Anger at the end of the POR scheme

Prices of pig rights are steadily rising

9 February 2017 - Redactie Boerenbusiness - 29 comments

Prices of pig rights are steadily rising. In a week's time, several euros could be added to the price. It fuels anger at the abolition of the POR scheme. 

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and more for rights

In a week's time, the price of pig rights has risen at least fifteen euros to 70 euros and more in the East and South areas. There is plenty of speculation. This means that amounts of 100 euros and more are even mentioned. It is therefore not surprising that the State Secretary has incurred the anger of pig and poultry farmers by abolishing the POR scheme.  

If the Fertilizers Act exemption from production rights has expired in 2018, there will be no other option than to change animal numbers and/or animal categories or to invest in much more expensive rights, concludes DLV Advice.

But it is not yet 2018. In a favorable scenario, a new cabinet can create preconditions that reduce the cost price of allowances and fertilizer disposal. Not only the costs of rights are putting pressure on the profit margin, but also the costs of disposal of manure. The costs for fertilizer disposal continue to rise. If the derogation for dairy farming lapses, the price of manure sales could increase further by 5 to 10 euros per cubic meter, the LEI has calculated.

Reduce the cost of rights and fertilizer sales 

There is still a chance that the derogation for fertilizer application standards will disappear. The phosphate reduction plan for dairy farming has indeed been laid down in ministerial terms and the first round of remediation of the so-called LU livestock density scheme is in sight. The question is whether milk production will actually decrease and if so, by how much?

There is also a chance that livestock farmers who have invested a lot in barn space will take FrieslandCampina's fines for granted. The European Union only grants a derogation if the Netherlands has convinced Brussels policymakers that phosphate production does not exceed the ceiling. A voluntary phosphate reduction scheme is currently being prepared for pig farming.

In the meantime, the pig sector and the animal feed industry are developing a private incentive scheme to be on the safe side, in which a participating pig farmer receives a premium for every kilogram of phosphate reduction. The additional costs of the more expensive low-phosphorus may be reimbursed. Exactly what that arrangement will look like is currently under discussion.

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curly tail 9 February 2017
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So SGP also falls off. Who should we vote for now?
Dirk 9 February 2017
Very annoying for those who have invested in manure processing, but a nice lesson for the POV and LTO from van Dam that pigs and chicken rights remain the basis for the size of the sectors.
Dirk 9 February 2017
POV and LTO refuse to solve the problems in the dairy sector with exchangeable pig rights where both dairy cattle and pigs would make a big profit and now the pig sector can still work to secure derogation only now we can do it for nothing, incredible missed opportunity in my opinion.
of platings 9 February 2017
That's how it is Dirk, and nothing else.
boer 9 February 2017
They only need 11 months, right?
SGP 10 February 2017
The SGP wants to maintain the partitions between sectors. The SGP does not want a scheme that all pig and poultry farmers can subscribe to! We are talking about a temporary arrangement for companies that want to stop, but are unable to do so now. Then no (major) upward price pressure.
pig farmer 10 February 2017
If you set the levels in reasonableness relative to each other, then you arrive at rounded off 10 pig rights (approximately 4.5 kg P) to 1 "cow rights (more than 41 kg P)
From prices of 4000 to 5000 euros for 1 dairy cow right at the moment, and pig rights a lot under 100 euros, these prices could grow towards each other.
Pig rights may be 200-300 euros, and dairy cow rights then 2000-3000 euros.
I have already asked politicians several times, the SP SGP and CDA are in fact in favor of it, and the SP also introduced it in the spring.
The VVD leaves it to the various parties themselves, if they want it together, it's okay with them too.
In principle, if nature and the environment get better and it doesn't get worse, it is actually not such a problem for most political parties.
That would be a godsend for both sectors, if this had been nominated earlier, the POR would probably exist at the moment.
But the NVV/LTO did not dare to take this responsibility, so they can be angry, but it has partly caused the abolition of the POR.
of platings 10 February 2017
That's how pig farming is, and nothing else.
john 10 February 2017
Extend POR until 2020. Then let these companies take over the rights of the companies from the stopper arrangement. Then everyone is happy.
pig farmer 10 February 2017
They should never have let dairy farming go free. Just stay within the ceiling per sector, then there is nothing to worry about. So leave bulkheads in between! A pig farmer who wants to continue with his business has no interest in higher prices for VE. Certainly not when this is due to buying up by other sectors or worse, handing in for nothing! High prices for VE are only healthy if this is due to a structurally good return in the own sector! Now the dairy sector has expanded and the other sectors can give in!
pig farmer 11 February 2017
That is a one-sided thought. Pig farmer only with the argument how you want to benefit yourself instead of ensuring that there is a good remediation / solution for the stopping pig farmers and continuing dairy farmers so that both are helped, and in fact one should actually know what to do with it. want their own rights and not let others depend on what to do with them.
That is why the NVV has choked by not thinking along, and has now lost the POR.
Dirk 11 February 2017
Pig rights are a wonderful instrument to solve many problems in different sectors, I have also argued this to the department chair to the point of annoyance...... but no response whatsoever.

thinking about the cost price and constantly wanting the opportunity to grow as a sector is a dead end ... we lose all support with society.

the "vital pig farm" plan is far too cumbersome to become powerful.

I think we should think pragmatically and trade if this is possible with the other sectors .
Politics is far too capricious to make wonderful policy plans and we just let the opportunities pass by.... and then they call us entrepreneurs????
john 11 February 2017
I personally think that the immediate termination of the stopper arrangement is more effective than not extending the POR.
koentje 11 February 2017
Also 20% of my rights on this since we have star pigs.
I would like to sell them to a cattle farmer for a good price.
But our articulate caterpillars never enough will stop it again.
pig farmer 11 February 2017
Dirk thinks that the NVV is no longer the organization of earlier times but is trying to profile itself together as an organization that is more like the old LTO of too much poldering to show that it is no longer as "populist" as it used to be , when it was made much clearer that it was there for the "ordinary" pig farmer, and was not so busy with all the so-called committees, which only say are busy all the time meeting about objectives, elaboration of different plans, but not to concrete and practical ideas come as you eg Dirk and I mean.
Use common sense, but no complicated texts with which you do not achieve anything or are not taken seriously by politicians.
Perhaps because of the POR abolition they now realize that by keeping the leg rigid they certainly achieve nothing.
french heeswijk dinther 11 February 2017
when the merger between the zlto and nvv is ready they will listen to the lto again it will be 1 meeting club
simple farmer 12 February 2017
It is indeed a real pity that no exchange of pig rights (eg each farm 10% max) has gone into phosphate rights for dairy cattle.
Then there is no need for a generic discount at all and those new cow sheds can simply remain full.
There are plenty of pig farmers who would like to sell pig rights for a good price. The strange thing is that there are no convincing counter-arguments at all, but no action is taken at all.
It can be that simple.
pig farmer 12 February 2017
Perhaps immediately after the elections, agreements can be made with the new cabinet to maintain the POR as well as against a construction of exchanging pig rights to phosphate rights that can have the same effect or even more to stay under the P ceiling, but can also remain below with other levels by means of a limited reduction of duties if necessary.
That also seems better for the banks, now they have 2 problems, namely financing of 5000 euros for a cow right is difficult, on the other hand, the pig farmer finds it difficult to remediate at the moment, then one sector remediates the other,
with a financial benefit for each.
It does not cost the government anything, dairy farmers lose less, and stopping pig farmers in turn will be more than it is now, although supply and demand also play a role of course.
Easy and simple to speak with simple farmer.
Dirk 12 February 2017
You know what's strange.......have presented this to the management of the feed supplier, manure trade, fellow pig farmers...they all think the exchange is a good instrument, except the directors of our organizations...who don't want to know anything .
But they are now coming up with the grandiose idea of ​​voluntarily reducing a million kilos.

I don't know about you, but I do demand an explanation of this inimitable strategy.
LTO/POV are pushing hard for the abolition of rights, are we going to accept this or are we done with it? I do!!
pig farmer 12 February 2017
all tricks to not have to exchange while it is so easy. but the directors often have other (own) interests than their members.
too much distance between directors and their members, while they still have to be there for the members.
but okay maybe they will wake up after all and take practical decisions in the interest of all members the progressive and remediating farmer
of platings 12 February 2017
Such is the simple peasant, and no different.
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burke Brabant 13 February 2017
I also think it's a missed opportunity, Jhon van Paassen's idea wasn't that bad. a better variant would be to make 10% exchangeable rights for each owner of pig/poultry rights, then everyone can determine for themselves whether that part is sold to a cattle farmer, the price is then higher than the regular rights. he can then buy the part that he sells from a stopping farmer, depending on what is needed, they will also be a bit more expensive than now. the cattle farmer is satisfied, the pig farmer who sells to the cattle farmer is satisfied, and the quitting entrepreneur is satisfied. what else do you want
Dirk 13 February 2017
John van Paassen's idea is also what we are talking about and it would be good if the administrators who read this would think carefully about what the right way is to arrive at a practical solution for both the remediation in the pig sector and the dairy sector.
Better half turned than completely erred.
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farmer 13 February 2017
Has anyone thought that cows produce much more nitrogen than pigs per kg phosphate
curly tail 13 February 2017
John I wish drivers could look so sober too. In 2020 many pig farmers will stop. Eliminating POR will be less difficult at that time. If there is still a need to switch, that's the time. Until then, the cow farmers can solve "their" problem themselves for a while. Manure processing is probably much better on the way. According to the experts, it also seems to be the case that a lot of cow farmers are going to participate in the stopper arrangement.
of platings 13 February 2017
Boereke, fuck off with all that idiotic bullshit about those last kilos, ammonia, CO2, nitrate directive, air scrubbers, asbestos, etc, etc. Just raise the standards and the so-called manure surplus is gone, only those officials have no more food then , and now they are slowly but surely screwing us up, because the club is getting smaller every year and that is not a luxury.
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curly tail 14 February 2017
That's how plating is, and nothing else.
of platings 14 February 2017
Well, don't break my mouth, I'm done with all that civil servant bullshit. Doesn't matter at all, see the recent reports about ammonia, and we obediently buy an air washer with borrowed money. Look at the sky, one plane emits more rubbish than 10.000 pigs, but you don't hear about that, because that doesn't suit those left-wing bastards, but they smoke all the farmers out. They are environmental fanatics, nothing more, nothing less. Can you also vote for Trump on March 15 in this pathetic left-wing country?
heart 15 February 2017
Dirk wrote:
POV and LTO refuse to solve the problems in the dairy sector with exchangeable pig rights where both dairy cattle and pigs would make a big profit and now the pig sector can still work to secure derogation only now we can do it for nothing, incredible missed opportunity in my opinion.

100% agree dude!!!!
seen 18 May 2017
Keeping Scots in between is especially interesting for the big pig barons, apparently they are in charge!!!
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