Judge rules

Phosphate reduction plan partly out of action

4 May 2017 - Herma van den Pol - 45 comments

The Phosphate Reduction Regulation 2017 does not apply to a certain group of dairy farmers. The court in The Hague said this on Thursday 4 May. This is because these dairy farmers are financially disadvantaged.

The scheme has been suspended for the 5 dairy farmers (1 organic, 1 land-based and 3 conventional farmers) who initiated summary proceedings against the Phosphate Reduction Regulation 2017. The judge ruled that the Scheme was a disproportionate burden on the plaintiffs. "He was not foreseeable and does not offer any compensation," the judge ruled. The scheme is therefore non-binding.

The scheme is therefore non-binding

The first group to win are the organic farmers, because they do not contribute to the problem. The second group is those who made irreversible investments in land or stables before 2 July 2015. According to the judge, the only beef cattle company that also took part no longer had any interests (because of the the change of 1 May). 

Not contributing to problem
Precisely because of the switch to an organic dairy farm, and the associated costs, the court finds the Regulation disproportionate. This is because the Regulation aims to provide a solution to a problem in which organic farmers have no interest and to which they do not contribute. Organic dairy farming is therefore excluded from the problem by the court. 

Another group are those who invested. Marieke Toonders, van Linssen Advocaten responds: 'The plaintiffs invested in land.' This happened after politicians indicated that land was a requirement for the further development of the company. This was later overtaken by the introduction of phosphate rights on 2 July 2015, followed by a Phosphate Reduction Regulation 2017. Toonders: 'Under the latter regulation, the removal of cows must take place.' This concerns investments made before July 2, 2015, in accordance with the legislation that was active on January 1, 2015. 

disproportionate burden
Attorney-at-law Peter Goumans, Hekkelman Advocaten, adds further. 'The Scheme is being suspended because it imposes a disproportionate burden on the milk-supplying companies (particularly because of the investments made). For the organic company concerned and in general for organic companies, legal consideration 4.19 is highly relevant. Precisely because of the switch to an organic dairy farm and the associated costs, the preliminary relief judge finds the Regulation disproportionate. This is because the Regulation aims to provide a solution for a problem in which organic farmers have no interest and for a problem to which they do not contribute. Organic dairy farming is therefore excluded from the problem by the judge.' 

What is the scope of the ruling?

What does the pronunciation mean?
Peter Goumans responds: 'The question now is what the scope of the ruling is. The ruling and the ineffectiveness apply to the claimants. Dairy farms that are in similar circumstances must write to the State Secretary invoking the judgment of the summary proceedings. Another option is to litigate in the event of a rejection of a request to increase the reference number due to special circumstances (pressure case), or to do the same when a levy is imposed.'

It's Van Dam's turn
'Now it is up to Van Dam to do something', says Toonders. She indicates that the ruling gives many dairy farmers a reason to follow the example of the first 5. Goumans mainly wants to know whether the summary proceedings are a reason for the State Secretary to withdraw the scheme.  

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Friday 5 May Peter Goumans will visit the studio of Boerenbusiness† If you have any pressing questions, ask them below this article. Who knows, we may address your question in the interview. Do not hesitate to ask questions about the young stock and related matters. 

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Herman van den Pol

Herma van den Pol has been with us since 2011 Boerenbusiness and has developed over the years into a market expert Milk & Feed. In addition, she can be seen weekly in the market flash about the dairy market.
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45 comments
mdb 4 May 2017
This is a response to this article:
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Want all my culled cows back!!!! What a shame
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Rob07 4 May 2017
This is what you get if you don't set up a good pinch-case regulation first.
Anyone who contributed to this puppet show should be ashamed of themselves.
Even if this means loss of the derogation, first a decent settlement
as youthful 4 May 2017
Now the madness breaks out.
elly 4 May 2017
we have also lost 60 and land-bound. next week something different for sure.
bert 4 May 2017
No more derogation next year? So another 300.000 cows will be gone in 2018.

thanks !
E hoving 4 May 2017
With many colleagues in the peat colonies with arable farming, no right to derogate, but a not full stable.
Jan b. 4 May 2017
Finally, when justice is done to recover the damage from Economic Affairs, they will also need a few damage adjusters in addition to the compensation for earthquake damage. Good luck Mr Camp.
Pieter 4 May 2017
That means that citizens - taxpayers - have to pay?? May hope not.
ingrid schmidt 4 May 2017
On July 2, 2015 we were building to enlarge the barn and to place a second milking robot. We had 68 dairy cows at the time and wanted to expand to about 80/85. We wanted to expand through our own breeding, so we kept all the heifer calves that were born. So we are now very much in the young stock. We have and had more than enough land, so our company did not have a phosphate problem anyway, we can supply manure every year.
In the following year we grew from 80 to 94 LU. Now with the phosphate plan, all that has to go! The stable we have built will soon be half empty and the second robot will no longer be needed. We have chosen to first clean up a number of cows because we thought it a shame to get rid of all those beautiful young cattle for next to nothing. We weren't squeezed because we didn't have fewer animals because of the construction work. We can't prove a financial need either, because there simply isn't one. So, according to the advisers, we were unable to register for the shortage regulation. In the meantime 12 cows have left, but because the young stock is constantly shifting in the age category, more and more LUs are added on paper. Now we wanted to get rid of some young stock, but suddenly there is the young stock number of April 28! So then we still had all our 53 young stock. If this now means that they have to stay, then we will have to get rid of almost 20 healthy dairy cows before the end of the year, leaving 45 cows and 53 young stock! That's not right at all! What are they up to? How are we ever going to make money with 45 dairy cows and two milking robots? Soon there will be another mega-investment for the phosphate rights, will it be earned back? What a bizarre situation the scientists have caused. If there is anyone who can advise us, please do!
from the wind 4 May 2017
It is certainly the case that every dairy farmer has received a license in a lawful manner and there is a question of property right.
After all, investments have been made in storage, so the permit is there and because you have not completed the licensed existing step on July 2, 2015, they can't just take away your property rights, can they?
south farmer 4 May 2017
vanderwind wrote:
It is certainly the case that every dairy farmer has received a license in a lawful manner and there is a question of property right.
After all, investments have been made in storage, so the permit is there and because you have not completed the licensed existing step on July 2, 2015, they can't just take away your property rights, can they?


Totally correct. However, they can abolish the derogation. They could have done better from the start. You could of course wait for this. Nice such a collective thought, but if 1 frog jumps out of the wheelbarrow, the whole arrangement is blown up.
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Ronnie 4 May 2017
It is too bad for words that a judge has to explain to us agricultural foremen that you cannot push such a plan down everyone's throat, without taking the company-specific situation into account. After all, this was when pig rights were introduced. milk quota as well. It is also a form of civilization to also consider a minority.
We can be so happy with the independent judiciary
mores 4 May 2017
Now that Van Dam and LTO/NZO have learned more, I think it is high time for a major purification at those organizations and immediately stop taking ex-farmer Vogelaar seriously the only solution is Deduction of the manure export from the phosphate ceiling accelerated introduction of the cycle indicator and company-specific derogation each company responsible for its own groundwater quality. No land-related this has nothing to do with the environment
south farmer 4 May 2017
mores wrote:
Now that Van Dam and LTO/NZO have learned more, I think it is high time for a major purification at those organizations and immediately stop taking ex-farmer Vogelaar seriously the only solution is Deduction of the manure export from the phosphate ceiling accelerated introduction of the cycle indicator and company-specific derogation each company responsible for its own groundwater quality. No land-related this has nothing to do with the environment


Seems like an illusion to me. The end of the derogation is more obvious.
three pint 4 May 2017
To Peter Goumans,

What possibilities does this ruling offer for land-based livestock farmers who did not participate in summary proceedings, but who have meanwhile culled livestock in order to comply with the phosphate reduction plan? Can they in any way recover their damages from the state?
geert 4 May 2017
Now there will be another reduction round for the other farmers, the ceiling will not be raised
Peter Verberne 4 May 2017
The judge ruled in favor of the organic farmers because, I understand, they do not make use of the derogation. Does this also apply to conventional companies that do not make use of the derogation?
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smart ass 4 May 2017
we have demonstrably bought more land 2 years ago to be able to dispose of more manure and to milk more, I will also be entitled
pig farmer 4 May 2017
They also had to give up 10% of the rights to pig farmers at the end of the 90s (1998). We didn't get a dollar for this at the time.
Jan 4 May 2017
Likely consequence of abolition of decoration.
Is the pain now where it belongs?
ae 4 May 2017
www.pachtonline.nl maybe buy or lease land quickly?
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dairy farmer 4 May 2017
To Peter Goumans,

At the beginning of 2014 we took over the 2nd part of our dairy farm
(ground-bound). The bank only wanted to finance by expanding the stable. For the financing we had the obligation to grow from 90 dairy cows to 150 dairy cows (bank obligation for 150 dairy cows). NB permits were requested and approved. environment permit was granted and we bought additional land. We have now had to cull livestock to comply with the phosphate reduction plan.

Now our question is whether we also fall under the bottleneck scheme?
And what possibilities does this statement offer us?
joan 4 May 2017
derogation must go
Clears up a lot of bad farmers
Shut down rabo bank
gives good farmers air
problems solved
Johan s 4 May 2017
When derogated from it, the soil becomes even poorer.
Ilse Bos 4 May 2017
We just obediently clean up our cows to meet the reduction scheme
Cows that can still walk around for a few years are also gone
While our built stable for 129 cows is not full
The mess will certainly break out, we are all busy maintaining the derivation and such farmers screw this up for us, but they can continue to milk and we will not get our culled cows back
weird world this
Peter 4 May 2017
Dear Ilse, I'm sorry, but I've never participated in a derogation and I'm also alive and milking 76 cows. Derogation farmers ruin for me the milk price, calf price, etc. Your comment does not suit me!!!
a. 4 May 2017
I don't like the discussion about growers and cowboys. for it was not forbidden to keep cows. also not to keep many more cows, that was a choice for everyone. Martijn will have to withdraw his phosphate reduction scheme . derogation gone and then Martijn has to go and tell them in Brussels that they can put the phosphate ceiling in their ........... then it was a guy. ps Martijn I would like to reimburse my culled cows / young stock.
south farmer 4 May 2017
JohanS wrote:
When derogated from it, the soil becomes even poorer.


Explain that to them in Europe. However, our advocates there are far too busy with all kinds of parties, lectures and parties instead of doing what they are sitting for. Everyone is apparently the exception to the rule in this soap opera. Well, then you can come up with whatever you want, then the noses are not in the right direction and every plan is doomed to failure. Division within the sector means the end of derogation and that blow will be felt. You can sue until you weigh an ounce. Won't help I'm afraid.
J.te H dairy farmer 4 May 2017
Totally agree with Ingrid Schmidt.
Now the trick is to have the judge's ruling implemented as quickly as possible, be it via LTO or Peter Goumans.
Bob 5 May 2017
It is a pity that pig farmers also respond (intensive livestock farming)
They have been spared for years, producing a lot of manure without soil.
It's time for the downsizing there!!!!
Bert 5 May 2017
Fertilizer industry gone
Manure surplus gone
Interests? 5 May 2017
You owe everything and everything to the LTO and associates. Blindly swallowing what is decided in Brussels/The Hague, access to it cannot even be enforced at the court. Your cows/phosphate are indiscriminately rolled in in favor of Germany/France for other state deals. The Germans want to continue producing, but preferably without the Netherlands. Then LTO, together with banks and that top cooperative, crawls into its shell and they sit here, like insiders, sniffing loose ends. They should have worried 10-15 years ago that the PW numbers are dropping drastically here and just say in Brussels that they can push all those ceilings in their….

Everything is thanks to LTO/Rabo/FC who are now suddenly trying to talk with all the winds...
incomprehensible that no cow farmer protested when Martijn went wild as a mass murderer. He has now reached almost half the number as during the foot and mouth crisis of Brinkhorst and LTO is leading the way.

Very right that the judge makes short shrift of this and now completely against it, so don't let anything come over you in Brussels and otherwise all farmers on the highway!!
Karel 5 May 2017
Why does a dairy farmer have to have land under his company to use his rights and intensive livestock farming has enough rights???? That is pure discrimination.
Let everyone first bring 75% of their manure on their own land and only then expand
Those who don't make it close within 10 years
Gerwin 5 May 2017
As of March 2015, we moved our young stock to a breeder in order to be able to increase the number of dairy cattle according to the soil-related growth law. 18 head of young stock younger than 1 year and 28 head of parents than 1 year. Now the phosphate rights go to the breeder and we can no longer get our young stock back. We had only just disposed of the young stock and were still converting the barn on 2 July to be able to keep dairy cattle on the young stock places. We are the owner of the young stock, if disease should break out, we will also have to pay the costs for this, but we are suddenly sidelined for the phosphate rights. Besides that we will have to dispose of about 25 heifers that will calve this year, because we don't have the LUs to bring them back to our company. It is expected to cost us about 85.000 / 90.000 euros if we want to buy those phosphate rights next year. What can we do best?
Joan 5 May 2017
Charles,

I also have a poultry branch and the manure from this goes to Moerdijk and the rest goes to Germany.
Nicely arranged or not. And as far as the poultry rights are concerned: If the government is honest, the poultry rights should disappear as of 1 1 2018. That is the promise of the poultry sector.
But that's not going to happen either. Our government is unreliable and incompetent. Therein lies the problem.
pig farmer 5 May 2017
The whole legislation has been made far too complicated, with all kinds of exceptions.
It would have been better to oblige all farmers who cannot use all the manure on their own farm to acquire Phosphate, and to combine this with the POV plan in the pig farming sector to make the remediation a bit warmer by means of Phosphate exchange, perhaps with a discount %. in pig farming, and probably a somewhat lower price for the dairy farmers for their purchase of phosphate.
Then you would have had a solution from 2 sides, and the government would not have to come up with all kinds of weird laws.
This via a temporary arrangement with a maximum of what can be bought, so that enough pig rights remain for the on-going pig farmers
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smart ass 5 May 2017
stop with the sentence, "it has to be from Brussels" stop it, boss yourself
steven 5 May 2017
And the farmers who have a lot of staff and have to fire those staff, so it also goes for the jobs that are lost and a lot of people will not be happy with that.
Agnes 5 May 2017
Dear Peter Goumans, I am so happy to have people like you and a judge who understands that business cannot be changed overnight without, often major, financial consequences. Entrepreneurship requires a vision and strategy to achieve sound business operations. If you also have to deal with cows, soil, people and the weather, which have their own cycle, then you understand that a company is not a puppet where you can pull the strings. Our State Secretary apparently does not understand this or is too convinced of his own vision. Martijn van Dam seems to see us as a puppet and our sector as a puppet state. He pulls the strings, always on more or different strings and so quickly in succession that everything is currently completely tangled. Hopefully the court decision will provide some insight into our own actions. I think it is time for the creators of the rapidly accumulating legislation and regulations to take matters into their own hands!
kees 5 May 2017
Bob wrote:
It is a pity that pig farmers also respond (intensive livestock farming)
They have been spared for years, producing a lot of manure without soil.
It's time for the downsizing there!!!!

been living under a rock for the last 20n years????????
piet 5 May 2017
Too bad only lto is to blame (have not been a member for 20 years)
nmv I never hear anyone talk about it while this herd of donkeys had to walk away angrily from the pre-conversations
piet 5 May 2017
Too bad only lto is to blame (have not been a member for 20 years)
nmv I never hear anyone talk about it while this herd of donkeys had to walk away angrily from the pre-conversations
a. 5 May 2017
I don't just want to see my cows/young stock reimbursed. but also all hours of advisers and consultation with the bank. and also my lost night's sleep and that is expensive.
pig farmer 5 May 2017
As a pig farmer we have not had nearly such warm remediation opportunities as in the dairy farming sector, former dairy farmers have gratefully made use of those opportunities, and in the pig sector we have had no subsidies and such in all those years, certainly not like the dairy cattle that was used to.
And in view of the past few years, it does not seem to me that we are responsible for the current phosphate surplus.
But it would be better if I could solve this among the sectors as sectors, by creating a win-win situation for both sectors, of pig farmers who can remediate a bit warmer than is currently possible, and the other way around the dairy farmers can buy cheaper phosphate rights.
As an example, the current ratio is approximately and rounded off 10 pig rights to 1 dairy cow right. nml approx. 4.45 kg P in fattening pigs compared to 41.3 kg 1 dairy cow.
Phosphate duty dividing approximately 5000 euros by 10 pig rights, this would be 500 euros, more than the current 75 euros.
There will probably be so much supply that the amounts will be between 200/300 euros for 1 pig right or 2000 or 3000 euros for 1 dairy cow right, but that will be determined by market forces.
joan 5 May 2017
will not succeed pig farmer phosphate rights will disappear
kalf 6 May 2017
We're going to make a new bubble. We can count ourselves pretty rich again. Things will never get this way in this country.
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