Farmers are going to dump milk again 10 years later

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Robert 9 September 2019

This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/melk/ artikel/10883924/boeren-gaan-10-jaar-na-dato-weer-melk-dumpen]Farmers will be dumping milk again 10 years after date[/url]

'Powerful' statement that won't impress anyone. I can already see the headlines in my mind:

"Dutch livestock farmers first pollute the environment with milk production and then throw the milk away in Belgium."

Throw away 3.000.000 liters of milk with a value of € 10.000.

You just have to come up with it in order to bring your 'poverty' to the attention.

sustainable producer 9 September 2019

robert is a farmer at heart and thinks it is shameful that someone wants to take the chestnuts out of the fire for him.
robert thinks that the milk price that fellow dairy farmers receive is ridiculously good.
I think, but I must be wrong that ROBERT is a wolf in sheep's clothing. you cannot build a fair milk price with ROBERT.

Bert 10 September 2019

There are currently more important issues in Dutch livestock farming that are more threatening to many companies than the milk price.
Only problems and statements of d 66, but DDB you do not hear about it!

hans 10 September 2019

Yes, Bertje, as long as you can grow!

Retards like you have screwed up Dutch agriculture, not me me me and the rest can suffocate and if it only seems, Iig bigger than the neighbor.

Idiot.

surrogate 10 September 2019

Bert thinks a fair milk price and a fair farmer's income are not that important.
Bert wants to continue to keep a lot of cattle.
Bert we think you like cattle more than farmers?

Bert 10 September 2019

Take a good look at the step before you start yelling.
The ruling of the Supreme Court currently mainly has consequences for companies that do not want to grow at all, but have made a report in the past in the context of the mandatory NB Act permit application.
Many get a ban on fertilizing and grazing cows, the ban on grazing can be solved by stalling the cows again, but fertilizing your land is still essential for your company.
And I don't speak for myself but for the colleagues who have this uncertainty.
I milk 60 cows myself Did I screw up agriculture Hans ?
I also refer to the statements of politicians who want to halve the livestock, the livestock has almost halved in recent decades, at the time of the designation of the Natura 2000 areas by Minister Brinkhorst there were a million more cows, and the ammonia emissions have been reduced. efficient also 65% reduced we've already done enough!
But if you then start shouting like DDB that we don't earn anything, that is grist to the mill of these opponents to clean up the sector!

Robert 10 September 2019

@ Sustainable producer.

I have a better idea. Stick to 1 tanker of milk and deposit it in Hein Schumacher's garden. It determines what you get for your milk - not Brussels.

hans 10 September 2019

Bert, the whole mess of rules is there because the milk price is too low, and has been for decades.
Growing in production, more milk and/or cows was talked about by "the scientists" as a solution. That this growth in production would be without consequences is an illusion that many liked to believe. PAS is one of those consequences of production expansion.
Maybe(!) you didn't screw up agriculture, so don't defend those who did or you'll be just as guilty.

Since 1980, an employee has worked much fewer hours for much better working conditions.
Employers/other companies were immediately tax-compensated for many tax increases, or were given the freedom to replace personnel or even branches from or to elsewhere, with all the associated financial benefits.
Why did farmers in the same period give everything away, enslaving themselves to their business and the bank?

peter 12 September 2019

@Hans why are we not allowed to pay Eastern European workers below the Dutch minimum wage, for example the minimum wage of their own country? This is punishable!, but it is not punishable for multinationals to buy and sell products in these low-wage countries! And the politicians don't do anything about this.....
If the Netherlands has very high welfare standards and foreigners do not, then multinationals prefer to buy cheaply abroad! RFC would also rather lose its members than rich because these are much too expensive with their milk compared to buying in low-wage countries.

In other words, if politics (as Trump is already doing) does not apply import duties on products from low-wage countries, you will have to compete with low-wage countries and this can only be produced with a lot at low costs. if the politicians are going to levy import taxes, etc., there will have to be a new currency, however, no politicians dare to face this scenario at the moment! I think England is going to be an exemplary case. We will see.........

hans 12 September 2019

Peter, your comment is correct, and partly what I mean.
The farmers are the first to be used to provide large companies with assured profits. While the rest of the population has fared much better, the farmers, betrayed by their advocacy groups and declining businesses, have never progressed, only through more work and more risk.

But after the peasants, in our capitalist, liberal society, other groups have been caught in the same way, thanks to the EU conspiracy.
The EU is free movement of money, goods and people, with (almost) one currency. Everything only for the benefit of the multinationals.

However, the currency is far from one, why else are banks so eager to invest in South Europe? Higher interest rates, due to weaker economies, without the possibility of devaluation. If the euro closes, the conversion will be different per country, but different from when it was introduced.
The euro is only there for multinationals to sell their stuff for a fixed value, and in the event of headwinds in one country, the rest of the EU will stand as guarantor.

Socially, however, the EU is far from being one and should not become one. Income differences provide the greatest profit for multinationals, indeed cheap workers for production, rich population for sales. Import duties would stand in the way of this revenue model.

Now that the EU pushes CETA and MERCOSUR through for the member states, and talks with China are underway, internal social divisions will diminish, and multinationals will be able to derive their much greater profits from farther corners, with products with much lower standards. in terms of work, safety, environment, etc.

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