Confined persons can count on extra support - Motion adopted

hans 13 December 2017

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Was it dairy farmers in a pinch, or banks in a pinch? Helping dairy farmers out of a pinch simply means putting other dairy farmers in a pinch.

flappy taxs 13 December 2017

the banks are going to wash their hands in innocence.
self-interest first.

Typical "chicken and egg" 13 December 2017

Typical "chicken and egg" story. Brave of our new government to recognize that there are real problems. Now let's all wait and see what the minister's answer will be before we all start falling over each other!

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Dirk 13 December 2017

Must be a godsend if the causers of the debacle are going to be helped right away at the expense of the others too. It won't anyway. Good lobbying by the banks.

grad 13 December 2017

If this select group is helped, then the other farmers who have built a new barn and are not full can also be helped.
I also have room for 60 dairy cows in our barn. I can't buy any rights at the moment either. I will also have to save first if I can.
People will first have to be screened for manure fraud, whether permits are in order. on the date 02-07-2015

grad 13 December 2017

Outrageous that this most of them may have acted knowingly. If I don't do it I get nothing like in 1983 the brutal get the whole world and the rest have to give up more.
I can't even milk my milk quota full in 2018 that I had on March 30, 2015. We have to hand in for these so-called Entrepreneurs.
If they are really entrepreneurs, they will solve it themselves and not on the backs of the non-growing people. These are very pathetic entrepreneurs or very big peep people

socks 13 December 2017

Explain to me how you become a bottleneck. Why is everyone running after the cowboys who wanted to deliver to the free market again. Please keep your own pants up. And not at the expense of your colleagues

pater 13 December 2017

In the Vredepeel, a stable is set up for 1800 dairy cows, with a total of 3000 dairy cows, 30 families can live here. These also fall under this scheme. Koolen has more euros than we have cents and yet we have to hand in for these bastards I find that very sad if you can barely make a living from your company because every farmer has to hand in for this company that did not manage the business so closely in the past took .
I think that if there were an exception, this should be capped to a maximum of 100 dairy cows per farm if you want to go bigger than solve it yourself. You also have money to buy phosphate rights on ground lease.
If this group succeeds, they will laugh at the group that has to hand in

gh 13 December 2017

It's a great shame that the fake entrepreneurs have to be helped out of the shit again...and the fucking banks with it. let them burst

pedro 13 December 2017

nice negative yet again
maybe you already have more cows than the pinched ones
here we try to provide a successor to a viable company, must also last 10 years until state pension
this same problem arose when I was in the succession with the setting of the quota, to keep up we have grown in quota and will now have to learn to live with phosphate we are an expanding company but certainly no cowboys, but a bottleneck and there will be therefore do everything possible to steal as much phosphate as possible from the settled elite (you so-called gentlemen farmers) without paying for it loose ballos

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dirk 13 December 2017

Pedro, dear friend, I don't know if you're a rascal or an adult, so actually a sensible person from whom we should expect erudite talk. Now suppose you belong to the latter category. Well, dear friend, then you can just go nuts with me as an entrepreneur, or as a farmer. Apologies to the other readers of this

pater 13 December 2017

Pedro you or your son can also work outside the home and build the company yourself and then take a little longer.
We are also fully funded, the stable has been there since 2012 and is also only 70% full. Had the misfortune last year that all the roofs were hailed to pieces, the crops were drowned and all the roofs had to be renewed due to misery, so we are also very heavy but are not a bottleneck according to the rules and then it is very sour that we have to hand in even more for other people's successors who I was also able to work elsewhere until the company is strong, which is how I had to do it at the time. If he likes to be a farmer , he will do it .

hans 13 December 2017

Colleagues in the sector are becoming increasingly clear.....

successor 14 December 2017

We built a stable in 2009 for 110 boxes and wanted to fill it ourselves with our own breeding. To date, this has not been possible due to various circumstances. We are not one of the exceptions either, but I think we just belong here. the companies that are in a pinch out of a pinch really knew what they were doing, but now they are going to cry and if they really win they will laugh at us squarely. If the government helps this group, this mismanagement is first rate.

Dirk 14 December 2017

37 years ago the same happened to me when the introduction of the quota best successor, I objected, without result, just keep your back straight, putting the dot on the I is my advice, with fewer cows, you can give them more attention yield increased, more space for the animals in the barn, more attention to the harvest, and you don't get annoyed by those who (rightly or wrongly) receive support.

pater 14 December 2017

Dirk
They are rights that they steal from us or someone else every cow currently count 8000 euros from your profit financing based on the number of cows during the super levy now - 8.3% have to buy these extra costs almost a ton while I have already bought these rights once DMV Quota Very antisocial

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Dirk 14 December 2017

someone else responds here under the name Dirk. That Dirk has a different opinion than I do. I am less naive and, like so many of us, find it unacceptable that after 01-01-18 we can keep fewer dairy cows [and therefore inherently deliver less milk] than we could within the milk quota. Thanks to the idiocy of a bunch of "colleagues" who have made themselves slaves of their own company or serf of their bank or financier. If the latter, as a so-called self-declared "trap" want to perpetuate medieval serfdom by means of extra financial support [eg for the purchase of phosphate rights], that is their choice or right. Then they pay for it themselves. But all other support that will ultimately come at the expense of the less megalomaniacs among us (read: non-growths) is simply unacceptable, even antisocial. And that also applies to the 4,3 or to some 8,3% that we now have to hand in as of 01-01-18. Then I'll just let the misery of the past year rest. If the "C" in the name of the minister's political party still has value, then she will also stand for the core value of her faith, so for justice (remove injustice) and take into account all those who do not have this debacle causes but which many do suffer from. Perhaps that other Dirk wants to call himself "stupid Dirk" in the future.

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Ronnie 14 December 2017

The allocation of phosphate rights has too high a casino content. There are those who really get into trouble because of this, this was unforeseeable. So a frugal bottleneck arrangement is in order.
In my opinion, a combination of buying up pig rights and allocating extra phosphate rights can be easily arranged for all parties.

If this doesn't work, I propose equal rights for everyone.

hans 15 December 2017

Ronnie, you're saying it right, but you're drawing the wrong conclusion. Handing out phosphate rights is like the casino, if you don't play, or at 50-50, you don't lose (much). If you put on a number, it's all or nothing. Likewise with farmers, if you do it gradually, then nothing is wrong, if you make big jumps, death or gladiolus lurks. And a "trap arrangement", name me one casino that has that?

harry 15 December 2017

Excellent arrangement

Farmer 17 December 2017

Sell 10 or 20 acres of land, buy some rights, pay off a good chunk, and live happily ever after.

Motion adopted

Cripples can count on extra support

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