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'RVO helps animal activists with phosphate rights'

10 January 2020 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 28 comments

Farmers Defense Force (FDF) has lawyers find out whether the Netherlands Enterprise Agency (RVO) is allowed to make public how many phosphate rights each company has. Agractie Nederland has also sounded the alarm at RVO. "A gross invasion of privacy and a huge security risk."

This is also the view of FDF chairman Mark van den Oever: "RVO gives animal activists a helping hand in their efforts to make life miserable for farmers." He informs the followers of FDF that he will provide more information early next week whether the publication of the phosphate rights can be legally challenged. The agricultural entrepreneurs received a letter from RVO in the bus this week that the government service will indicate by the middle of this month how many phosphate rights each company has. According to RVO, this is mandatory in accordance with the Fertilizers Act.

AVG proof
According to the government service, the publication is in line with the rules set for privacy (GDPR). This means that probably not all company data can be viewed, although there is a lot of uncertainty about this. An earlier webpage on RVO.nl where practically all company and personal data were mentioned as 'collection purpose' for publication, appears to have suddenly been removed, according to Agractie. 

But with just the company name and a description of the area (for example, the name of the province), Google can quickly do its job, farmers comment on social media. Agractie reports that it is closely monitoring developments and taking action if necessary.

Parliamentary debate
The tone of the letter is also not up to many farmers and FDF, especially when it is clinically stated that it is not possible to object to the decision. "RVO does not determine that. FDF can make objections clear in several ways. FDF has one course: a straight one, and on a collision course if necessary," writes Van den Oever.

Several MPs have also expressed their dissatisfaction with the decision. SGP member Roelof Bisschop calls the measure 'bizarre'. CDA MP Jaco Geurts calls on agriculture minister Carola Schouten not to make the data public until the House of Representatives has debated it. 

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Dairy farmer extensive 11 January 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/melk/ artikel/10885267/rvo-helpt-dierenactivisten-handje-met-phosphaterechten]'RVO helps animal activists with phosphate rights'[/url]
Let that collision course come, because RVO has nothing to do with everything.
And again LTO does not hear anything. I wonder how long that club will continue to exist?
until here and no further 11 January 2020
the biggest animal activists are with the nwva, and now let them have access to everything
jef 11 January 2020
YES, WHERE IS LTO ACTUALLY?????????
peter 11 January 2020
I do not see phosphate rights as state aid, because there was previously the milk quota!

What purpose does it serve if it goes public???? (Who is better or worse for this!???)

Rent subsidy is a form of state aid, just like mortgage interest deduction.

Is the housing benefit per individual also made public????...and
Will the mortgage interest deduction also be made public? How much does an individual (name and address) deduct per year??? and how much tax benefit he enjoys per year!!!!!???
Question mark 11 January 2020
This scares you! What will the publication of phosphate rights mean for the entire agricultural sector?
Everyone's privacy seems to be important. Except from farmers?
gerard 11 January 2020
then let them know the wages of the cabinet and travel money, etc., including waiting money, who all have and how much.
and LTO where are those .come again after the time
Geertje 11 January 2020
Don't ask where LTO is that are sleeping, they are not there as an advocate.
economite 11 January 2020
how much state aid goes to other sectors and companies?
who controls that state aid provider?
because the primary sector from A to Z and from seed to carbonate,
is supervised, monitored and certified; is it possible this
transparent, mostly small producers, can be tracked and checked per day.
Because these have good and reliable i and r systems
this sector is accessible to the entire government at the push of a button.
Would this same government therefore want to show everyone the phosphate rights of this sector?
ANNIE 11 January 2020
VERY SPECIAL..
MILK QUOTA NO MORE NEEDED
PHOSPHATE RIGHTS, ASSIGNED BY GOVERNMENT, ARE STATE AID ..

STATE AID, READ PHOSPHATE RIGHTS, BECOME A COLLATERAL BANK BECAUSE THOSE WHO WANT TO MAKE MONEY SHOULD FIRST PERMISSION BE GIVEN BY THE MORTGAGE PROVIDER...

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE BANKS THINK IT IS THEIR COLLATERAL
Ton Westgeest 11 January 2020
What about privacy anyway? If the citizen requests his own file from the tax authorities, he will have it painted black.
At the RVO, they now want to make virtually all company and personal data public as a 'collective purpose' for publication… such as phosphate rights, Chamber of Commerce data, bank numbers and citizen service numbers of farmers. They must be published under the guise of state aid!!!!
Firstly: phosphate rights are not invented by the farmers, but by the politicians!
Secondly: will they also publish who, how much and for how long someone receives housing benefit, mortgage interest deduction, redundancy pay, childcare and other allowances???
Third: according to the government service, the publication is in line with the rules set for privacy (GDPR). This probably means that farmers have no privacy at all according to politics!!!
In France they have set up a team against agricultural terrorism, here in the Netherlands they make it very easy for agricultural terrorists to propagate their terrorism!!!
If it soon becomes trouble, where is that stupid government then.....????
Then with their selective memory they have no active memories again!!!
ps 11 January 2020
It is possible that RVO consciously tries to publish this, then everyone can start a procedure with a pro bono lawyer and then the state can change the zoning plan cheaper if the farmer is smoked out with indirect state aid!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
wim 11 January 2020
Too bad, but the farmers have bad advocates in the form of LTO. The smartass Calon is mainly there for the conference circuit and the money. Send that guy home and put a person there who can restore unity within farmland.
What should be the common denominator? Fewer rules. Check and invest in food safety, animal health and limiting environmental impact and stop with all that nonsense that drives farmers crazy.
boer 11 January 2020
Why scold LTO right away?
I don't understand how you guys think they aren't making an effort.

The LTO has made inquiries with LNV regarding the disclosure:
- Number of phosphate rights, company name and province are published on the RVO site (so no addresses or amounts);
- This concerns initially allocated phosphate rights (i.e. no rights that were subsequently purchased or sold);
- The obligation to do this is stated in Article 23, paragraph 8 of the Fertilizers Act, with reference to obligations in the European State Aid Guidelines;
- AVG test has been done, with due observance of the legal basis and not to be published more than is strictly necessary;
- In fact, this publication/publication should have taken place within 6 months of publication of the Act, but due to the large number of objections and appeals (which have now been largely completed after reassessment), RVO has postponed this until now.

LNV (and therefore not RVO) concludes that this does not deserve the beauty prize and was surprised itself, but also suppose that it is 'inevitable'. As LTO, we are far from happy with this situation and are therefore discussing this with LNV.

Geertje 11 January 2020
LTO are not an advocate, they function on subsidies and they have very few members, Calon is only there because it is a nice paid job.
??? !!! 11 January 2020
LTO is a political advocate to keep the farmer in a straitjacket. that much is clear after all the actions in recent times.

There is only one representative on behalf of agriculture, that is agricultural collective.

Janus of the tall Dirk. 11 January 2020
ah, everyone knows that LTO is on the brink of death.
and that's a good thing.
lto destroyed more than you cared for.
Willie 12 January 2020
To all.. I'm not a conspiracy theorist...but it does make you think that.... to the municipal elections ……. where the former party for the agricultural sector was (or was….) the largest during the distribution of the municipal seats… very easy.. (or deliberately) gave away portfolios to the left-wing opponents who simply halved or completely cut the agricultural sector want to have gone .. also look in your own municipality to see if you see parallels….. and don't be surprised about the possible outcome

It is just becoming an organized smear campaign to kill farming and agriculture and that small ..... infiltrated minority will also succeed if we don't react quickly to a different way
mariët 12 January 2020
Phosphate rights do not fall under subsidy because the farmers did not receive money from the government, but rights that can then be traded among themselves. So shifting money within the sector whereby a portion is skimmed off that goes to the government. So reverse state aid. Or am I wrong?
shoemakers 1 12 January 2020
That's how it is Mariet, it's only a subsidy for the quitters, for the stayers it's an extra cost item that can't be recouped anywhere
boer 12 January 2020
no lto no advocate. You won't make it by just yelling. Calon may not always be handy in his pronunciation, but you as the best mate ashore know better of course. the agricultural collective is very beautiful, but there too you see that the lto is leading the way because they have the expertise of their employees. and the rest of the collective nods yes please because we can't and don't have the money because my contribution is a tenner a year cheaper. no other club is so strongly layered.
until here and no further 12 January 2020
I dare to reassure you, with lto no advocacy, they have had the sole right for years, and where are we now, Jesse Klaver is right about one thing, the agricultural system is bankrupt because lto has let it get this far, don't go pretend that what happened in the last half year is because of lto, it is better to say that it happened despite the lto
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Also a farmer 12 January 2020
Frans Timmermans announced at the time that he would fight for fewer rules in the European Parliament. Not noticed at all. And meanwhile he is lobbying heavily against Dutch agriculture. That denies his own country. What will we all notice?
info 12 January 2020
Die Timmermans has closed our eyes in a very dirty way with his beautiful campaign, not good for himself.
Then your response in which lto is mentioned, I think it is not relevant, after all, it is about the RVO data of our companies that should not be allowed to be given by a government. If I want to show my data to someone else, I am responsible for myself and not RVO.
Linden 13 January 2020
European state aid guidelines, what a mess the phosphate rights are for cows and young stock that we already had. With a reduction of cows that have already been taken away if you were not land-bound and could buy back expensive. By the way, without land purchase obligation. Just another discriminatory measure, see the aforementioned state aids previous writers
grain grower 15 January 2020
LTO Nederland is a hopeless club that only helps the livestock farmers.
Jannie 15 January 2020
You are good at accusing others, always lto, government, right-wing Schouten, leftists, right-wing Rutte. Children do that too, when they grow up, you don't solve anything that way. We screwed up, so did I with my 158 treasures of cows. I have washed the ears of the animal feed manufacturer: why not come up with better animal feed sooner. The WUR too, but only now are they coming up with improvements. The suppliers of feed and machines have big profits, but over our skinny backs. Nice and cheap: "we are proud of farmers". exploiters
until here and no further 15 January 2020
The government is good at blaming agriculture for everything, lto has taken care of this in full, if your eyes are not open yet, good for you that you are living in a dream, but the comparison with 40-45 is still Topical
shoemakers 1 15 January 2020
Dear Jannie, what do you propose how we should proceed, you do not want to go in the direction that we as agriculture have to give up again, we have already done so much, this because we do not point to other people, and those in power do to us!!
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