The bank does this to prevent the price of land in a certain region from coming under too much pressure too quickly and thus decreasing in value. This can indeed be the case if several dairy farmers stop close to each other at the same time. This is disadvantageous for the stopping dairy farmer, but also for the value of the collateral of the financier. 

This does not happen at ABN Amro, emphasizes Pierre Berntsen of that bank. "It's not in our nature to control who stops and when." The top management of Rabobank, through Ruud Huinre, Rabobank's Director of Agro, clearly expressed a different opinion last September. He then stated in various media that the bank should serve the interests of the stopper when selling, and that sometimes means that waiting a while before selling can be a useful instrument. It increases the chance of success of the stopper arrangement.

Added up 2.400 euros per cow
The 20st round of the stopper arrangement will start on 1 February. The premium that the State makes available in this round is 1.200 euros per dairy cow. This registration round will in principle remain open until March 3. Unless the money available for the 1st round, 12 million euros, is transferred earlier. 'In that case, a second round will open quickly', explains Wiebren van Stralen of LTO when asked. 'But for a slightly lower amount. It's like a concert. First come, can get the tickets in the front row.'

10.000

cows 

qualify

12 million euros and 1.200 euros per cow means financing for 10.000 cows. That is 100 farmers with 100 cows or 200 farmers with 50 cows. All estimates are that a total of at least 500 dairy farmers want to make use of the stopper scheme. It is therefore certainly not inconceivable that the scheme will be overwritten in the 1st round. A total of EUR 50 million is available. If more is needed because of overwriting, LTO and NZO will do everything they can to expand the pot, says Van Stralen. 

For a stopper, in addition to the 1.200 euros per cow in premium from the State, there is another amount ready from the banks. They guarantee 1.200 euros per phosphate right. These 1.200 euros will be paid out to the registered stoppers quickly after the start of the scheme.

If the phosphate rights are a fact in 2018, this amount must be repaid. If the phosphate rights yield more, the difference will be for the stopper. If the yield per phosphate right is lower than 1.200 euros, the banks are faced with this difference. The banks are Rabobank, ABN Amro and ING. These three banks signed for the guarantee. Almost all dairy farmers have financing from one of these banks. An individual who has a loan with ASR or Triodos Bank can theoretically fall out of the way.

It is not yet clear whether the banks will reclaim their 'loan' per phosphate right before a certain date in 2018. Details about and formalization of the stopper arrangement are expected in the week of February 13.

Starting again in 2018

Trade best animals with the neighbor

Dairy farmers who participate in the stopper scheme can simply start milking cows again next year. Legally there is nothing that can stop them from doing so. According to Wiebren van Stralen, however, this is no problem at all within phosphate legislation. 'The reduction plan applies to 2017. Every stopper contributes to reducing phosphate production. In 2018, the phosphate rights will ensure the limitation. If a stopper does not want to cash in on his or her rights, he or she will simply milk cows again, although new animals will have to be purchased.'

A few may want to continue the business with some of the best cows. In any case, it gives a lot of emotion to many stoppers that the best animals now disappear for slaughter, when they participate in the stopper scheme. Van Stralen has another tip for avoiding this: 'Swap your best animals with the neighbor's bottom end of his herd. The stopper regulation applies per cow. Good or bad, it doesn't matter. Even if you stop permanently, that might be an opportunity to not really have to get rid of the good animals.'

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tinus 8 February 2017
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To puke.....


€2400................................? 1200 comes first, what good is the other 1200 if you don't know what the conditions are to trade? The rights can be linked to the ground

Bah......
tinus weather 8 February 2017
Let them first provide more clarity instead of selling stupid talk here.....February 20 and March 3.......quickly decide otherwise...
Henk 8 February 2017
As if the bank can/may say: "You are going to stop now and participate in this scheme, otherwise we will cancel the financing".
chats....
socks 8 February 2017
Henk this is really coming.
son 8 February 2017
the bank only says that for companies with liquidity problems, of course. And yes Henk in case of arrears, a bank can and may say that you are going to stop. Then you are of course a cow that stunts with cattle if you don't even use that stopper arrangement.
arable farmer 8 February 2017
Finally a bank that dares to play it the way it should.
Get money to quit!!!!!
Ridiculous.
For years the sector has been kept over the head by Gerrit Braks
Lived in a wet dream for years.
Received money to remediate / demolish stables
Suckling premium slaughter premium premium on premium on premium.....
Golden years had a bad few years, and then the government stepped in again for livestock farming.

You should try to explain this to someone at a party I regularly speak to SMEs who do not understand this.
josef 8 February 2017
What will happen to the land price if there is no derogation in 2018 and beyond? The unreliable Netherlands and Brussels ??
jos verstrate 8 February 2017
Rights are linked to the cow tinus. I understand that the FPG will pull this off, but they won't succeed.
And a farmer: it is money from the dairy sector for the dairy sector. I wouldn't try to explain more to an outsider.
Gerrit Braks has not been a minister for 30 years.
andre vw 8 February 2017
All cows away for a year.
Make up the manure stock on your own land this year.
Perform sales or stockpile.
1200 euros per cow premium plus slaughter proceeds.
Start with a clean slate next year.

It may well turn out financially well.
However, the animals are again the victims.
maikel 8 February 2017
Why do the farmers get money that is the risk of doing business anyway and the staff who work in livestock farming also get money they are on the street empty-handed they have to do something for it a few years ago they built but it was not possible now is it crying
Bolder 8 February 2017
can it be recalled? Lto .siem jan donate what were they for abolishing the quota it was too expensive .. what does this cost???? With much sorrow and much more expense .. my estimation ...
Arable farmer livestock farmer 8 February 2017
Farmer doesn't understand!
I'd rather have a fair price than a premium!
Arable farmers also receive premium payment entitlements.
andre vw 8 February 2017
Hi Bolder,

You are right about LTO.
Now all countries can grow and only the Netherlands has a quota.
Not so good for our competitive position.
Can we speak of mismanagement at LTO?
geert 10 February 2017
The bank has been in control of many dairy farms for some time, for this arrangement the bank will advise the farmer to make use of it, willingly and otherwise unwillingly
the buck 26 February 2017
I think the banks are doing nothing because they want to guarantee EUR 1200 per phosphate right. However, the rights will be granted in 2018 at the earliest based on the position as at 1-1-2018. In other words, if you run out of livestock, you also get nothing.
happy piglet 26 February 2017
Farmer wrote:
Finally a bank that dares to play it the way it should.
Get money to quit!!!!!
Ridiculous.
For years the sector has been kept over the head by Gerrit Braks
Lived in a wet dream for years.
Received money to remediate / demolish stables
Suckling premium slaughter premium premium on premium on premium.....
Golden years had a bad few years, and then the government stepped in again for livestock farming.

You should try to explain this to someone at a party I regularly speak to SMEs who do not understand this.

Completely agree as a pig farmer I don't get anything only bills from Brussels
Green 3 March 2017
How about the dairies that have spent hundreds of millions to absorb the milk peak, money that has not been paid to the farmers for the milk, those factories are now empty or running at half power because there is no more milk ...
Pigmans 4 March 2017
Isn't it time to let us know! Let's screw ourselves up now? Election is coming
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laapc 4 March 2017
A happy piglet, bunch of screamers, but no entrepreneurs.
arable farmer 8 March 2017
why do people measure with 2 sizes??? we have had enough for years that we have to drive the carrots / onions back on the land costs a lot of money who will help us??? always have to keep up with our own pants. If we stop, we will also receive money from the government and the bank???
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laapc 8 March 2017
That's the way it is and nothing else.
kees 22 May 2017
farmer wrote:
why do people measure with 2 sizes??? we have had enough for years that we have to drive the carrots / onions back on the land costs a lot of money who will help us??? always have to keep up with our own pants. If we stop, we will also receive money from the government and the bank???

I'm also a farmer and don't think I need the rich and I'm proud of that.
I would not like to trade with a dairy farmer both financially and in terms of work not
own beans first 1 August 2017
kees wrote:
farmer wrote:
why do people measure with 2 sizes??? we have had enough for years that we have to drive the carrots / onions back on the land costs a lot of money who will help us??? always have to keep up with our own pants. If we stop, we will also receive money from the government and the bank???

I'm also a farmer and don't think I need the rich and I'm proud of that.
I would not like to trade with a dairy farmer both financially and in terms of work not

The farmer thinks the same way and that's fine, right?
kalf 12 March 2018
Why do dairy farmers actually receive arable subsidies on mais. Then also arable subsidies for arable farming. This whole subsidy system was not necessary for me, but this is what you get when the government intervenes. Surplus equals bad trade, too short is super prices. But the latter so apparently not.
geert 26 July 2018
The bank is the boss for many farmers.
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