FrieslandCampina must reduce calf mortality

mdb 13 February 2017

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Result of regulations, worthless prices for calves, so that no vet is called in (money is no longer available)!!

Make an article about that, instead of showing all the consequences of dramatic prices in dairy farming! (money is in the wrong place)

Many livestock farmers just run out!!!!!
Calves sell for under $100, while a vet costs more at the weekend!

IT JUST STOPS ONCE

EB 13 February 2017

Let's have a discussion about undersized calves that nobody wants; they are simply sprayed flat at the collection points because they do not meet the "standard". What kind of country do we live in that we have to euthanize our healthy calves??? Farmers are almost forced to "lend a hand" themselves when calves that are too small are born, because nobody wants them and it all costs a lot of money. Maybe that's where the high death rate comes from??? And all thanks to those "rules" that drive us all crazy !!!

mdb 13 February 2017

AND SO IT IS, AND NO OTHERWISE!

I puke from all the stupid regulations, see one of the consequences here!

And from Three to see if he gets even higher in the quote 500... bahbahbah

Jan 13 February 2017

And FC is willing to put up with that. They do everything to please the consumer, except to tell you how it really all works.
You can earn extra cents again, which they took away first.
There has to come a time when it is not self-evident that the shelves are full.

CJ 13 February 2017

Euthanizing healthy calves is too crazy for words and not sustainable at all, the only thing they do with them is hose them down and then they go into the manure digester; very durable. Let's just worry about other things. We have all kinds of restrictions here while there is so much hunger in the world, cows have to go outside for animal welfare (unnatural behaviour), a horse is not born with a saddle, 3 dogs in a flat are also allowed, a bird in a cage , a fish in a bowl. We are crazy with each other here in the Netherlands. The people who come up with all those rules should just get to work, so do we!!!!

Henk 13 February 2017

Dairy farmers are members of FC, right? Do they no longer have control?
Come on cattle farmers of FC, Action against those high lords of FC!!!!

RN 13 February 2017

Frieslandcampina must market our milk, and not interfere with everything! If the calf does not want to drink, it will stop once. calling the vet usually makes no sense and is too expensive the calves can no longer afford the money. van Drie does get calves from abroad, they bring the biggest mess here (illness in sleep) and when the valve of the car comes loose, most calves are already exhausted on the floor of the car or are dead.

Meaning 13 February 2017

MUST???
Oh FC we are also waiting for a letter in which the toilet paper to be used is prescribed! Toilet paper that is ecologically and biologically natural and that complies with all kinds of quality marks, etc. With approved packaging of course. And if we don't do that, we get a fine of 200 euros and also have to pay a mandatory re-examination!
Fortunately, we are not the only ones who get sick of all that meddling from government and dairy farmers! The voice of disaffected peasants will grow stronger and stronger....
Where is the time when we as entrepreneurs were allowed to determine things ourselves? From calf at the cow to cow in the meadow and so on....

Jan 13 February 2017

Completely agree with the previous speakers, there are people who hear the bells ringing but don't know where the clapper is!!
You know, we have to work and make decent hours a day, but we are not allowed to earn anything, trade in the broadest sense of the word, become rich from our poverty.
Friesland Campina, let's hear against the sound how the fork is in the stem, we want to take good care of our animals and we do that, but we get stuck everywhere because of the absurd regulations and bad prices and we have to deal with people who have no idea at all and just shout and scream and the louder they do that the more they are believed!!!
Look at the sugar industry, they started talking about sugar because a completely wrong image was put out with unsubstantiated facts.
Stand up for the members!!

Monica 13 February 2017

You can now see the consequences if the GD and the NVWA spare the calf milking industry.
Even though the deviations in the calf milk replacer are demonstrably present, the GD will not be able or unwilling to detect the deviations.
Despite repeated reports to the NVWA that calf milk replacer is not good or contains too low a protein/energy content, nothing is done about it. This translates into a higher death rate in winter.
It is not only the resistance of the calves, but also the energy content in the calf milk replacer.

Ard Eshuis 13 February 2017

@Monica: What nonsense you write there, just like Dier en Recht... If there is already less energy in the calf milk replacer, you can just give it an extra liter on the winter day.... deepen the matter, visit a dairy farmer...

Ilona 13 February 2017

Is it right for the GD to publish these figures?
Does the GD not violate the protection of the UBN (Unique Company Number) here?
How is it possible that Nu.nl does get information here and that livestock farmers have to pay for general information at the GD.
When will the GD stop providing private information about the UBN numbers to third parties?

Henk 13 February 2017

Where has the time gone when we were free entrepreneurs, we are not on the payroll at FC

EB 13 February 2017

@Hank; that time will never come back as long as you're with FC. We farmers only bear the financial risk and for the rest we have to keep our mouths shut and just do what FC tells us.....and well....it doesn't make sense to quit. They have you completely under the pliers !!!

Fortissimo 13 February 2017

I don't recognize myself in the rising death rates at all. FC must value milk and keep away from the daily management of farmers, the gentlemen of FC can't even run their own tent yet. Dairy farming in NL must rapidly eliminate IBR and BVD. In addition, vaccinations such as against rota corona virus should become common on Dutch companies. Immediately remove the calf from the cow and disinfect the navels and provide it with a navel clamp. Day 1 and day 2 at least 4, but better still at least 6 liters of colostrum (whether or not from your own mother, that is not the most important), from day 3 provide unlimited acidified milk through teat buckets. Mandatory calving warmers from 1 October to 1 April. All calves are housed in housing (preferably separate boxes) with a 10 cm layer of straw, preferably not in igloos. Hosing down calf housing every round. Working consistently is decisive.

Show 13 February 2017

Essential next year at focus planet what I tell you

BV 13 February 2017

This year I will add a few more....I have to reduce...from 2014 the land expanded by 50% in 2015 finally a permit for a new barn...and my parents' company took over 2016 Expand livestock so that I am in balance....now I have to have all my young stock slaughtered...while I don't have a phosphate surplus....if I buy the phosphate rights and follow the feed track, I can keep more cattle next year than I have now...and the best is yet to come...I haven't participated in derogation for years!

mdb 13 February 2017

The day is fast approaching when I'm going to give up, with that terribly rotten profession from the outside!

And we??? let everything happen over OUR back!
Where are the farmers of yesteryear, who stood up for their rights and businesses???
We have become a bunch of sluggish smitten guests

Farmer Joop 13 February 2017

It is the dairy's turn for a milk price of at least 50 euro cents. Then the health of the farms and their livestock will be fine too! As it is now, it is no longer possible. No money, then no healthy business management is possible !!!!!

MBKL 13 February 2017

do the gentlemen know how it is in practice to deliver calves for € 15,== (chick calf) and then provide feed for more than 14 days who will work for that, a lot of money and energy has to be added for nothing, every farmer does his/her own best to keep a calf alive, but it is bound by a lot of rules, also in terms of medicine should not exceed the animal daily dose. First go and work at the farmer and also look at the costs, then everyone would keep their mouths shut with all those made-up rules paper mass that must be kept in order a farmer is an all-rounder entrepreneur accountant veterinarian controller cleaner landscape caretaker and so on.

marcel 13 February 2017

well college farmers I would put some more cows in the stable then we all have more calves for the market that is already full we dig our own grave. it's never enough always more.
we can't get our necks full!!!!

Arja 13 February 2017

If you take good care of the calves, provide the cows with a good ration during the transition period, not even one calf has to die, in my experience! And you can even get a good price for your calf.

Ton Westgeest 13 February 2017

The calves are well cared for, the cows are given a good ration during the transition period, from day 3 they provide unlimited acidified milk by means of teat buckets, and require calf warmers. All calves are housed in separate boxes with a 10 cm layer of straw, not in igloos. Hosing down calf housing every round.
Look together we come up with the new rules for next year, and they are added and no rules are removed. That's how we do it...... We make it so easy for those milk factory hats!!!

geert 13 February 2017

This is due to the regulations, the farmer has too little time for the animals due to the enormous amount of administration, if you do not fill in something correctly, that is a crime, it sometimes costs more in fines than a new car, Due to the low milk price, extra not paying staff.

geert 13 February 2017

Friesland-Campina employs more staff than there are member dairy farmers

geert 13 February 2017

The farmer is caught between being a good farmer and a lot of administration, which is the fault of the government and the low milk prices of the dairies. LOOK AT FARMER LOOKING FOR WOMAN, FARMERS DON'T HAVE A RICH SOCIAL LIFE, IT'S EVEN WORSE. On Sundays during dinner, the children ask mother, who is that gentleman who cuts the meat for us?

Hello Greenstein 13 February 2017

My question to RFC is this: if I (veterinarian) saved that little calf with a lot of effort (and expense), what happens to it?

Vet Hella 13 February 2017

My question to RFC is this: if I have saved that calf with a lot of effort (and cost). And if the farmer gives up the animal on the day of birth in accordance with the rules, what happens to the (too) small calf?

geert 13 February 2017

Hundreds of thousands of dairy cows now have to be slaughtered prematurely because of the phosphate law, the government even provides subsidies for this. Now we have to worry about those calves, who sometimes already have few chances of survival and sometimes have little value and then need very expensive medicines that are more expensive than the value of the calf. Who's crazy in the Netherlands then? The government, the citizen or the farmer. A farmer already has enough bills to pay and the government or citizen is not worried about that

EB 13 February 2017

@Arja; If you're lucky you get 15 euros for your heifer calves (good price, or not sometimes), if you're unlucky 5 or 0 euros. Then you have a bull; Born 3 weeks premature, you will not get that up to standard within the legal term of 5 weeks, what do you do with that????? We'll just sit there with that, don't we.....

wilma 13 February 2017

It is good that the calves that are too light are being considered and that it is now being discussed.
You have a responsibility as a farmer, you have the fortunes in the hands of the animal.
You are not worth being a farmer if an animal's life no longer counts and you let a small calf languish!
The sector must press for an import ban on calves and rearing options for light animals.
and ps..... your job satisfaction cannot always be expressed in money, if those few hundred euros cost you the head as a farmer, it is better to sell the lot immediately!
(says a heavily funded farmer)

Johan s 13 February 2017

I agree with Arja, while I don't give a calf at night and I don't clean every cubicle after empty, that doesn't matter to me and I'm too lazy for that. I started feeding unlimited cold powder 5 years ago. Sometimes I have nutritional diarrhea for 1 day. They are big calves after 4 weeks. I would say to mdb , but good that van Drie there is where else should you go with the calves? and if you stop milking you can start fattening calves. You got them cheap.

Peter Kremer 13 February 2017

Why are people so concerned about spraying calves, after 3 days or after 2 years
On 2-7-2015 I was allowed to have 20 calves aged 0-1 years, with regard to the phosphate legislation on 2-7-2017, only 5 of them remained. #emotional politics

Henk 13 February 2017

Dear colleagues, I think it is sensible that every livestock farmer who is still a member of LTO immediately cancels its membership. It is too crazy for words that a stand organization such as LTO does nothing and also nothing for livestock farming.
First screaming free milking before 2-7-2015 filling the barn now slaughtering cows full throttle.... Don't answer, just nod yes.
If it continues like this, it will go downhill.
I hope a lot of eyes will be opened.

geert 13 February 2017

The ban or the pressure to use fewer antibiotics is causing the number of dead calves to rise. Must try them in hospitals too!

jos verstrate 14 February 2017

Disappointing, most of the comments above. It would be ridiculous if RFC had to oblige farmers to invest in the care of calves.
This is because a farmer is obliged to his own position.
Some look for excuses that are unacceptable and unacceptable.
Antibiotics, the low milk price, the low value of calves, of three, sheer nonsense. Farmers who dare to use these arguments to avoid unnecessary calf mortality, I am ashamed of that and are a disgrace to the sector.
Was signed,
Josh Verstraten

MVG 14 February 2017

Brave jos, what an answer in line with the opinion of the ruling elite who have the work done by the ordinary farmer. There must be SUPPORT among farmers before introducing all sorts of nonsense.

Peter 14 February 2017

Years ago a calf was still worth gold and what is it worth now Jos Vertsraten? Didn't call frc and LTO we want more milk, so more calves too!

Peter 14 February 2017

And I therefore think that the board of rfc and lto has been deeply guilty of the negative price formation of milk and calves by shouting more and more. And now they shout less less. Get rid of such a board. Since 2014 I have not grown in GVE's and therefore I have the right to speak, Mr. Verstraten! I am deeply ashamed of people like you!

socks 14 February 2017

Where is the health service for animals at the Oostvaderplassen? It's just outrageous what's going on there. The reason is the same as with farmers: no money. Only that goes under the guise of nature, nonsense.

geert 14 February 2017

The regional councils of RFC blindly follow the board and management, otherwise you will not fit in the regional council, they are already screened in advance

geert 14 February 2017

Jos Verstraten, if they reduce or completely ban the use of antibiotics in hospitals, the death rate also rises, otherwise they would have stopped using them long ago.

ak 14 February 2017

160000 cows productive cows are culled made possible by friesland campina and their members and now trying to divert attention to the calves and that it is the farmers' fault it seems fc members are brainwashed at the members meeting every time they get crazier

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