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Nitrogen: the master heist of the government

19 October 2019 - Boerenbusiness - 75 comments

First of all, we apologize for the demonstrations in front of the provincial government in Groningen that got out of hand. This shouldn't have happened, but I can understand how this came about. The board of the province of Groningen largely consists of supporters of Jesse Klaver and Tjeerd de Groot. So people who would rather get rid of the farmers than be rich.

But what's going on now? Why do the farmers also go to the provincial authorities and the RIVM? I explain it with the help of examples. In the Netherlands, farmers had a milk quota for more than 30 years. When a farmer wanted to expand, he had to buy his milk quota from a quitting farmer. 

There were even brokers who bought up the entire milk quota from a quitting farmer and then sold it back in small increments to companies that wanted to expand. After all, the price was quite high and so the companies that wanted to grow bought something extra every year. The EU abolished the milk quota in the EU in 2015 and therefore also in the Netherlands.

Bring on more milk
The dairies shouted to the farmers: 'bring more milk, we will process it'. At the time, the one who shouted the loudest for more milk was our Tjeerd de Groot, who then worked for the Dutch Dairy Organization. The banks also said: invest. The young farmers who wanted to grow have made good use of this.

Suppose we are talking about farmer Piet. In 2015 he had about 100 dairy cows. To expand, he has applied for a permit for 200 cows. He obtained that permit from the province at the time. Then he started building a stable. Usually smaller than the requested permit, because he had applied for the permit for future growth. 

Suppose he has built a barn for 180 cows. At the beginning of 2015, the stable was ready. Then cows had to be bought to fill the barn. Because the cows were scarce and due to animal diseases, most farmers decided to grow through their own breeding. In mid-2015 Piet had 115 cows. A year later 130 cows.

Extra discount by the government
In 2017, the government saw that the phosphate ceiling, which the EU has imposed on us, was being exceeded. So the number of cows had to be reduced. The government has introduced the phosphate quota as a solution. It was examined how many cows farmer Piet had on 2 July 2015. This was 115 cows. So farmer Piet had to go back to 115 cows. And there was an extra discount of 8% by the government on the number of cows.

For farmer Piet this means 115 cows minus 8% = 105 cows. So at the end of 2017, farmer Piet was again at 105 cows. Farmer Piet still wants to grow to 200 cows. So to expand, farmer Piet is now trying to buy phosphate rights. These rights cost approximately EUR 11.500 per cow. So in 2018 and early 2019 Piet saved so much that he bought phosphate rights for 5 cows and is now at 110 cows.

We take away the permit
Now comes the nitrogen problem. The government has no solution. Nitrogen rights can only be obtained from farmers in the short term. Now The Hague says, farmer Piet, you have a permit for 200 cows. We will take this permit from you, because on October 4 you only have room for 180 cows in your barn. We use these nitrogen rights to give to construction and other projects, so that something can still go ahead in the Netherlands.

However, the provinces realize that this solution does not yield enough nitrogen rights to allow the projects that are in the pipeline to go ahead. So they now say: 'no farmer Piet, you only have 8 cows on October 110th. We assume these 110 cows, and we take the rest of your rights. We can use all these rights to continue our projects.'

Farmer Piet has bought the rights, entered into expensive obligations with the bank and now all growth opportunities are taken from him to fill his stable. After all, his financial obligations to the bank were based on 180 cows. How should he continue with his repayments? A company that can no longer grow can no longer invest in future developments and is doomed.

Must net internally
The government wants to steal the rights that have not yet been realized from the farmers. Because stealing is not allowed, the government changes the law in such a way that it is suddenly no longer stealing. The provinces want to steal even more from the farmers. How clever is the theft? The minister says: 'Farmer Piet, you can expand to those 180 cows. No problem. But you have to net internally.'

This means: if you expand from 110 cows to 180 cows, you may have a maximum of the same nitrogen emissions as you now have with 110 cows. Farmer Piet already has a new stable, so this is an impossible task. After all, agriculture has had an average of 1990% less nitrogen emissions since 60. 

And when we confront the province with this, the province says: “perhaps we should think about whether this is correct” And so was stated in the parliamentary debate on 17 October. Until 1 December, Schouten will check with the provinces whether this is not too difficult and whether we should go back to 180 for internal netting. But 110 remains the starting point for external netting.

Financial obligations
This means: In an old barn, the nitrogen reduction may have decreased by only 1990% compared to 4. But Boer Piet's new barn has already achieved a nitrogen reduction of perhaps 1990% compared to 80. And that while he has received a permit for 200 cows from the government. Farmer Piet cannot meet his financial obligations and goes bankrupt. While he was just the farmer, who didn't want to stop.

It is very incomprehensible that these theft practices were caused by alarming figures from RIVM about nitrogen emissions. The nitrogen absorbed by the crops is not counted by RIVM. The RIVM just does not want to make public how they arrive at the figures. In any case, much of the figures are based on assumptions. So what are we talking about?

All that fiddling with RIVM figures seems like scaremongering on the part of the population and raises many question marks in my mind. I am also increasingly wondering how the nature authorities influence the RIVM. The less RIVM talks about nature, the more money and land the nature authorities receive from The Hague. After all, because of the wishes of Natuurmonumenten and Staatsbosbeheer, we have so many Natura2000 areas in the Netherlands. Much more than the EU demanded.

Plant species on the list
Politicians have been sleeping and just allowed this. Ultimately, the natural authorities are the cause of our nitrogen problem. They even included plant species on the list that did not even occur in the Netherlands, but of which they dreamed. This does not work, no logically. Nitrogen pollution consists of 2/3 part NOx (industry, aviation and traffic) and 1/3 part NH3 . 

Of this NH3, scientists say, 60% of emissions are caused by agriculture. Agriculture also includes wild animals, domestic animals (3 million), horses and animals belonging to nature conservation authorities. Furthermore, NOx is much heavier than NH3 and the NH3 will therefore immediately volatilize high in the atmosphere.

The NH3 is therefore very difficult to measure. Something that has not been researched. Why not measure first and then know. Then conclude. Due to all these assumptions of the RIVM, the entire economy is now locked. And why? If you build and then put down a house that emits much less, isn't this a win-situation? 

Nature is going to deteriorate more
This government policy leads to the downfall of the whole of the Netherlands. Failure to repent will lead to mass layoffs. Even nature will deteriorate even more. There is only one simple explanation for the pollution of the earth. The cycle pointer of man himself. We must try to get this circular indicator to come to an end and not hide behind the farmer and then say: 'the farmer did it, because he did nothing'. 

In fact, no sector has performed as well as the farmer. No, only we ourselves are the culprit. However, no political party talks about this. Politicians only mop with the tap open. And instead of turning off the tap, the tap is opened further and further.

Jaap Major
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75 comments
Ton Westgeest 20 October 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/column/10884388/stikstof-de-meesterroof-van-de-overheid]Stikstof: the master robbery of the government[/url]
Nice summary Jack!
Johan 20 October 2019
Nicely displayed. If it can be put in the newspaper, then the citizen can also read it.
Farmer Twente 20 October 2019
You have to project this message on the courtyard then attract attention.
bertus 20 October 2019
well said yap! forward this to the regional newspapers
peter 20 October 2019
@Jaap, Send this article to agriactie/fdf and ask if they want to put this in every newspaper with a little of the donation money?
frits 20 October 2019
In addition, houses are of little use if you deprive all employment opportunities in the countryside. villages will empty, SMEs will then go bankrupt and this domino effect will continue much further. having a good time there in The Hague...
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Uncle Henk 20 October 2019
Well said!
??? !!! 20 October 2019
what about the clearance of areas below approx. NAP 0 at the end of this century in the EU/nature/politics: people know for sure that the sea level will rise (hugely)?

how can that be reconciled with the short term (as long as 'we' live) 'nature' stamps?

if the big things are going to be thought of, do it right. Are suburban residents (Dutch) the latest refugee flow???
Denny 20 October 2019
Very interesting to read and to understand well why the farmers are angry. Thanks for the clear explanation.
willy 20 October 2019
Finally well and especially clearly worded, you can do something with this on a birthday to explain it well and clearly
Keep it up because the actions have loosened something with us but especially with the citizen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vienna 20 October 2019
Something itched, because there is something that is not right.
Because of this message I got it right, the farmers always have to pay for it.
The government is running it to their advantage.
Farmer strength and don't let it get you down.
antoinette 20 October 2019
Jaap,
Thanks for this text.
And above all, thank you for all the work you do for us.
This piece must be read to national newspapers and to Jinek or Pauw.
doefe 20 October 2019
Good story and clear explanation.
M. Zandvliet 20 October 2019
Nice and good story, only I understood that NH3 precipitates faster and NOx because that comes from combustion engines and is therefore also warmer is moved much further through the air and is most likely the nitrogen compound that precipitates in natural areas, among other things.
Market 20 October 2019
antoinette wrote:
Jaap,
Thanks for this text.
And above all, thank you for all the work you do for us.
This piece must be read to national newspapers and to Jinek or Pauw.
A lot of media is fake news Peacock, news hour etc. So they won't tell this story!
peter 20 October 2019
Much media is fake news:

Npo paid by politics
Nos paid by politics
Peacock paid by politics
news hour paid by politics


So they won't tell this story! , because

Who pays decides!

Look at Jenssen.nl and ask critical questions that he might tell on his media channel
WHJ Reiss 20 October 2019
The Boers and others have voted for this Regentenspui for years and time and again. They came with a promise or a lie and the Boers were happy again. And so it will be next time. The Regent scum is only there for himself and his friends. And there is simply no Volk or a Farmer in between. But the people as well as the Boers do not understand these simple words! So in the long(er) term, many will die for which they have in fact chosen over and over again!
J van Wageningen 20 October 2019
Good piece! I wholeheartedly support the farmers! What I do find a bit uncomfortable is that farmers are portrayed as a bit naive. Is it not logical that with more livestock the phosphate emissions increase? And that when the milk quota was abolished, the farmers could have expected that the phosphates could throw a spanner in the works when they expanded?
I'm asking this question out of interest, I don't know how it works exactly and I would like to know how it could have gone like this: expanding the livestock and then facing a phosphate problem, which you might have seen coming...
Also: good luck with the promotions! I wholeheartedly support you! Time for a nationwide strike with farmers, teachers, healthcare staff, police and all other professional groups that are shorthanded by politics!!
Hans Meijer 20 October 2019
Beautiful and clear story! I'm a bit shocked by some numbers; €11.500 phosphate rights for one cow? Typo maybe!
Although I don't belong to the peasantry, but live in Amsterdam, I follow the whole nitrogen issue closely.
We don't have to rely on politics in recent years, certainly not at European level. I stood and fully support your actions. More groups will follow; Healthcare, Education, Police, contractors, etc. Maybe then they will come to their senses. But what should a complete non-valeur like Schouten do with this? Completely incompetent and hypocritical. And Jesse Klaver as "the savior of the planet" has now given birth to 3 children, perhaps already 4 these days? Does he know what ecological footprints he is leaving behind? And his pallet burner? How hypocritical?
This cabinet must go home soon, and it will! Good luck with the fight! The Netherlands is behind you for 90%.
Marijke 20 October 2019
Good piece. Spread via social media including Facebook
Thick 20 October 2019
There is only one who can analyze and explain it so clearly. Nice piece Jaap!
Dr.XMUtzz 20 October 2019
One of the nails hit so well on the head. But that is also the problem. It's only one. And if you have found a reasonable solution in consultation with the government, new serious environmental problems are ready for you. That turn your previous investment into a debt instead of helping your business grow. To all farmers.. never sell that trade of yours! Only if you really have to let yourself be bought out for a lot of money....however...to just start a farm somewhere else. Could be your neighbor's yard. Who then buys your yard. Really...you and all of us are just being fooled like children. Nitrogen is a growth factor. More foliage instead of sparse. Why no smear campaign against shell, exxon, BP, etc. Schiphol is responsible for 0,1% of all nitrogen emissions in the Netherlands?? If it is not growing nitrogen that Schiphol emits, then what is it? An entire ocean full of plastic..... That's the farmers' fault.. because thanks to their grown foods, all that plastic is now in the Pacific Ocean. Whose deed.
Weirjack 20 October 2019
It's been picked up. It's on GeenStijl.
TM. 20 October 2019
Nice clear explanation of what the problem is and will become. You should get this in an even smaller infogram then you reach even more people. People get lazy so you have to get to them in less than half an A4. There is bound to be a graphic designer with a farmer's heart. For example, the "counterparty" also uses subsidized teaching materials to reach the people. Keep it up!
Jan 20 October 2019
Without farmers I would not be sick. I got Q fever. The goat farmers have received about 70 million and the remaining patients? nada. Nearly 100 deaths, 500 patients with Gronic Q fever and 1.000 patients with Q fever fatigue syndrome. I'm up and I've lost everything. Also thanks to the CDA, farmers ministers Verburg and Klink. Oh yes, take a look at the site of the Judiciary and search for: animal abuse, manure fraud, pesticides, calf fraud, suspicion of murder by concealing a fever contamination risk at a company. And so on, and so on.
Eugene 20 October 2019
If the peasants give in to the robbery. Then the rest of the Netherlands will certainly not dare to do anything against all that idiotic mismanagement of that robbery. The average Dutch person does not dare anything and takes a lot. All this mismanagement affects every Dutch person. So it's not just about the farmers in the Netherlands.
Harri 20 October 2019
We can all continue to count....
But try to see the big picture.

In any case, our nitrogen emissions have to come down sharply. In NL this is 4 times higher than neighboring European countries.

This is an issue that we must all resolve together, for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

Zwarte Piet to each other (the farmers, politics etc) and polarizing doesn't help

The solution is in any case to realize a fair price for the products, farmers do not get that and are forced to expand: Smaller companies and a closed cycle.

Other sectors will also have to make significant sacrifices. This will unfortunately lead to many layoffs. We will have to reinvent ourselves. This requires a strong government that compensates where necessary and possible.

A government that is now going to solve the problems that we have created now and previous generations. We can no longer put the mess and the bill on our children and grandchildren.


south farmer 20 October 2019
harry wrote:
We can all continue to count....
But try to see the big picture.

In any case, our nitrogen emissions have to come down sharply. In NL this is 4 times higher than neighboring European countries.

This is an issue that we must all resolve together, for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

Zwarte Piet to each other (the farmers, politics etc) and polarizing doesn't help

The solution is in any case to realize a fair price for the products, farmers do not get that and are forced to expand: Smaller companies and a closed cycle.

Other sectors will also have to make significant sacrifices. This will unfortunately lead to many layoffs. We will have to reinvent ourselves. This requires a strong government that compensates where necessary and possible.

A government that is now going to solve the problems that we have created now and previous generations. We can no longer put the mess and the bill on our children and grandchildren.


Do you never wonder whether your children and grandchildren will still have something to eat? Who is going to take care of that with this extermination policy of peasant families? I would be more concerned about that than about a problem with nitrogen, which will ultimately mean no problem at all for your descendants.
John van Holten 20 October 2019
A clear piece that exposes the appalling ignorance and lack of vision / insight of our government.
In principle, the idea that we are trying to minimize our emissions is not strange at all. But then it must be properly substantiated and with the correct and affordable real measures. However, the faltering of the past 30-40 years has mainly caused a lot of misery for the farmers.
A group of very wise people should be set up that will plot a route for ''the problem''. And then without any political interference/intertwinement or interference from nature organizations. The latter seem to have made twisting and lying a target as well.

Arnaud 20 October 2019
harry wrote:
We can all continue to count....
But try to see the big picture.

In any case, our nitrogen emissions have to come down sharply. In NL this is 4 times higher than neighboring European countries.

This is an issue that we must all resolve together, for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

Zwarte Piet to each other (the farmers, politics etc) and polarizing doesn't help

The solution is in any case to realize a fair price for the products, farmers do not get that and are forced to expand: Smaller companies and a closed cycle.

Other sectors will also have to make significant sacrifices. This will unfortunately lead to many layoffs. We will have to reinvent ourselves. This requires a strong government that compensates where necessary and possible.

A government that is now going to solve the problems that we have created now and previous generations. We can no longer put the mess and the bill on our children and grandchildren.


There is no nitrogen problem. it is turned into a problem by policy makers within Natuurmonumenten and the likes… who also forge plans with their old study friends within the national government.
I myself have worked for years for natural monuments, and they are very busy writing (area) plans and wasting (tax money) money. an example is that they do not want the natural succession to take its course, but they spend tons of area every 10 years to cut down alder swamp forest. with the knowledge that 10 years later there is again alder swamp forest. purely in the hope that there will be rare plants that they can check off their bucket list.
Peterdh 20 October 2019
Why is this article only here? This should be full page in all newspapers!
Andre 20 October 2019
What I often hear is the clincher "no political party is doing anything about it".
The PVV, and now also FvD, do indeed use common sense.
Just as the farmers are put away, the PVV is put away real smoke; therefore unwelcomely put in a bad light.
And of course the established EUROPHIL elite are the culprits.
Just believe me; even if this cabinet makes promises; they continue to push their "opinion" and their EU agenda.
With my high IQ I can't believe that there are still people who "abhor" PVV or see it as a "one issue party" and refuse to make the right choice for our future.
Ton Westgeest 20 October 2019
Harri I heard this evening from someone from the RIVM, who was asked "is the nitrogen problem solved when half of the farmers are gone?"
He replied: Even when ALL the farmers were gone, there was still a nitrogen problem!

Then you have to, if you want to WANT to solve the problem, scratch your head and start looking for what the real problem is!!!
So I think they don't want to solve it, and that Duyvendak and his associates just want to make a big mess of it...

Otherwise there is only one option half the "nature areas" gone. And there are quite a few "nature areas" that consist of water, even those that we have submerged, they do not absorb CO2 or nitrogen.

That counts double on negative!
Luuk 21 October 2019
Thanks for the enlightening message. I never knew about all that quotas and rights trading, what a filthy communist system! Great shame, it makes me angry that this is being done to the farmers.

You have my support!
TheTruth76 21 October 2019
Rutte and his globalist Bilderberg friends will not stop until the Netherlands is robbed of technology and pensions! EU is socialism!
Evelien van Beek 21 October 2019
It is correct what Mr. / Mrs. Truth writes, the Bilderberg, Beauforts, Utrecht landscape, nature monuments, etc., are busy buying all the land through subsidy money and then giving it out on long lease to the farmers who then have to ask permission for everything to their lord of the manor..... The estates owned by the rich families and the mob, so the rest, in small well-arranged houses and otherwise on leasehold. Controllable. The police and the municipalities listen to the unelected mayor and the one who realizes it is fired or lives and works in fear. Pim Fortuyn got it.
PVV 21 October 2019
It is a pity that Wilders does not dare to throw Dion Graus out.
peer 21 October 2019
one has to start thinking how this century will end we can no longer sell gas we also slaughter the chicken (agriculture) with the golden eggs
what's left. the rest of the economy can be moved, you can also do that in another country, e.g. make steel or paint banks or expensive yachts
we want to go on vacation twice, preferably by plane
Neuro Pean 21 October 2019
An illuminating clear view of Jaap on that nitrogen and phosphate chatter from The Hague. Our world is spinning.

Too many people live on this globe, who wish too much, Amen!
Danny 21 October 2019
Finally I understand, good summary! Put it on FB, then everyone will understand where the sting is.
Thanks!
Nanko 21 October 2019
It is not at all about the climate in the action groups:

https://www.conservativesociety.org/alerts/extreme-left-climate-change-groups-co-founder-reveals-true-purpose-this-is-not-satire/?utm_source=AT&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AT-102019-pm
Marco van Kampen 21 October 2019
Great piece and completely understandable frustration, until you start talking about the big bad RIVM conspiracy. The models and calculation methods are online, and the studies regarding the validation of the models are also online. If you doubt the method, then you have to come up with substantive arguments regarding the models. Everything now being said about it by the farmers' representatives shows a total misunderstanding of how these types of models work and what they can and cannot be used for (and what they are and are not actually used for).

This distracts from the discussion and makes the farmers' cause a lot less strong. I and many with me are losing sympathy with the conspiracy thinking and the display of lack of knowledge and ignorance of science.

Ton Westgeest 21 October 2019
Marko it has nothing to do with knowledge and ignorance of science.

Science itself admits that they can be up to 100% wrong with this model.

They admit that there are measuring points above an open sewer and next to stables.

In addition, they work with very different figures than abroad.

To measure is to know and you can go in all directions with assumptions.
It has nothing to do with conspiracies. We don't feel like it and don't have the time for that!
John van Wijk 21 October 2019
The truth is harsh
Qv Nuland 21 October 2019
What's going to happen to the game pile in the Eastfarers' puddles?
Evelien van Beek 21 October 2019
The Oostvaardersplassen will probably become an airport in the future. Lelystad is expanding enormously, the hotel has been bought by a rich gentleman and the parking spaces that have been constructed are so large that they miss their target, unless..... the 373 is going to land there in the future.
The newly built islands above the Oostvaardersplassen have a thick sewer pipe to it and you don't do that if it's just for the yachts. When you fly over it you get it.
The same story with the fountain herb, marinas are empty, no longer have a right to exist and the idea behind it is to reclaim the marker water.
Idea to carry out your own measurements by, for example, an English company (certainly not a Dutch company) and to offer them and share everything with the media. Media is so incredibly important.
Henk Kooistra 21 October 2019
Totally agree with Jack.
What I would like to add is the following:
All these problems, of which global warming is the most threatening, are ultimately caused by the fact that we have been adding a fossil component to natural cycles for a long time. You could say that forests, agriculture or whatever cultural interpretation you give to land, form a global cycle as a whole. We disrupt this to a great extent through our consumption behaviour. Farmers are part of this disruption if they use fossil fuels for traction or, for example, fertilizer. But agriculture itself, including nitrogen emissions, is simply a cycle.
FP VAN DER AVOORT 21 October 2019
THE FARMERS | THE BASIS OF OUR SOCIETY , I THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD , IT IS A SHAME HOW THESE PEOPLE ARE TREATED AND WHO IS BRUSSELS ? WILL THAT BE OUR NEW BOSS? THOSE BRITISH ARE NOT SO CRAZY YET. WHO IS THIS YOUNG LADY? HER NAME IS SCHOUTEN \ ANYONE CAN BECOME A MINISTER , THAT IS WITH THE WHOLE OF THE HAGUE , BUT, FARMERS COME ON | DON'T MISS YOU , GREAT RESPECT FOR YOU .
hans different 21 October 2019
if the contractors are all bankrupt because they cannot meet the p-fas (another idiotic rule that the incompetent government has devised), the building is also about having no nitrogen space anymore.
but the real problem in nl is that there are too many people, so deport everything left and green oriented and most of the problems are solved.
Frank 21 October 2019
Ignorance reigns supreme
Cor 21 October 2019
Wonderful article I support this, and it is the reality of this time, we are always being fooled in one way or another.
We won't come out the way we live and produce now either, the system behind it is only after you and my money, and they don't care about the rest, we'll go on like this, because we're low we have become tied with hands and feet to our money providers and the relentless regulations
We live in a production society, with a fast pace and ever bigger machines we extract the raw materials from the earth that have been formed over eons of time, we rob the earth.
How long can we keep that up.
Every inhabitant of this country is responsible for the problem we now face, it is not just the farmers, but the total expansion drift, which has arisen towards the demand for luxuries and livelihoods, and the fulfillment of our commitments. .
We can't go back and will continue on this road, but I'm afraid that at some point we will be whistled back by nature, and only then will we realize that we have to do it differently, and go to the production society transform it into a need society.
I wish everyone a lot of wisdom to get out of this.
W Bemelmans 21 October 2019
That's right, but we had to put them in The Hague with pitch and feathers
chase away.
P Heart 21 October 2019
The farmer's lobby was of course also asleep or did not know what the results of Aerius were and/or did not have scientific research done; Tractor driving is fun but you have to keep thinking. Only when Tjeerd de Groot says that the livestock should be halved do the farmers wake up...
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farmer 21 October 2019
It is just a pity that no one is talking about a low-emission floor of more than 1000 euros per cow and that should come if nitrogen is such a problem I do not believe that livestock should be halved, but everyone should invest in a low-emission floor with vent pipe to the outside for dangerous gases
And in the story above, another floor of around two tons
sjelles 21 October 2019
But if the farmers had been awake for the past say 15 years, LTO and other colleagues would have been critical. On the sustainability of the NL and EU politics the gigajoule import and mega export and preservation of many minerals and shit. Then this circus would not have been necessary and we would have taken a wiser turn together, all together. There is still much to do. Farmers, I wish you all strength and especially vision with healthy entrepreneurship.
arlo 21 October 2019
every livestock farmer who stops has to pay the tax of €60.000 to €80.000, so the more livestock farmers stop, the more the government can waste on new nature and 10.000 visitors a day at Schiphol by plane + then there is certainly no nitrogen problem + 2019 to 2020 there will be no fireworks all nitrogen, right?
Gustavus Lenders 21 October 2019
The box of tricks of the RIVM (Look and shudder) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t40rnXRe4LA
Sam 21 October 2019
Thank you Jaap for your clear article. It gives a lot of insight.
JOYze highland 22 October 2019
Thanks for your clear explanation.
In my view, the plan of action would be:
precisely with Jesse Klever and the Party for the Animals to draw up a working fair policy.
Anja 22 October 2019
Good morning. Thanks for the clear and clear explanation. Warm regards from a non-farmer's wife.
nasjo 23 October 2019
phosphate
nasjo 23 October 2019
Thank you Jaap! When calculating the phosphate ceiling, calculation data from 2002 was used, among other things, this was the year after the foot and mouth crisis. Very consciously, after all, in that year there were 265.000 fewer animals than the year before due to the slaughter of innocent animals. In this way, the government continues to count on itself. As a sector, this has also been taken away from us, sickeningly.
Jan 23 October 2019
https://universonline.nl/2019/10/21/wat-intensieve-landbouw-ons-echt-kost
until here and no further 23 October 2019
Intensive farming costs us nothing, it only yields, I am more curious about what organic farming really costs us, it will destroy us all
Ansloonstra@live.nl 24 October 2019
scream even louder
show 25 October 2019
well said JAAP.

why is nobody talking about the nitrogen from the coal-fired power stations that have been closed with the climate plan.
from this latent space, eg essent geertruidenberg, the whole of Brabant can build houses.
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Jet 26 October 2019
What a bright piece! Politics has become a game involving interests. And in the media there is great one-sidedness of reporting. Just last night I saw something at the NPO about nature management in the Veluwe. Large areas of forest have been cut down so that there is a connection with another more sandy area, for the insects. Well. Will be important, but cutting trees .... That is not good and you will get more vulnerable nature where farmers have to disappear.
By following twitter I come across this article and you get a much broader picture. Thank you!
My 27 October 2019
Good story, why can't I find that in the MSM??

Oh-Yes, what about the studies of the RIVM/WUR about the so-called manure injection???

Just kidding, that research didn't exist.....
Willie 14 November 2019
Last masterstrokes Rutte:

Brilliant trick to problem implementation:

You are not the problem, but the solution.

Goal Rutte:
1. Injecting a desired problem subjugation Europe.
2. Getting the culprit to accept this: You are the solution
(of what problem...!)

This psychological trick is truly the height of arrogance.
Next trick to re-election:

Pitting Citizens Against Farmers:

3. Citizens Must Drive Slower To Compensate Farmers:
creating resistance to enslave farmers to his regret...

Surely this crucifixion should be clear, even from his own mouth!, or are farmers really just as stupid as Rutte thinks..?
Pete 14 November 2019
Evidence to Total Submission Europe:

If the water level rises, where are the plans if we are geographical refugees and why do we help cultural refugees but not make plans if our own house were on fire?

Regardless of the facts, the solutions are from the mouth of the lobbyists of infinite growth that we only know in nature in the form of cancer. That is why only preschoolers can see that our social history emperors are not wearing any clothes!
Pim Fortuyn, Theo van Gogh, Willie Dille 14 November 2019
Europe is misusing the facts into total submission.
Unelected EU leaders, without referendums everything will be taken from us.

Our lobbycracy discovers the lucrative products of our problems.

https://lobbywatch.nl/

Real problems like coming artificial intelligence
(will spread exponentially and is self-learning) requires a vision of the future, which is not in the nature of parasitic social historians who prefer to pour the inhabitant in a burning house with a little less petrol as the solution of a fictional or not: You you are not the problem but part of the solution .

The grin really stares us in the face and we see nothing, with emotion as an instrument to satisfy their autistic memorist skills from earthquake report Groningen to sound report Lelystad, we are spied on, lied to and cheated and a farmer's protest should no longer be like a cozy decadent tea party : cheers holland.
Willie Dill 15 November 2019
The departure of the VVD is not a problem,
only part of the solution.
Bert Wasink 17 November 2019
Jaap I don't know you but all due respect for what you explain in this article. What really surprises me is that THE RIVM does NOT give any OPENNESS of affairs and apparently gets away with it. I don't know but a lawsuit has already been filed to force them to OPEN UP. In my opinion, it cannot be the case that politicians take decisions that frustrate the entire country without providing insight into the calculations, etc. Unless the judge is also politically motivated, I cannot imagine that a judge with such an impact would form the basis for does not want to reveal the RIVM figures. So off to court.
Bram 18 November 2019
Too bad no one reads this message and if he or she reads it will not understand??
Nitrogen in livestock farming is not necessary at all, 100% is possible and has already been solved, with an invention 15 years ago! all kinds of cattle shit can be used ? fertilizer is made from shit, pure water and pure ammonia gas and residual product raw materials for medicines. Please contact us .
Skirt 18 November 2019
I really wonder who still knows which party you still want to vote for, what a mess.
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