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Background Phosphate rights system

Irritated Schouten sticks to her position

14 December 2018 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 20 comments

Minister Carola Schouten of Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality maintains her position that she sees no room for the bottlenecks in the phosphate rights system. She does talk to them. 

In the general consultation 'Manure policy' and 'Irregularities Identification and Registration (I&R)' from Thursday 13 December, a tired and somewhat irritated Schouten could be seen. The tenor of the debate was that the agricultural spokespersons of the various parties agree that the phosphate rights system does not deserve a beauty prize.

That is why they want to look for solutions for dairy farmers who are in danger of going under. However, Minister Schouten does not want to deviate from the line she took earlier.

Innovative from the Knel
With a group of about 50 dairy farmers, Innovative from de Knel occupied a large part of the stand. They accuse Schouten of having allocated too many phosphate rights. When asked how this is possible, a repetition of the arguments from the letter to Parliament of December 7† "It is partly due to the objections submitted, partly to the fact that the data from the Netherlands Enterprise Agency (RVO.nl) turned out to be not accurate enough, and partly to the fact that something was distributed to the troublemakers."

Schouten promised to enter into discussions with RVO.nl, Statistics Netherlands and Innovative from de Knel to go over the reference date, the phosphate rights allocated and the production of phosphate. Schouten clearly indicated that the phosphate bank can therefore not open for the time being: "There should not be any more rights on the market. The phosphate bank is therefore not a solution for the bottlenecks."

Pigs and Poultry
The ceiling for pig phosphate will not be lowered either. Schouten is very firm about this: "Through the warm remediation rights will be withdrawn from the market and the number of pigs will fall as a result. However, the ceiling will not be formally lowered." This ceiling has been laid down in the sixth Nitrates Directive action program and will soon be enshrined in law. Schouten therefore has no intention of making any changes now.

In the poultry sector, ducks are removed from the phosphate reduction count. "Formally, these do not fall under the 'poultry' category, but under the 'other' category," she reports. However, CBS did include ducks in phosphate production for poultry.

Monitor self-cleaners 
A fixed milk production of 7.500 kilos per cow is used for self-dairies. Now that one of the largest dairy farms in the Netherlands has announced that it will become a self-dairy dairy, the question has been raised whether this will not be an escape route for the phosphate rights. The minister indicated that he would monitor this closely and intervene if necessary.

The conclusion?
Schouten sticks to the line she has started. It means that there is no room for the bottlenecks and for the continuation of various new generic measures. The evening did not bring new hope for the participants of Innovative from the Knel.

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Padre 15 December 2018
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/melk/ artikel/10880788/ge-rriteerde-schouten-blijft-bij-haar-standpunt]Irritated Schouten sticks to her position[/url]
It's good that tyrants don't get his way
Everyone is equal at Schouten .
In 1983 the big bastards were right and the rest had to hand in 18%. This can not be made against the rest who have behaved properly. A big compliment to Schouten in this regard
milker for nothing 15 December 2018
That's how it is Pater, that's entrepreneurs risk who has to burn his butt on the blisters. It is to be hoped that Schouten will filter out the crooks who knew what was coming [lto and fc drivers].
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Arnold 15 December 2018
Father Is that your name?? Go all the way with the past, but now the present. Entrepreneurs who have made decisions in the past based on laws and regulations with the improvements in view and who have received all yes all parties who have even encouraged them. And then the frames will be moved during the game, shouldn't there be a transition arrangement?
That's different than what you were referring to. Under the current circumstances, as an entrepreneur, how can you make structural decisions with regard to your company, knowing that tomorrow will apply and what will not apply today. And keep in mind that structural changes will have to take place in the near future. How do you deal with such an unreliable government?
Jannes 15 December 2018
The soilless growers have caused the problem and now will certainly reward. If we had all set up our company like the land-bound farmers, so no more cattle than land, we would still have been sitting nicely under the ceiling and not have had all this misery.
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Arnold 15 December 2018
For nothing milker, as a farmer I tell you vain hopes.
Padre 15 December 2018
For nothing fancier you have to tackle the friends of these drivers I can see it in the South in Asten Heusden there is a very big crook in Leende and Westerbeek and everyone knows a few in his environment who have arranged things well for themselves Take away all major discrepancies around the date yourself because this is insider trading
Pieter 15 December 2018
The 2013 LTO agricultural vision stated that land-relatedness would become painful. So I think farmers who have invested in this are much more innovative than those who have just invested in concrete.
Joop 15 December 2018
What many still don't understand: We live with 17 million Dutch people on a damn small stamp. People don't want mega stables anymore. The Pig Farm has already ruined this in the past, now the Dairy Farmers still don't learn anything from it and the Goat Farmers are fortunately also stopped (too late). It was already predictable ten years ago that large companies are now on the brink! Expanding in mega stables is still only for your own wallet - at the expense of family businesses that also have to bleed for the image problem that this creates. - Nobody is waiting for this anymore.....
Padre 15 December 2018
Arnold the rules of the game have not changed during the game but they know that something was coming and everyone is free to anticipate it but if it goes wrong then you also have to be a guy and solve everything yourself that the others have to companies we also built a barn in 2013 and our barn has not been bought full of land and no money to buy more cows, then I would also like to get free rights and this group of farmers does not get that either and they have the same problem like that group that built in 2014 or in 2015 So everyone has a problem or bottleneck in one way or another
Henkie 15 December 2018
Back to 2014!!!!!!!!!!, this year was a small surplus. Sharon Dijksma has said that when the dairy herd increases after the milk quota era, animal rights would be introduced. Average over the year 2014 would then be leading!!!! Unfortunately not laid down in legislation.
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Bertie 15 December 2018
no mega stables but ground-based family farms, we have to go there again, 1 person per farm with about 90 cows, then a family life is also possible and we have to think carefully about that, that is why the minister should absolutely not meet the growers come
French 15 December 2018
Grandpa was satisfied with 10 cows, father with 30 and I with 90. The sons do another factor 3 with 250 cows. Get used to it, the economy continues as usual and agriculture is no exception. Moreover, it is hypocritical to hold on to Ot and Sien and not to feed yourself from the local small miller, regional bank, own bull, woman behind the stove, etc. The fuss about land-bound mainly comes from those who know the luck of a cheap heritage. Let Schouten stick to her good points of view.
pig farmer 15 December 2018
What warm remediation does she mean?
There could be 1 namely switching the birder plan from pig rights to phosphate rights
would certainly yield a few € 100 more than the few cents of now and large pig farmers can make their move compared to
the stoppers or doubters.
But they prefer to let everything break down.
Skirt 16 December 2018
Get rid of the real entrepreneurs first, then the rest comes. Is a proven system that has been used several times in the past (Stalin).
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wig maker 16 December 2018
As a farmer I say, Henkie is right.
You simply have to reduce the extenders proportionally on the phosphate rights from the abolition of the quota.
It cannot be the case that 1 date can be decisive for how many phosphate rights you will receive.
You just destroy companies and people just destroy.
Those who have traded with inside information investigate the matter and take all their phosphate rights that come 6 months before the infamous date.
Berta 24 17 December 2018
Father, the rules of the game have definitely changed during the game. For many farmers those rules are still not clear!!!
Joop, those mega stables are also not desirable in my opinion, but it is precisely those large companies that come out well!! Those mega companies with far too little land have received their mega rights. The smaller companies that have made a modest adjustment, are having a hard time. We are such a company, with ample land and an expansion from 70 to 90 cows. Nothing mega stable, but a fine of 20.000 euros, because we weren't finished building with that damn date. The number of animals required, but they had not yet calved at the time, so they only counted for half or even a quarter of a cow, so far too few rights.
You win the lawsuit, so they say there's no more culling. But then they appeal and turn the whole tent back, so at the end of the year, with retroactive effect, right? How do you do that???
Shooting is shame!!! She's destroying the industry!
??? !!! 17 December 2018
Dear Bertha, the sector (primary agricultural sector) is above 100% self-sufficient.
Every extra litre, egg, onion, potato, pig, pepper, etc. etc. is politically at the expense of 'environment' so indeed: everything will go back to less, except famine.
And there the shore will turn the ship in due course; so first stick with it for another 5-15 years.
Island 17 December 2018
the go-getters win. less and less land less manure less pesticides and more drought people will soon pay big for food indeed another 10 years or so and we will be the heroes
??? !!! 17 December 2018
No Island, the farmers will never be heroes again.
As soon as food becomes scarce, all borders are opened up the other way around: requirements are dropped. You can blame the Politics and the Green and the Left a lot, but not that they are steadfast.
kalf 18 December 2018
I don't think that 1983 scam is going to happen again. But something will have to be arranged again, to save the insider extensions. Both the banks and the dairies have deliberately directed this. but a small number (bank slaves without their own opinion and heavily financed) assumed in advance that something would be arranged at the expense of the non-growth.
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