It appears from letter to parliament

Schouten: 'Understanding the frustration of dairy farmers'

12 February 2018 - Esther de Snoo - 30 comments

Minister Carola Schouten (Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality) says it is very annoying that a number of farmers have been unjustly blocked. She wrote this in a letter to the House of Representatives on Monday 12 February.

Schouten refers in the letter to the 150 farmers which have been unjustly blocked since last week due to the fraud investigation. Schouten: "I find it very annoying that a number of entrepreneurs have been confronted with a blockage, while this should not have been the case. I understand that this frustrating is. This was quickly rectified after this was discovered."

Dairy farmers are unblocked

This group of 150 dairy farmers has received a letter from the Dutch Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority (NVWA) stating that the blockade has been lifted. The letter also contains an explanation for the unblocking.

Another 2.000 companies blocked
According to Schouten, more than 2.000 companies are currently blocked. Schouten lays in the letter from that 50 companies have made the I&R system sound again. "Up to now, more than 50 companies have corrected their registrations, after which the blockade has been lifted by the NVWA. In these cases, the farmer has provided statements from Rendac, milk lists, invoices or other written reasons."

Small number of animals 
She calls on the other blocked farmers to make the I&R system sound and to have DNA tested if necessary. "It will differ from case to case whether the mistakes were made intentionally or not. A small irregularity in I&R registration can make a major financial difference for an entrepreneur in the phosphate reduction plan 2017," said Schouten in the letter. She emphasizes that irregularities should not occur in the administration.

Overloaded
Schouten further states that several hundred blocked dairy farmers contacted the Netherlands Enterprise Agency this weekend. Despite the expansion, the customer contact team has become overloaded and not every caller has received an answer. That is why callback agreements have been made. 

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Farmer1 12 February 2018
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I was wrongfully blocked and already submitted proof on Saturday. Haven't heard anything yet! Do not come through the line at the RVO. scandalous
Farmer2 12 February 2018
She should have thought of this sooner. If they had first sent a letter with the announcement that there was an error in the i&r system. Would she have received more appreciation than she is now
shoemakers1 12 February 2018
I asked a question to RVO on Wednesday, the rule is that there will be an answer within 2 working days, have not received anything yet, parliamentary questions???
farmer's wife1 12 February 2018
It would have been nicer if they had simply received a letter with an error message containing a term within which you can recover.
In this way, she gives the sector a blow that will go down well with the ignorant Netherlands and will be abused again by the Party of the Animals.
Ton Westgeest 12 February 2018
As with the tax authorities, they probably let the wrong people leave the NVWA. With handshake!!!

The unprofessional approach looks like the Fipronil affair nines on. That with unfounded figures that make no sense, to come out in the media, looks like publicity-horny elderly people who want to show their latest trick in news hour!

"That's why callback agreements have been made." Please ask what year they call back.... After 7 calls to RVO last week, and the promise that the legal department would call back about the mistakes made, I gave up!!
piet 12 February 2018
Egt deeply sad that an agriculture minister works like this. The agricultural sector is being destroyed so much. Just completed the reduction, which was an outrageous claim and is due to terrible negligence on the part of the government. Are they now going to check and enforce the leaking IenR your own bunch of fools
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scarf 12 February 2018
When will the day come, when we will all throw the mess flat, and no longer deliver a liter of milk under these monstrous conditions??
You can't do this to a normal person!
Fines real fraud, but this is going big steps too far!

It's so low to the ground, the dogs don't like it.
Willingly and knowingly, our beautiful sector is being thrown away!
shoemakers1 13 February 2018
in 40-45 certain population groups also had to pay for it, many had to pay with death, it was stated at a certain point, this never again, but our society is capable of the same, strange but, the future will show that I I'm right, and yes, I'm just warning
Farmer24 13 February 2018
This is a minister who will not let grass grow on it.
That administration is there for a reason if another foot and mouth crisis were to break out and the administration is not correct, then the fence of the dam would break out.
We wanted to become quota free, now we are, but farmers thought to grow but knew about the rules that exist. I think that a farmer can also get more milk in the tank with the right nutrition.
Why the expansion
I also think it sucks for arable farmers if they can deliver more than has been agreed according to contract or quota and then get a fine
There are so many families that would benefit from this.
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Dirk 13 February 2018
For older people, who suffer from delusions that evoke associations with a distant past and are not relevant here with regard to the subject matter, it may be wise for them to seek help through their general practitioner at a mental health center near their home. residence.
Gerbrand 13 February 2018
Very vigilant action by the Ministry, to rectify errors immediately. Farmers can be 'pissed' about this, but that is unjustified, if thousands of farmers have committed fraud. Let the innocent frustrated farmers be mad at fraudulent farmers. Would like a little more self-cleaning power. This does not include understanding from the Minister.
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Dirk 13 February 2018
Fortunately, they are still there.
Gerbrand, you are a man after my own heart.
No 13 February 2018
If it really turns out that there are companies that have knowingly committed fraud, then I believe that their entire company should be forfeited.
Compensate the other entrepreneurs from any proceeds.
But it won't surprise me that in a few months' time there will be a limited number of companies that have committed fraud, and that the rest can be blamed on systems that do not communicate well and small mistakes.
No 13 February 2018
If it really turns out that there are companies that have knowingly committed fraud, then I believe that their entire company should be forfeited.
Compensate the other entrepreneurs from any proceeds.
But it won't surprise me that in a few months' time there will be a limited number of companies that have committed fraud, and that the rest can be blamed on systems that do not communicate well and small mistakes.
piet 13 February 2018
This way you show your stupidity again. With that unwise act. You should be ashamed of yourself, the whole agricultural sector is wrongly judged guilty. And how long will this sophisticated position continue?
j east peat 13 February 2018
luckily there is still realism.
admit a small mistake but loathe the system.
gerbrand a man with realism
a fine for drink or speeding then you are not a murderer either
while many fatal accidents have this as the cause
let's cherish the assurance systems and tackle the excesses harder
fipronil :: too cautious action taken
farmer22 13 February 2018
Hi Gerbrand and Dirk,
Do you really know what's going on?
And can we not make mistakes anymore???? We are also just people who work and where mistakes are made.
An error of 1 animal with us at CRV or RVO and therefore a company blockade!
Then 2 % (low) twins and now 6 animals DNA tested!!!
And why DNA???? If they don't believe it, they have to prove otherwise. And if it's not right, you can be fined.
It's a media event and knocking! That's not how you treat companies. Block everything at once?? Fortunately, it has already dropped from 7000 to 2000 in 2 weeks. This says enough....
Of course there are some who must have willingly broken the rules....
But that happens in every industry...
farmer 13 February 2018
It is a pity that we as farmers are put in such a bad light after 1 mistake, when will RVO's mistakes be in the news? We were fined 14000 euros for the phosphate reduction plan because RVO makes a mistake with the livestock balance card. Already reported in November that the count is incorrect but still not restored.....well that's what we as farmers should do.
FarmerM 13 February 2018
Indeed, there is a lot of justified dissatisfaction with the RVO. Especially if you have to get money back from them, this will take months and months. We were also unfairly discounted on our subsidy. This has even gone to court. The judge ruled in our favor. RVO had to repay. We only received the money after 8 months, thanks to our lawyer who was always behind it. The Netherlands is not happy with its farmers at all, that is clear from everything. On the day (January 23) that the 'large-scale fraud in dairy farming' was in the news, the news also came that the Netherlands is again below the phosphate ceiling set by the EU after 3 years. I have not heard a compliment from the ministry. While we as dairy farmers have achieved this with a lot of pain in our hearts. No crowdfunding campaigns for our 'Hermienen' with us. No, just the negative is widely reported. Bah, what a country!
Ard Eshuis 13 February 2018
Dirk, Gerbrand and Oostveen apparently have no idea what is really going on: namely deliberately damaging the sector, without really having a reason to do so.
Many mistakes have been made in the RVO/CRV/Rendac system that farmers have no part in. A real minister of LNV abhors that and ensures that all blockages are lifted immediately and it can be arranged via paper/computer!

So many things have gone wrong at RVO that the farmers in question should not become victims of this. The real fraudsters will (hopefully) really have a picture of them after 14 days and they can be severely punished by RVO and by colleagues, no problem at all!
Peter 13 February 2018
Much of this situation can be directly attributed to digitization where no human being is involved: the system decides… until someone thinks, empathizes / digs into things and rings the bell.
this is how society works and we have it all to ourselves. Why are we doing this?
Even if there are deaths, major accidents, these kinds of 'accidents' will continue to exist.
Because we don't think we can do it without ICT; you can, but then 'you don't keep up with the times'. So you have to use such a prosthesis called a 'smart' phone.

Pumping stations, power stations controlled by ICT, with which specialists who knew everything about the situation have been phased out, no longer determine what happens. But when serious intervention is required, the buttons are no longer available.
What about the super modern tractor? Who really knows how that thing works? How many skilled technicians are there left?
And we made it happen ourselves. Because that's how 'we' want it. Really and truly?
geert 13 February 2018
This minister is unbelievable with her soothing words
geert 13 February 2018
Nice words from the minister that is of no use!
peta 13 February 2018
State lawsuit is in order!
How dare this minister mess with his sector like that. The word understanding is totally misplaced here! This does not compensate for damage and unnecessary expenses.
What a mess this is. You must have it from the government! Not so!!!
peasant "savage" 13 February 2018
Proceedings against the state are in order! And not a daily allowance of a few tens! LTO has to work hard on reasonable compensation!
The entire dairy sector has another delicious one
Got hit! Priceless!
2000 euro fee per company would be a good gesture of unnecessarily locking all companies!
peasant "savage" 13 February 2018
Proceedings against the state are in order! And not a daily allowance of a few tens! LTO has to work hard on reasonable compensation!
The entire dairy sector has another delicious one
Got hit! Priceless!
2000 euro fee per company would be a good gesture of unnecessarily locking all companies!
jpkievit 14 February 2018
Lto ned has made unworkable agreements with the government about asbestos, manure law and phosphate law 80% of the lto members do not support this all on the globe pollute not only the agricultural sector flying is almost free
Ik 14 February 2018
Are you talking about heifers that "didn't" calve? Why then check all 2 lings with the fatteners. These are all slaughtered within a year. Then only check for heifers that would not have calved!
dissatisfaction 23 February 2018
then when you call you can first wait for hours then you will be sent from pillar to post then you will be told that the system is not working properly then from the wall to the cabinet to have heard nothing after 14 days
Calves older than 30 days are no longer allowed to leave how are we going to solve this??
dissatisfaction 23 February 2018
we have a heifer and a cow calved one in feb and one in aug both a dead calf due to crowds forget the mother animal stupid of course both are sampled both count for full in the phosphate rights at rendac and crv the data can be viewed immediately! ! so nothing no messing with phosphates or something like that company locked. Soon another fine for sale
Who eats in this country of 2 wallets?????
jpkievit 26 February 2018
Unpredictable rules drawn up by the government lto ned greenpeace and the green left
Applies to open cultivation in the Dutch agricultural sector encourages fraud
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