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Professor: 'Also delete a number of nature reserves'

18 October 2019 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 33 comments

In the discussion about the nitrogen problem, the eye should not only be focused on agriculture, but nature should also be looked at critically. Some of the nitrogen-sensitive Natura2000 areas are small. "You can hardly maintain that these are real nature reserves."

This is what Rudy Rabbinge, a member of the Remkes committee that advises the cabinet on nitrogen policy, says: in Algemeen Dagblad (AD)† According to the emeritus professor of sustainable development, nature itself should also be part of the discussion. Until now, this has been completely ignored, also by the Remkes committee itself. In addition to many small nature reserves, according to Rabbinge, many nature types have also been defined that must be protected. "The question is whether that can be done a little less."

Better balance
Rabbinge itself is in favor of a smaller number of nature reserves, so that there is a better balance between housing, economic activities and nature. The current large nature reserves, such as the Veluwe, could then possibly expand. In the AD he suggested an idea from his hand from the 90s, to develop an Agrarian Main Structure in addition to the Ecological Main Structure (in which the nature reserves were recorded).

In this proposal, all agricultural businesses are concentrated on the most fertile lands, so that less land is needed to produce food. The poor soil can then be converted into nature. In this way, less fertilizer and crop protection agents are needed, which increases sustainable production. According to Rabbinge, it is certainly possible that nature and agriculture in the Netherlands can coexist. "If strict choices are made in spatial development."

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Paul 18 October 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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There are a lot of Natura 2000 areas that are not sensitive to nitrogen. such as IJsselmeer and Waddenzee.
Color 19 October 2019
Looks like common sense is starting to work
Joost 19 October 2019
The first time Rabbinge says something sensible. Wisdom apparently comes with age in a professor.
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roy 19 October 2019
this is finally starting to look a little like it. How is it possible that the Remkes committee has not said a word about this?
Why have the nature reserves been excluded from this discussion? What kind of hidden leftist agenda is behind this?
When will the ratio return?
Henk 19 October 2019
They are left untouched because in the left eyes nature is sacred,
Ton Westgeest 19 October 2019

Without looking at the consequences, they have established 140 Natura 2000 areas. Just to get out of the Brussels pot...

The hearing clearly indicates that other countries are doing it differently than we are or not at all… They work with different numbers and have a very different idea of ​​natural parks.

For example, what is called a nature park here, they simply excavate in Germany and turn it into agricultural land. eg Manderheide and Engbertsdijksvenen.

I want to make it clear that we have to tap into a different vessel.....
Working with different figures, with different distances, with different rules or even with the millions they now want to buy the farmers away with, turning back the natural parks in Brussels.

Because one thing is not right either, that everyone talks about nature parks. If man has built it, it is only a PARK!!!!
Mike Forehand 19 October 2019
Bottom line: Too many animals have arrived in recent years. Dairy and meat are flying out of the country and the shit is left behind in the land that belongs to all of us. It is high time that this was put to a halt.
willem 19 October 2019
we should immediately stop all activities that export products, so .... good idea!
Ton Westgeest 19 October 2019
Does anyone know how much nitrogen we are introducing with fertilizer?

Round 19 October 2019
No food imports 1 large state farm No more allotments on the Randstad conurbation . If only someone grows a head of lettuce on his balcony, he will be arrested. 3 million more people stomp on it. This will be the future.
Well done tjeerdje and Esther Ouwehand.
Marie 19 October 2019
Nice and easy to abolish nature reserves. Others say, abolish the Dutch peasant; not really needed for food production. Plenty of space elsewhere in the world. smartass. With coated fertilizer granules you can save 10% anyway. Also another 10%, if you mow grass every 45 days. That's how we do it in "despicable" Poland.
Joop 19 October 2019
They are distracting us! There is still no nitrogen problem! More than 1990% has been reduced since 50. And in intensive livestock farming it is easy to clean the air, so why do pigs and chickens need to be cleaned up?

Our government is not concerned with the means, but with the goal they want to achieve, whether it is with CO2, nitrogen or because we are a threat to nature or insects.

The ultimate goal of this cabinet is to make room for other industries such as flying, and to make the average citizen financially dependent! The plan of the left is complete control of the citizens!
That's not a conspiracy theory, but the truth is becoming rutte has admitted it herself, rutte is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he is very left-wing!
Bob 19 October 2019
Groenlinks and D66 are the pcs dust problem,
Thanks to them everything is locked
Frenchie 19 October 2019
In a Democratic Country, the majority determines,
In the Netherlands it is the other way around!!
Ziener 19 October 2019
and the shit of those 800.000 imported calves that Van Drie imports from Eastern Europe or Belgium (seen on Zembla), does that also count?
Those 1100 farmers on contract, read strangulation work, when will they move?
bblogic 20 October 2019
Joop wrote:
They are distracting us! There is still no nitrogen problem! More than 1990% has been reduced since 50. And in intensive livestock farming it is easy to clean the air, so why do pigs and chickens need to be cleaned up?

Our government is not concerned with the means, but with the goal they want to achieve, whether it is with CO2, nitrogen or because we are a threat to nature or insects.

The ultimate goal of this cabinet is to make room for other industries such as flying, and to make the average citizen financially dependent! The plan of the left is complete control of the citizens!
That's not a conspiracy theory, but the truth is becoming rutte has admitted it herself, rutte is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he is very left-wing!
Totally agree. The government wants total control over everything and everyone. Now that no one believes in socialism anymore, they are trying to seize power with climate and environment as a new religion. The youngest generations have been brainwashed for years by education, and the rest of the population receives a daily dose of climate and environmental fear-mongering through the media. The nitrogen problem is therefore a wonderful stick for these people to beat. Substantive arguments are therefore irrelevant. The rulers only care about the goal. Getting the people ready for the new socialism, packaged as a green religion. Even a company inquisition is not lacking, as Remkes' plan shows.

Mike Forehand 20 October 2019
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Yesterday 18:25 PM
we should immediately stop all activities that export products, so .... good idea!

Sorry for approaching it negatively. I will name it to the core. There is too much animal shit in NL. Unfortunately, the polluter does not clean up.

Air scrubbers don't really help or really don't help. Live near the mega chicken stable and the former horse box that has been completely grassed over in 2 years due to nitrogen deposition or ammonia.

Proud of an organic farmer and of my brother-in-law who farms on a small scale, without fertilizer.
shoemakers 1 20 October 2019
it's nice that you are proud, I am proud of the great agriculture, how it has been able to maintain itself so far, despite all the opposition from the government that you can imagine.
Jos 20 October 2019
Indeed, there are a number of nature reserves that are rather small.
So if farmers stop because there are too many in the Netherlands, the natural space can expand.
The land is then restored, in the past it was all nature and only farmland was used to live on. Production for foreign countries is not necessary, so 80% of the farmland is returned to nature.
Jos 20 October 2019
Many farmers are doing well and are concerned with nature. I know many farmers in our area who help to improve the meadow bird population. Unfortunately, there are also farmers who use their arable land purely for the production of just one crop or who only grow grass and maize for their livestock. These farmers have to change, even though I understand that they have to earn money. We will therefore have to pay a fair price for well-grown/produced products. And for better (organic) agriculture we will really have to reduce livestock.
Peter P 20 October 2019
As a planner, I agree with Rabbinge. This dilemma is difficult to solve without a min. from VROM.
This problem needs to be looked at in a planned way at the national level. Many people live in a delta and a lot of economic space is needed there. Then you cannot take relics of nature as a basis for expansion plans.
In my work we now have to make nitrogen calculations for the construction of 1 nitrogen-neutral home. That's crazy.
There is no netting and there are no regional models etc. etc.
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roy 20 October 2019
@jos
In Dutch there is no nature man at all. All those new nature reserves are made up of mockery, which are expensive to maintain as well. Production for foreign countries is not necessary, just let people starve in Africa??
The trade surplus then also goes to the fucking, road-rich country of the Netherlands. It's the same as giving your wallet away.
Then eventually the left-wing hobbies will disappear such as mass immigration, benefits and bullying. That's the only positive thing about it.
The Netherlands has the most innovative agriculture in the world as well as highly productive land and good infrastructure such as the ports. An ideal model, therefore, for the food supply, the most elementary in our existence.
So the question is Rich or Poor and Food or Hunger?. Incomprehensible that the left chooses the latter options.
shoemakers 1 20 October 2019
I didn't know where left-wing politics comes from, but I'm getting more and more the feeling that it's just the same as standing with left hands!!!!
Ton Westgeest 21 October 2019
Shoemakers, left-wing politics is led by Duyvendak, who became known for setting fire to meat trucks and slaughterhouses in the past.....

He has a criminal record so that's why he needs a front man because he can't come to the fore himself. We are actually ruled by such activists, and for Duyvendak and his associates money at all, terrorists.

They are up to their elbows in government, it is not for nothing that Jesse Klaver has made an agreement with Rutte that he would agree everything with him if only half of the livestock would leave!!!

So it's much worse than standing with left hands....

soerd 21 October 2019
Rutte is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he talks right and does left
Ed 21 October 2019
Marie, you cannot compare 'retarded' Poland with the Netherlands. Here in Poland there is much more land and (still) relatively little livestock and a slightly different government.
from laar 21 October 2019
if we could use our nitrogen from our own manure, which we now have to dispose of with expensive, polluting trucks, on our own land instead of buying fertilizer, that would already yield enormous savings
Ton Westgeest 21 October 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3lYc_m2jW0&feature=push-fr&attr_tag=SDzfW_pRmiOM6WLa%3A6rr
Mike Forehand 21 October 2019
@Roy
You speak of innovative agriculture. Why don't I see innovative hoeing robots in the potato field? Unfortunately I still see a poison sprayer driving over the fields and that 20-25x per season. Why not some innovative conditions in the cowshed? Cows unfortunately only last 5 years.
We need to get rid of the idea that we have to feed the world... Bizarre!
Please a rich offer of fruit and vegetables and that is also climate proof
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Roy 21 October 2019
@Mike
innovative hoeing robot equipment does indeed exist, namely in the rows. With potatoes, most of the weed control is already done in an environmentally friendly way, ie with row cultivators or ridging, but you probably don't know that?
Crop protection products are indeed fully needed, also because all coatings and leg treatments were thrown out last year.
at least 3x extra spraying, so thanks to the environmental lobby.
Why ban coatings on non-flowering crops?
The package is becoming less and less wide, so that more spraying is required. It's like taking more and more drugs off the market. The risk of resistance increases.
Oh so the rest of the world can starve? Nice and social!
Various production chains are simply the most efficient here, which is why we are leading the way here with Agriculture.
But everything is being done to seriously weaken the competitive position. Now the processors are interested in vegetables from Egypt and meat from Ukraine. And there everything that is prohibited here is allowed and the transport will also emit a lot of CO2 and NOx!
Good for animal welfare too.
Piet 4 November 2019
Mike, I'm sorry but you're making a stupid comment. Every livestock farmer sells his manure on his own land or has it disposed of responsibly. Wisdom comes with age, hopefully with you too. Sincerely
Jp lapwing 18 November 2019
By conducting research the mind comes back. Bees are not exterminated by nicotine but the varroa mite is the cause. Great tits are dying because of flea tires and opp water is getting cleaner Nitrogen measurement is still in its infancy
Ton Westgeest.nl 19 November 2019
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