Questions to Marc Calon

'Not only exclusion by LTO in case of fraud'

24 January 2018 - Esther de Snoo - 28 comments

Marc Calon, chairman of LTO Nederland, is tired of well-intentioned farmers having to suffer from those who cheat with manure or livestock. He therefore wants to expel fraudulent members as members of LTO Nederland. However, other sector parties will have to follow his example. "It makes no sense if LTO is the only party that fends off fraudulent farmers."

In recent months, the agricultural sector has been portrayed in a negative light. This by pig farmers who cheat with manure and dairy farmers who commit fraud with the registration of their livestock. Calon now wants to clean up. 

How do you want to clean up?
“Farmers who knowingly break the rules and are members of LTO Netherlands are eligible to be disbarred. The benevolent farmers are tired of suffering from those who consciously do not follow the rules. I get a lot of calls about that."

Such members do not fit in there

What kind of offense should it be?
"It's not about the small bunglers or the farmers who made a small mistake. Anyone can make a mistake. I make mistakes too. It's about the farmers who have been criminally prosecuted and where that prosecution has led to a conviction. We want are a reliable partner for the government and such members do not fit in."

Have you already discussed this within LTO Netherlands?
"We are discussing this with each other. Not only within LTO Netherlands, but also with other sector partners such as Rabobank, the Dutch Dairy Organization (NZO) and other large buyers and suppliers of farmers. It is not entirely new, by the way. In the past the ZLTO has already expelled members because of abuses."

What role do the sector partners have in fraud issues?
"It makes no sense if LTO Nederland is the only party that fends off fraudulent farmers. Dairy cooperatives and banks also have a role to play in this. For example, no longer collecting milk from farmers who have deliberately broken the rules or have stopped. of the financing. We are discussing this with each other."

When do you expect to be clear about this?
"Tackling members is more complex than it may seem. The main thing is that we want to treat our members properly. We are working on a procedure for dealing with fraudulent members and where we draw the line. The statutes may need to be adjusted accordingly. This is going to take months. We have to be a reliable sector. That's what it's all about."

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28 comments
peta 24 January 2018
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What am I reading now?! LTO wants to be a reliable partner for the government?
And the members can afford that? I would first state that LTO represents the interests of the members! Whether the government is happy with that comes a long time later!!! Not with the face to the government and with your back to the members!!!
Partying Farmer 24 January 2018
He who digs a pit for another...

Does the last farmer to cancel his membership remember to turn off the light?

Dear Ms. Schouten,
Have a conversation with the sector and not with an echo well from the Ministry (LTO)
peta 24 January 2018
During the application procedure for a new chairman, the selection committee forgot to ask whether the candidate was prepared to go up the barricades for the members. Well and now an official is pulling the cart? Well, he pulls as befits a civil servant.
GJB 24 January 2018
here it is suggested that pig farmers only cheat with manure, there are more parties involved. think of traders and other sectors. only the livestock industry pretended to be better, but now it turns out that they do this too and not on a small scale if the numbers are true. everywhere where money is concerned there is fraud. there are unfortunately a lot of people here with butter on their heads
hans 25 January 2018
Petatje, you also know that the LTO is largely funded, so it is maintained by the government. The LTO is the conduit for new rules, and mainly exists by explaining and implementing these new rules in so-called member meetings to the members, farmers. Carry out work that is outsourced by the government. And those members, oh, they belong...
Jos 25 January 2018
In fact I have to agree with Calon/LTO. But they have also made reasonable mistakes, just think how they have responded to the ending of the milk quota. They have also been too eager. for the future I want to keep the farmers on the missteps that are yet to be made. Apparently it's part of life. The trick is how to get out of this with as few scratches as possible.
ae 25 January 2018
By just doing it and not acting too panicked, you will get through it. A small child still knew that there is fraud with numbers. Another thing that comes to the fore is the milk that farmers sell themselves or a milk tap. If the production on paper is low, then you do not have to count for phosphate rights. We used to call that consumer quota. In short, there are still so many holes in the system. I wonder what will be next.
pet 25 January 2018
hans wrote:
Petatje, you also know that the LTO is largely funded, so it is maintained by the government. The LTO is the conduit for new rules, and mainly exists by explaining and implementing these new rules in so-called member meetings to the members, farmers. Carry out work that is outsourced by the government. And those members, oh, they belong...

Hans that of that conduit of government policy, I agree with you. They have become that because they no longer have the farmers' interests in their goals and dare to propagate them. The directors are asleep while their employees/lobbyists squander the sector. These people never say no from their position in a consultation with civil servants, that is not their fault and they do not earn a euro more or less for it!
But this giving away of interests is indeed paid for by the peasant members.
Lto still claims for the buhne that 70 percent of the farmers are members. Well in my area, I know from the organization of a number of activities, it is less than 40%. And it will automatically become less if the central management does not even set clear goals in defending the members' interests and clearly denouncing the bureaucratic mistakes and exaggerated figures with which the sector is seriously injusted in the resulting rules!
In this way, after all, LTO no longer has the right to speak with the government because it represents a minority of the practicing agricultural companies. So it is in the interest of all administrators to go to work and defend primarily agricultural interests in word and deed. Standing up to threats unites people, LTO should know that! The only way to retain and get members back is to make a fist!
hans 25 January 2018
Petatje, doesn't LTO do the same as its farmers? LTO claims to exist from and for its members, but in order to maintain its raison d'être, it is dependent on the government and conforms to everything it desires. The farmers who say they live on and for their farms, but in reality are completely dependent on the government, single payment entitlements and subsidies, and do everything it requires. Both often disagree, but no longer have a choice. This open communication and acceptance by both parties would give a clearer picture of the situation.
hans 25 January 2018
Today's farmer is a modern civil servant. Its income is paid by the government, its fruits serve to enrich land and multinationals. The farmer is a second Groningen gas field for the government, the government and multinationals take the benefits, but the burdens are for ordinary people.
surrogate 25 January 2018
why does lto feel addressed?
sandals 25 January 2018
if lto expels cheating livestock farmers, will inviolable members and board remain in the club?
is this real policy?
there is a new and expensive name for such a club "lto utpica".
jpkievit 25 January 2018
Lto drivers do 100% to achieve the best result in a very densely populated country then it is wrong to call them bag fillers the best helmsmen are ashore without Lto there is no agricultural sector anymore
peter 25 January 2018
Due to mismanagement by the government and LTO, 2017 cows had to be slaughtered in 160.000!!!

Then the government, LTO, NZO and the rest of the eating club had. present a comprehensive phosphate program in 2014!!!!
wig maker 25 January 2018
Livestock farming should have been land-based a long time ago
are like the rest of Europe.
Instead of being given chicken rights, pig rights and phosphate rights, they make war among themselves.
Sooner or later you will be presented with the bill and that time seems to have come.
peta 25 January 2018
jpkievit wrote:
Lto drivers do 100% to achieve the best result in a very densely populated country then it is wrong to call them bag fillers the best helmsmen are ashore without Lto there is no agricultural sector anymore

Dear Mr Kievit, I have been doing it for several years without a membership because I have experienced several times during my membership that the organization left me alone in disputes with government authorities. They let me solve this myself because they were afraid for their good relationship with those authorities! I managed to manage things without them and I no longer need them to look after my interests. The background of my departure is well known to a number of directors. More if one shrugs their shoulders when their lobbyists drop out and let the members themselves take the hot coals from the fire then it holds for me oh.
peter 25 January 2018
1 since lto has also introduced a ban on plow (in favor of the chemical industry and agricultural machinery lobby).
2 compulsory injecting manure and driving out of the period increasingly tight, while the farmer in the rest of Europe has very different application techniques and periods. (bounce better for soil life and leaching) are no longer a member of this club.
3More and more rules,
laws, obligations and cost
approve increases, we have
decided to cancel the membership
to end!

We have switched to network Thorough and like it!!
border farmer 25 January 2018
haha, no longer being a member of LTO is seen as a punishment, I see it as a favor! The last 40 years they have done little good for the sector. It is a pity that the government still sees them as a representative of our sector. How big is the % that LTO still represents? Not in members but in production units. The sleepers will remain members, the entrepreneurs have long left LTO....
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Dirk 25 January 2018
Every now and then a bit of gossip is written down here, which sometimes gives you a sense of vicarious shame.
So be it.
Annelies 25 January 2018
in this neighborhood lto only stands up for arable farming and greenhouse horticulture
as far as they are concerned, all livestock sectors can simply screw up, they forget that animals are living beings, then a cow murder plan can never be justified, but both lto and the government apparently don't care
peter 25 January 2018
Yes Dirk you say it right. All those NVWs who have to eat the extra pot of 20 million and the rest who eat outside. First with the fipronil chickens (stricter standards in the Netherlands, then in the rest of Europe. then with the manure fraud and now with IR. The money has to be spent and the chosen direction is good for politics. the climate goals of Paris for 2 have been achieved for the Netherlands.
Jl 25 January 2018
Lto also simply lets members who have been taken in by Rabo, Interpolis and NVAE, Interpolis' own appraisers association, burst. fetch. Lto should be ashamed of himself.
Jan 26 January 2018
Wigmaker, you are absolutely right, if livestock farming had focused much earlier on sustainable, ie 'soil-bound', that would have saved us a lot of rules and therefore also fraud. Now we are 'beautiful' again in the eyes of the rest of society. But let's be sober, farmers are people too and where there are people in combination with rules, there is also fraud. Now it is up to the government to tackle this fraud hard.
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de Boer 26 January 2018
Someone who commits fraud has no right to speak.
Rules are not meant to be broken, I think, no matter how unreasonable they are...
peta 26 January 2018
deBoer wrote:
Someone who commits fraud has no right to speak.
Rules are not meant to be broken, I think, no matter how unreasonable they are...

Breaking rules is not allowed.
Imposing unreasonable rules is just as bad!
A government that does not understand this creates anarchy.
hans 26 January 2018
Unreasonable rules?? I know a lot of rules in the Netherlands that are much more unreasonable than the livestock and manure rules, and have existed for much longer, and apply to everyone. But anarchy? Even in elections nothing changes, so people take it! Farmers, stop complaining and deal with violators.
Harmsen 26 January 2018
Calon is a loose cannon and Labor Party member. It is incomprehensible that LTO has appointed such an opportunist after a real farmer foreman. See the Agro list, LTO has lost a lot of influence with the appointment of Calon.
Gerrit 26 January 2018
lto doesn't expel anyone
they will soon be able to explain why they have not complied with this nonsense.
Bottoms 28 January 2018
Of course no one is expelled. How else would you want to become a minister without supporters?
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