Interview Edwin Burgers

'Future market is something for every dairy farmer'

10 August 2018 - Herma van den Pol - 13 comments

The European Energy Exchange (EEX) launches the futures market for raw milk on Wednesday 15 August. It gives dairy farmers the opportunity to change from a price taker to a price setter. Is it something for every dairy farmer? Edwin Burgers, director of DCA Finance BV, talks about the new futures market.

Why is a raw milk futures market being launched?
"In recent years, prices in the dairy market have started to move more and the price movements have also increased. This is due to the growing influence of the world market on European pricing. As a result, producers have a need to manage risks The futures market is a way to manage the price risk; the price can be fixed for part of the product. skimmed milk powder and butter this was already possible indirectly, but this has not really caught on among livestock farmers. It turned out to be a 'far-from-my-bed' show for the livestock farmer. The raw milk contract should make the futures market more accessible."

What will happen after the kick-off of the futures market?
"The futures market will start on August 15. Then you enter a pilot phase. It will probably take quite some time before dairy farmers structurally trade on the futures market. The first challenge is to increase awareness. They have probably heard of it before, for example via colleagues in arable farming (who have been working with a futures market for much longer) or because colleagues do something with feed on the futures market. Nevertheless, most dairy farmers have limited knowledge of the futures market."

How can a livestock farmer increase his knowledge about risk management?
"It's similar to learning to swim. You don't get thrown in at the deep end, but it starts small. Learn how the markets work and take courses about the futures market (DCA also facilitates this). In addition, it is important that processors and cooperatives use it. to make it; it takes a certain volume to make the market liquid. The need to make this a success is greater than in the past. The market has evolved and uncertainties have been added. The futures market is part of the spectrum of the modern livestock farmer."

Uncertainties have been added

Who is the raw milk futures market for? 
"For every dairy farmer. It's not about whether there are 100 or 600 cows on the farm. It's about trying it once. As long as you've never worked with it, you don't know if it suits you. one entrepreneur is better at dealing with the tension than another, but it is wise to delve into it."

How important is it to the industry?
"In the future, it may also have a positive effect on the financier. I know (because DCA Finance has been active on the potato futures market for many years) that the farmer who is active on the futures market has a better financial return. company (barn, feed, labour, cows, etc.) influence, but not on the milk price. He is a price taker and not a price setter. It is also not inconceivable that processors will offer click contracts in the future. It will be a challenge for processors to and/or to facilitate suppliers." 

How can you, as a dairy farmer, become active in the futures market?
"To trade on the futures market, you need a special account. It cannot be opened through a regular bank. You can access the EEX in Leipzig through an intermediary (such as DCA Finance), which is supervised by the Netherlands Authority for the Financial Markets ( AFM) and De Nederlandsche Bank (DNB). The complicated part of the new contract is the delivery month and the Cash Settlement. A dairy farmer continues to supply his milk to his own customer. The farmer simply receives his milk money from the customer."

"At the same time, he can cover his milk price for September, for example because he expects the price to fall. The settlement takes place in November and that is also the name of the contract: 'the November contract'. The milk for October comes under 'the December contract'. ', etc. It is not uncommon for dairy farmers that there is a period between the delivery of the milk and its payment. The return (obtained on the futures market) can then be seen as a supplementary payment. The other side is that there is ( if the market price turns out to be higher than expected) additional payment must be made on the futures market position."

What is the most important advice for trading the futures market?
"Two things are important when trading the futures market: think in advance what an acceptable milk price is and ensure that there are sufficient liquid assets to be able to pre-finance. Keeping a futures market position requires liquidity (also called margin). The latter is necessary, because the futures market can also work against the expected and then money has to be added. Ultimately, the futures market serves as a kind of insurance (if the dairy market and with it the payout price falls) and not as a means to make more profit."

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Herman van den Pol

Herma van den Pol has been with us since 2011 Boerenbusiness and has developed over the years into a market expert Milk & Feed. In addition, she can be seen weekly in the market flash about the dairy market.
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13 comments
January 11 August 2018
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That this form of speculation has caused famines deserves mention in this promotional article. Or is that irrelevant to a farmer?
Hendriksen 15 August 2018
You didn't understand Jan.
Otherwise, immerse yourself in the functioning of a futures market with a cash settlement settlement.
Piet 15 August 2018
Futures markets play on sentiment, as if you can do it right or wrong. On balance, of course, it costs money, which flows to those who facilitate this. Compare it with the casino, the tent there must be paid. A single player earns the jackpot, most cost the money.
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Hendriksen 16 August 2018
I don't know how to respond to so much stupidity.
hans 16 August 2018
Then stop Hendriksen, Jan and Piet are right after all.
Futures market is like the stock market, small players are manipulated, big boys earn capital. The futures market is yet another cash register where the caterpillar never wants to cash out enough.

For farmers, there is only one that can save them: politics. Solutions would include: level playing fields in terms of production conditions, equal treatment between suppliers with regard to tax, taxing all fuels equally, open borders for all or nothing, etc.
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Hendriksen 16 August 2018
Yes, put your faith in politics and you'll be fine.
In the futures market, as a hedging agent, you are in control.

There will probably be lectures about the futures market soon. Just go there Hans, Piet and Jan.
Then you might know what you're talking about.
hans 16 August 2018
If you no longer have faith in the politics of your country, I would move quickly. Or at least do (or not) do something so that you benefit from that policy.
January 18 August 2018
@Hendriksen check the history. For guys like Cargill and ADM, for whom conscience or morality are irrelevant, the futures market is an ideal instrument on the road to more. The price-increasing offence has cost many lives. Or are experiential facts not welcome in your honest deliberations?
Hendriksen 19 August 2018
How then Jan?
January 20 August 2018
@Hendriksen. Like I said, check the history. In times of surpluses, a futures market does not have much influence on the price. Hedging is therefore less applicable. In times of shortages, the futures market drives the price up through speculation. Many can no longer afford that inflated price and starvation victims are victims of the greed that the futures market needs.
After all, it is possible to speculate with non-existent quantities.
At a certain point, those quantities have to be delivered and that happens at the higher asking price.
Again, check the history of the grain trade and then in times of shortages.
shoemakers1 21 August 2018
Dear Jan, where can I deliver my product if I have sold the futures market?
gerard 21 August 2018
there are more losers than winners in the futures market
the winner is the man who closes the forward contracts, that cest always
Jan 23 August 2018
@schoenmakers1 Do you mean physical? With the buyer of your futures contract on the contract date. Once the paper trade is finished and physical product is delivered. That wouldn't work any differently for milk than it would with milk, would it?
Jan 24 August 2018
@schoenmakers1 correction That won't work any differently for milk than with potatoes, will it?
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