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Minister bombarded with parliamentary questions for summary proceedings

31 July 2020 - Erik Colenbrander - 14 comments

Both the Forum for Democracy, the VVD and the CDA have asked parliamentary questions about the summary proceedings that were filed yesterday (July 30) in The Hague because there is no proper substantiation of the ministerial feed measure, according to the STAF and Nitrogen Claim foundations.

The political parties in the House of Representatives want to know from the minister whether it is true that the substantiation of the ministerial feed measure is 'in the head of 1 official', who is on vacation and has not documented it either. They also ask the minister whether she understands that it seems very strange to people that no substantiation is available for the ministerial feed measure and that dairy farmers therefore feel that they are not being taken seriously.  

When clarity?
CDA and VVD want to know what the consequences are for the motion submitted and adopted by them about the ministerial feed measure if the official who is on vacation is unable to reproduce the substantiation. They also want to know when this will become clear. In total, CDA and VVD put the unusually large number of 13 questions to the minister, who is also on vacation.

Forum questions
The Forum for Democracy focuses the questions on the reason why the ministerial feed measure has opted for 9 different farm types, depending on soil type and milk production per hectare, and why the exception rule draws a line at 155 grams of crude protein per kilo of dry matter. What is the justification for this?

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hans 31 July 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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From CDAVVD all just for the stage.
Their plan to decimate the farmers continues.
Not for nothing that they did not want to supply the min. v Agriculture.
And farmers remain loyal to these clubs.
Severe degree of Stokholm syndrome.
CU is too limited, inexperienced and gullible, Girl Schouten stepped into the wasp's nest with open eyes.
shoemakers 1 31 July 2020
But that girl is doing very well what she is told, if she really had something with the wasp's nest, she would run away from her lies faster
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Also a farmer 1 August 2020
@hans: Girl Schouten? Are we also talking about the boys Rutte, or De Jonge? Could it be a little less derogatory?
Apart from this, if Schouten was very fond of the farmers, she could still make other choices herself. I have the feeling that she wants to hijack the voters at GroenLinks with CU and this policy.
In the past, ministers have been sent away for a receipt. How much credit does she actually have?
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Floor de Jong Bergambacht 1 August 2020
As long as the national press does NOT pick up on this, LNV will just get away with it...

Gijs 1 August 2020
The Ministry was pushed down the throat of Mrs Schouten by VVD and CDA; these parties wanted to keep 'clean hands' (agree with Hans!) Cowardly, to now ask these types of non-future-oriented questions in front of the stage. Coward, now that the minister is on a well-deserved vacation.

Also cowardly of the animal feed industry, putting the farmers in their shoes, sponsoring the summary proceedings and staying out of the picture themselves.
There is a major ammonia problem that livestock farming needs to solve. The protein content in concentrates must be structurally reduced, ultimately to, for example, a maximum of 100 grams of crude protein per kilogram of dry matter. Not just a few months.
It's a shame that the animal feed industry is doing everything it can to promote concentrates at the expense of roughage and grass. It is equivalent to fattening (stuffing to gagging) geese in France to get 'foie gras'. Unethical!

The real problem is the low milk price on the 'world market' in order to compete with the world market. This is unsustainable for the raison d'être and sustainability of (dairy) farmers, in the Netherlands and the EU. There must therefore be a reasonably high minimum price (at least EUR 0,50) for milk and EU import duties for milk and milk powder from outside the EU. Naturally coupled with volume control and environmental protection. The right to exist must be the starting point, then those hundreds of forms of subsidies, which cost hundreds of billions in the EU, can be eliminated.

Thinking in rules and subsidies subjects us even more to rules and subsidies (concoctions) and a bureaucracy of 10.000ths of officials in the EU and 1000ths of lobbyists. that are involved and cost tens of billions of dollars. As farmers you should not argue about a fringe phenomenon, such as ammonia. It must send a clear message to politicians, especially at election time: milk prices must rise sharply in the EU and protect the EU market, provide a raison d'être and solve environmental problems. You can pay for the transition with the savings of the subsidy bureaucracy. Who could be against that? Go on, short-sighted politicians of the VVD and CDA get to work. And hands at home from Mrs. Schouten.
John Lapwing 1 August 2020
If the government and eu27 do everything they can to dissolve your company, you will of course go against it for 100% with all the tools that are available in the horse carriage minster schouten back to the kitchen sink in rotterdam and christian union 1 seat in the elections in mrt 2021. hopefully there will be a minister who knows something about animal husbandry
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Fortissimo 1 August 2020
CU is just far left on agriculture. Schouten acts according to its own principles.
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quite coarse 1 August 2020
Gijs, there is no ammonia problem, there is a Natura 2000 problem and agriculture is the victim because there are some plants that I do not have an idea of ​​how or what they are that do not like nitrogen and it is then immediately argued that it's so bad with nature, it's bullshit.
All around me it looks beautifully green and healthy, we are all talked into it and we are starting to believe it by now.
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jan cees bird watcher 2 August 2020
Gijs
you talk nonsense
livestock farming has achieved an approximately 64% reduction in ammonia emissions since 1990 and the share of nitrogen deposition on nature is far below 30%
the rest comes from increased traffic and industry, shipping, aviation and abroad.
the reason why rivm still has such a large livestock sector in its models is because its figures are lagging behind. the most recent numbers are from 2016/2017.
In addition, in livestock farming, every chicken, calf, piglet and cow is in the picture, so the emissions registered with the industry are estimated to be 40% unregistered

then there is the discussion about the major inaccuracies of the calculation models themselves

all in all, livestock farming is being sacrificed by Schouten to make room for growth in other sports such as traffic Zandvoort GP and aviation

that you hate livestock farmers and livestock farming go ahead

but don't come up with empty arguments
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Fortissimo 2 August 2020
CU is just far left on agriculture. Schouten acts according to its own principles.
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tjerk 2 August 2020
Can't Gijs's account be removed, clearly has nothing to do with farmers and also no knowledge of farmers' affairs
Charlie 2 August 2020
Schouten is idiosyncratic, like that entire party of hers. The whole army of civil servants are green ayatollahs.
Gijs 2 August 2020
# jan cees birdwatcher. Come up with good figures and relevant arguments. Your previous calculations and accusations made no sense either. This does not serve the farmers; neither in the short term nor in the longer term.
Quite a few comments consist only of swearing; the farmers' right to exist is not served here. I even wonder whether they, including Vogelaar, have been in the parlor for the last 24 hours and whether they still understand the art of milking by hand.
hans 2 August 2020
Gijs,

"# jan cees birdaar. Come up with good figures and relevant arguments. Your previous calculations and accusations made no sense either."

Can you name where we can find relevant, reliable, concrete figures regarding Nitrogen emissions and precipitation from various economic activities?
(And don't come up with those "estimates and calculations with up to 100% margin" from the WUR.)

It's so easy to piss someone off without arguments like you do.
You can no longer respond.

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