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Tjeerd de Groot is right: livestock is halved

25 April 2020 - Geesje Rotgers - 50 comments

The essence of the nitrogen letter, which the cabinet published on April 24, is easily missed. The cabinet expresses its aim in 'a mere' 255 mol per ha per year of nitrogen reduction, a target value that hardly anyone says anything. A 'huge' subsidy amount of €5 billion is linked to this, making the package appear generous. Appearances are deceptive: this target value means halving agriculture.

The nitrogen letter makes clear where the government wants to go: 'to bring the nitrogen deposition below the critical deposition value on at least 2030% of the hectares with nitrogen-sensitive nature in Natura 50 areas by 2000.' The significance of that pursuit is not picked up by the media, nor by farmers' organisations.

This spring, Mesdag Zuivelfonds calculated what the nitrogen gain for vulnerable nature would mean if agriculture was halved: this is around 250 mol/ha/year. This value is comparable to the government's objective in the nitrogen letter. This letter also shows that the government wants to achieve almost the entire nitrogen gain for nature (for as much as 90%) from agriculture. Roughly speaking, it can be concluded that the Cabinet is committed to halving (emissions from) agriculture between now and 2030. D66 MP Tjeerd de Groot, who has previously argued intently for a forced halving of the Dutch livestock, will therefore receive a just his way.

Not goals, but standards need to be screened
The study by Mesdag Dairy Fund raises serious questions about the feasibility of nitrogen standards for nature reserves. Calculations show that if agriculture is completely abolished in 70% of the vulnerable nature areas, the standard will still not be met. If the whole of the Netherlands is turned into a reserve (no agriculture, industry, habitation and traffic), the nitrogen standard is still exceeded in 32% of the nature reserves. This is because the contribution from abroad and from the sea is already greater than the nature reserve can handle.

The cabinet writes in its letter that it wants to discuss the goals of Natura2000. However, it is not so much about the goals (which species do you want to protect), but about the reality of the nitrogen standards (expressed in critical deposition values). And about the implementation of the European Habitats Directive, which in the Netherlands has been unilaterally translated into nitrogen standards for the business community. The Hordijk Committee, which was instructed to test the nitrogen calculations, said it would not consider the critical deposition values. While these values ​​are the main reason for all nitrogen legislation.

Mopping forest plantations with subsidy tap open  
Finally, the minister wants to accelerate the acquisition of land for planting new forests to compensate for the felling of trees as a result of Natura 2000 management plans. The minister thus obscures the real reason for the felling of trees. The national government faces a significant task for sustainable energy in order to be able to comply with European agreements. In that context, very substantial SDE subsidies have been allocated to the combustion of biomass (read: forests), as a result of which the felling of forests brings more money into the drawers of site managers than the maintenance of forests.

Ghost Rotgers

Investigative journalist in the agricultural sector
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50 comments
fdf member 25 April 2020
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
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so just screwed up by the minister. ff use corona moment. it was a completely preconceived plan in which d66 was allowed to bring the message through Tjeerd to the Trojan peerd. completely directed to clear up agriculture in favor of housing and air traffic. (so not for nature, but that looks good with the voters). "accidentally" the corona crisis came through, breaking the farmers' resistance and paralyzing protests. thank you Carola, farmer's daughter, Christian and beyond.
fdf member 25 April 2020
The bill will come back one day.
ex lto member 25 April 2020
at LTO they are jubilant about the plan. what could be behind that. I predict; LTO will receive a lot of money from LNV for projects and research and Calon will become mayor or commissioner of the Queen somewhere
anton 25 April 2020
mayor of sexbierum at most
John 25 April 2020
Let's be realistic: there will be too much supply and too little demand in the coming years. So better to remediate than go bankrupt as a farmer!
2smart 25 April 2020
fdf member: congratulations

reality is king

let the wretch of The Hague get the rambam,
Anarchy is the truth: to rule is to foresee.
pete1 25 April 2020
Reducing livestock is good for all intelligent livestock farmers
pete1 25 April 2020
Provided completely voluntary!
Thon 25 April 2020
It is really a very big scandal as many forests are there. You become furious when you see it, instead of enjoying it.
Politics is doing a very dirty trick with this nitrogen and everything that is invented with it. They have to maintain things as they should. They don't make a single red cent! Sandy soils are naturally acidic.
For that you have to sow lime, then the pH goes up again. Then those separate plants grow again.
Sell ​​less nonsense and blame others.
Eric 25 April 2020
What I missed in the minister's letter are specific goals and/or interventions for industry and aviation.
aria 25 April 2020
Watched Jinek last night. Schouten sat there orating, everyone was nodding yes while I don't think anyone understood what it was about.
I find even more strange how clean the air is and the starry sky, and nobody asks the question in the media, on TV, and in the second room how that is suddenly possible.
ordinary farmer 25 April 2020
maoh zhedong
would have been proud
Ben 25 April 2020
Since the failure of MesdagFonds I no longer have faith in them.
Saying everything but accomplishing nothing.
Skirt 25 April 2020
Anyone who does not yet want to understand that politics has already made their choice lives in a completely different world.
Janus van de Lange Dirk. 25 April 2020
that's how it is.
they just keep going.
they also have little resistance to expect from a totally divided sector.
so I'd say go with that green banana!
Leo's friend 25 April 2020
@ex lto member, don't spout nonsense, lto is not at all jubilant, they also think this plan is a great shame, and that has also been clearly communicated to the members and the minister.
Jan 25 April 2020
In the days of V-focus I always had a high regard for Geesje. Too bad she has committed herself to the false propaganda machine of the Mesdag Fund. After the enormous 25% nitrogen blunder, it will never make a dent in a pack of butter again.
Kevin 25 April 2020
I think this is just Jan's own calculation and it has nothing to do with the mesdag fund. Glad someone is calculating it because no one else does.
scour 26 April 2020
I don't understand why the farmers don't flatten this land, until this nitrogen nonsense is off the table. You let those lads over there in the hague make you beep, but flatten the land for a few weeks and they'll beep differently. don't think that the people are not behind you because they are. There is a great willingness to take action.
Everyone is sick of this government.
??? !!! 26 April 2020
Kolk wrote:
I don't understand why the farmers don't flatten this land, until this nitrogen nonsense is off the table. You let those lads over there in the hague make you beep, but flatten the land for a few weeks and they'll beep differently. don't think that the people are not behind you because they are. There is a great willingness to take action.
Everyone is sick of this government.
we have to work.
and we disagree.
and there are apparently still VVD/CDA/LTO members.
and we want to cross the highway, but we can't.
ideas generating pig farmer 26 April 2020
Flattening this country: As long as we can and there are no anti-regulations to block the resistance of our freedom.

Farmers not united, so what?
Internal considerations are always necessary.

Let boerenbusiness make a REFERENDA!

So shame on us that we let this be taken away from us in a democracy of Trojan peers and hope-educated duds.
pete1 26 April 2020
Disturb me at the headline of this article; does not knock from any side, he is not right, livestock will not be halved by far.
Wrong headlines of articles are dangerous because headlines usually stick while the article often says something else
janus of the long dirk 26 April 2020
that's right ???!!!
there is no more unity.
there will be no more.
cherish those images of the latest fdf action. you'll never see that again. or experience.
Hans Sud-Frylan 26 April 2020
5 Billion Euro is a lot of money but not enough to buy out only half of the Dutch farmer.
1 . The agricultural sector can say we are not going to deliver anything for 1 month and then see who gives in first. Also make sure that no food comes from abroad, so close borders. 2 . You can also say as a young farmer even though you took over the company not so long ago , but also young farmer families , I am going to hear this nonsense even more and I am annoyed by this government . Or
Offer the company and sell the company and leave the Netherlands and start a new company elsewhere in the world , more and more companies are coming and being for sale elsewhere in this world . Sold my dairy farm in 2013 where I milked 60 cows with an additional 30 ha of land and moved to Brittany and now have a farm there with 100 ha and 120 cows. Here I have found peace and space again and not that continuously controlled stress of being watched closely.
So my conclusion is throw everything flat for a month or take your chance and leave. Oh yes, when I left the Netherlands I was 50 years old.
Frans 26 April 2020
All a lot of tough talk in the comments about what 'we' should do, but hide behind Mommy's apron ourselves. RIVM now stands on a towering pedestal among the population, Mesdag Fund is crawling through the mud somewhere after the enormous decline in Nieuwspoort. Farming earns quite well, see the sky-high land prices that we readily drop. That is the farmer's welfare indicator for The Hague. And then there are also various arrangements for those who, as a farmer, have less qualities in house and who also complain the loudest. As farmers, we are really no more or less than citizens.
Skirt 26 April 2020
Indian story, first negotiate and think you get something, rebel and think you achieve something, eventually lose most of the land and be happy with a reservation in a remote corner. The agricultural Netherlands will fare in roughly the same way.
sefO 26 April 2020
Legally challenge the entire proposal, if we lose this, then it is counting knots, make your choice, do you want to, let yourself be milked even further or give the pipe to Maarten
Our cooperatives must also join forces and ask themselves whether it is still responsible to continue doing business in the food industry in the Netherlands.
The Netherlands where the production of food is systematically associated with the destruction of just about everything, environment, air, water, scary diseases, etc.
A government that does everything it can to discredit agriculture on all fronts and has an awful lot of money to spare.
A government that has almost unlimited money to hand over the most intelligent agriculture in the world for a created nitrogen crisis
Jeroen Drenth 26 April 2020
The nitrogen law is the death penalty for the livestock farmers, limitation on nitrogen means no grass, so no milk, that's it!!!!
Skirt 26 April 2020
The entire nitrogen crisis does not suddenly appear out of the blue, but fits exactly into the model to (legitimately) decimate agriculture. What the political agenda is, whether European or Dutch, will never be exactly clear, but assume that an exchange of NL as an agricultural exporter might come in handy to gain something in Europe on other fronts. There are plenty of countries that have an interest in reduced production in NL.
A. van der Peijl 26 April 2020
As a consumer I often know too little about what is really going on.
Again I read division here.
But, I support the farmers.
Please involve the population much more. Short and powerful information that is understood. And indeed, make sure the shops are empty, if you can.
Give the people addresses where they can buy from the farmer.
In the past, a car came through the street with stuff or a cargo bike.
could that be possible now?
Martin 27 April 2020
Groenvvd 10 more seats ///// [GroenLinks]/////
Frits 27 April 2020
rather let them invest that 5 billion in drought prevention measures. Then we see something back of the amount. Doesn't seem like a bad plan to me with the last few years in mind.
Fortissimo 27 April 2020
Planet of the Humans created by Michael Moore. Everyone is required to watch. Then you see how the so-called green liberators work and Al Gore and his cronies have taken over the entire green lobby with their dollars. That's what destroys us in our country. You may be right, or for the most part, but when powerful people make money from it, other powers and forces start to work. Then it becomes a hopeless mission. For example, just look at Trump. He is spouting complete nonsense. Yet there are millions of people who follow him blindly into the polls. Money makes the world go round.
dirk 27 April 2020
Good documentary Fortissimo@! The far left of the Netherlands does not know what is happening to her now that they see how they have always been tricked. The left has hobbled like a puppet behind big business without even realizing it.
Dirk 27 April 2020
Now the government has to pay for everything: water when it is a bit dry. Why not invest yourself a ditch, basin. You only need 200 m3 per ha. A communist mentality: taking everything from someone else and not wanting to do anything yourself. This is the end
Peter 28 April 2020
@dirk chatter you proclaim!
I have my own ditch, but in drought, the government forbids me to get water from it, otherwise fine!
Student 28 April 2020
The problem of the agricultural Netherlands becomes painfully clear here. On average, there is no vision, no facts and no ear for the citizen. In one of the comments under this article, a citizen (A. van der Peijl) asks a question. It's just completely ignored.

If enough citizens want something in a democracy, it is generally arranged quite nicely. Perhaps the agricultural sector should look for it there. With enough votes, it is possible to control both the desired size of the sector and the prices that are paid.
peer 28 April 2020
student wrote:
The problem of the agricultural Netherlands becomes painfully clear here. On average, there is no vision, no facts and no ear for the citizen. In one of the comments under this article, a citizen (A. van der Peijl) asks a question. It's just completely ignored.

If enough citizens want something in a democracy, it is generally arranged quite nicely. Perhaps the agricultural sector should look for it there. With enough votes, it is possible to control both the desired size of the sector and the prices that are paid.
it is not the consumer who determines what is eaten that does ah lidl and whether jumbo does determine what you eat and the farmer has to swallow it and if it becomes expensive then the group will get it from another country where the standard is slightly different your lower light
tonnie 28 April 2020
Planting then the cows in nature will have to go out anyway
they eat the young crop and stand with their ass on it sanding away planting costs hands full of money planting
John Lapwing 28 April 2020
Farmers all have to arrange the sales themselves must grow slowly to keep sales in their own hands as a fruit grower I have purchased a vending machine to buy my apples and pears with the safe residue standards by the consumer in the apple season that I have apples and pears to sell without global gab and planetproof
Mesdag Fund 28 April 2020
Mesdag Fund is not reliable. Have a nice chat.
Drikus 28 April 2020
It 's about the big money . You can notice that in everything. One cuts to the other in health care . On the work floor people were cleared away, the others had to do this work in the same time or less attention to the patient. Cut in resources etc. The managers had to cut costs and start laughing with bonus themselves. Now see what happens and the consequences could get much worse. Agriculture and animal husbandry are in the same boat . They get in the way of others and are the easiest and probably cheapest to sacrifice. We already see what it means in the manufacturing industry which means to be dependent on so-called cheap production land. The consequences of the next crisis may be predictable . We talk of emancipation man,woman ,elderly ,younger ,race ,disposition ,occupation,faith etc. But now in solving crisis . Are we going in the direction of professions important or less important ? Age is already mentioned as a criterion whether or not maximum care is taken in the event of overcrowding, etc. Who should or should not be allowed to use public transport Farmer is probably not important, just like the small self-employed person. But nursing staff squeezed for years and now indispensable . What about that when everything is over . I think old footing again . Continue to squeeze. And that's how the farmer is squeezed out when there was too short, everything was good and now there is enough, it stinks and pollutes, etc. But the big companies are now getting away with a lot of money and continue happily after the crisis and the clean the air that is there now will soon be just as dirty as before. And the managers can take a big tip home again .
common sense 28 April 2020
Planet of the Human: Good tip Fortissimo, thanks!

VVD is the most left-wing party ever, insane!!!
Derrick 28 April 2020
@kjol, you're trying to talk straight. Ammonia is really the farmer's problem; for more than 2/3 share. For years it has been shelved due to fraud and looking away. There is simply too much protein in the animal feed, which is very unfriendly to animals. Hey, you don't eat 15 eggs a day either. For the wrong animal feed, too much is paid, for decades. Be a little more picky
Ps 29 April 2020
The government works with multiple agendas and manages and feeds the media, don't let it get to the point where these plans are implemented without consultation and consent from the primary agricultural sector
Brainwashing reigns 29 April 2020
How do billiardaires get a population crazy to burn their (American) forests for their thousands of bioplants?

brainwashing: renewable energy
(left and right are behind it, how retarded can you be)

Our tax money highly educated miscalculation:
1 100 year old tree burned in seconds.

BRAINWASHING, THE PRINCIPLE ON WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT RUNS
Unconsciously let the population lie in wait for norms and lies, come up with indisputable norms and principles.
THIS IS NOTHING LIKE INFINITE GENOCIDE!

https://youtu.be/V3IlnuMG39U
John Lapwing 30 April 2020
It is very easy in this file, we are obliged with the entire sector, all noses have to go in the same direction. No kilos of nitrogen to sell outside the sector, but the big question is what room do you get from the governments to continue working with pleasure in these beautiful sectors and content eg minimum for milk 0.40 potatoes 0.25 per kg elstar apples 0.75 conference pear 0.60 provided yields per ha remain the same
shoemakers 1 30 April 2020
Jan, in principle you are right, but a stopper, where the rights should come from, will simply think, I no longer belong to the sector, or are we going to declare this generally binding, I have often had to go along with this statement do too often
Mike Forehand 30 April 2020
We only need farm craftsmanship :)
No halving of the dairy herd, but of the nitrogen input. Back to basic.
Derrick 30 April 2020
Totally agree Mike, then we will also get a grip on the animal feed industry, which has hunted our farmers and pushed us into trouble. Let those white coats and collars come up with solutions. Minimum prices for agricultural products a great idea, but with quotas in the EU
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