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1,5 million pig places will disappear

June 25, 2019 - Wouter Baan - 45 comments

There may be 1,5 million pig places disappearing in the Netherlands. The cabinet reports that it will allocate an extra €60 million to pig farmers who are stopping, and €70 million will also be made available for entrepreneurs who invest in low-emission stables.

Previously, the cabinet allocated €120 million for the so-called 'warm remediationof pig farming. This amount will now be increased by €60 million. The plans are in a document published Friday, June 28, which is already in the hands of the Algemeen Dagblad.

It is expected that the plans will ensure that approximately 10% of the pig herd will disappear, which amounts to 1,5 million pigs. For permanent pig farmers, €70 million will be made available for investments in, for example, low-emission stables.  

Greenhouse reduction
Various sources confirm to the newspaper that shrinking livestock is necessary to achieve the climate goals. In 2020, the Netherlands must emit 25% less greenhouse gases, compared to emissions in 1990. This was enforced by climate group Urgenda in 2015 in a lawsuit against the Dutch State.  

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Wouter Baan is editor-in-chief of Boerenbusiness. He also focuses on dairy, pig and meat markets. He also follows (business) developments within agribusiness and interviews CEOs and policymakers.

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45 comments
avenue June 25, 2019
This is in response to it Boerenbusiness article:
[url=http://www.boerenbusiness.nl/varkens/ artikel/10882999/1-5-million-varkensplaatsen- go-disappearance]1,5 million pig places are going to disappear[/url]
A good start....on the way to 100% self-sufficiency and therefore a better return for the pig farmer. Good news.
yep June 25, 2019
why buy pigs??? in the context of greenhouse gases you should buy cows and not pigs.
The real reason is much simpler they just want less pigs and it has nothing to do with the greenhouse gases.
The pig stables already have air scrubbers, etc., the cow stables are still at the beginning of emission reduction plus the methane emissions of the cows.
Shall we stick to the truth please.... journalists: please stay critical....
Bert June 25, 2019
Oh yes, I would say; let all pig farmers first sell their own manure for 75% on their own land.
As far as I'm concerned you have 10 years for that, if you can't do that then stop.
pig farmer June 25, 2019
Too little money I think to take it seriously
you must have at least € 200/300 as a purchase arrangement
can you renovate or convert a shed for other purposes, storage or the like?
Vogelaar plans to exchange rights with at least a 50% discount from pig rights so that a limited number of cows come back and net fewer emissions and therefore less manure is therefore more beneficial for those who stay
yep June 25, 2019
@Bert, why does the manure have to be on your own land, it is neatly processed and transported abroad, what's wrong with that? they do need organic matter and minerals there and they are willing to pay for it. The wheat, barley and maize also come here from France and Germany, so the minerals can also return, they call it recycling.
Roy June 25, 2019
Totally agree yep.
yep June 25, 2019
@Bert, why does the manure have to be on your own land, it is neatly processed and transported abroad, what's wrong with that? they do need organic matter and minerals there and they are willing to pay for it. The wheat, barley and maize also come here from France and Germany, so the minerals can also return, they call it recycling.
Bert June 25, 2019
The pig abroad is much cheaper, less transport and the manure problem may have been solved (less CO2).
Bert June 25, 2019
Even then the cycle is complete
Nelis June 25, 2019
What nonsense Bert. They call it free trade.
But as usual, the intensive sectors are allowed to solve it again for the holy cow.
And only if we have to get to 100 % supply level, we will not achieve that "net" with that 60 million.
Bertie June 25, 2019
Bert is a cow farmer, Bert does not wish another sector anything, Bert wants to be able to convert cheap pig rights into phosphate, Bert does not understand the difference between gas and mineral, bye Bert
Bert June 25, 2019
Pig farmer should not complain, they have been shouting for years that buying land is not profitable, that is no different for the dairy farmer, but it is part of it (sustainable, cycle and co2).
The one who doesn't have that in balance complains the loudest.
Bert June 25, 2019
Russia will take over production
yep June 25, 2019
@Bert, why does the manure have to be on your own land, it is neatly processed and transported abroad, what's wrong with that? they do need organic matter and minerals there and they are willing to pay for it. The wheat, barley and maize also come here from France and Germany, so the minerals can also return, they call it recycling.
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Ernie June 25, 2019
Bert wrote:
The pig abroad is much cheaper, less transport and the manure problem may have been solved (less CO2).
could you also do with cows
Bert June 25, 2019
Ernie could do that, but most of them can largely place the manure themselves, so the cycle is almost complete.
Many pig farms cannot say that.
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market June 25, 2019
bert most dairy farmers I know and from whom I expect that they will still be dairy farmers in 10 to 20 years' time can hardly dispose of the manure on their own land
Frans June 25, 2019
Not a bad idea to buy up until the self-sufficiency rate is minus 70%. Good for quitters and stayers. The periphery has long settled with our money far beyond national borders. Young farmers no longer feel like it and can easily earn a ton a year with their work ethic elsewhere. The swine fever outbreak in 1997/1998 cost two billion euros. A 70% buyout costs less.
Roy June 25, 2019
Ha Bert, if all cow farmers first return all the money from the payment entitlements and other subsidies received from the last 30 years, we will talk further
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roulade June 25, 2019
I don't think there's any meat left anywhere, right? so why do they have to leave here? If we just get a fair price, then we really want to keep pigs here with all the export disadvantages that we have. Because if we stop here, they will join abroad, and they really don't make the pig better than we do. There is a need for meat all over the world, but those shitty retailers just know how to play us well (including supermarkets) and that kills us. We are indeed a trading country, and the world is of course changing, but it doesn't have to be this way. If the meat was thrown away, ok, but it won't be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
avenue June 25, 2019
look!!!! Frans gets it...... but I notice that more and more pig farmers are starting to understand. A new path has to be taken... and that is certainly not the fatal vitalization plan of Rabobank, which pushes the sector even further into the abyss.
The advocates have let the farmer get out of hand in the last 20 years. and that has been fatal for many farmers. And now they are still not working on a good solution and the farmers will notice that because if a reasonable arrangement is made, more than half of the pig farmers will stop. There is no trust in politics and the advocates. Not now, and not for the future.
Joep June 25, 2019
Mass is checkout only applies to the periphery. There is little or no cash register for the farmer due to too much mass. This situation has arisen because farmers do not only allow themselves to be financed by banks but also by suppliers and buyers. In the past you had the pig cycle if the production volume was too high, the selling price fell below a certain point, whereby a number of farmers gave up. Because suppliers and customers now have a big finger in the pie, they determine when the plug is pulled. The tipping point is therefore now at a much higher production volume and therefore a lower selling price (in relation to the critical selling price) because the income/interest of the farmer no longer counts. They call it the pig cycle 2.0 now I believe.
avenue June 25, 2019
roulade....
Don't be so selfish.
Why do we have to produce 270%?
Give those other countries a little production that is not yet at 100%.
Let's keep it cozy.
Bert June 25, 2019
Let 1 thing be clear, I have nothing against intensive livestock farming.
When it comes down to it they are the most efficient companies!!!
But how is it possible that an intensive livestock farmer (goats, pigs, chickens, calves, ducks, etc.) can expand without soil, but with manure processing and dairy farming in a slightly different way.
I must say that they have arranged it well!!!
That's just the problem.
Karel June 25, 2019
Conclusion; intensive livestock farming has been getting away with it for too long
market June 25, 2019
Bert if a pig farmer wants to expand, he should just buy pig rights

a dairy farmer can also keep more cows if he buys cow rights (phosphate)
Bert June 25, 2019
Dairy farmers must have additional land to use them, a pig farmer should too
Not growing June 25, 2019
Well, we let ourselves be milked by supermarkets and compound feed suppliers, who are growing rapidly in capacity, the latter especially abroad.
They are aware that the growth is over here
Gert June 25, 2019
Agrifirm to China, De Heus to Africa, ForFarmers full of megalomania surpasses former dictators. Dutch farmers can be proud that they have financed all this and are left with the mess.
Not growing June 25, 2019
Gert, that was partly made possible by intensive livestock farming and sponsored by a few large banks and the government to keep the food package as cheap as possible
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info June 25, 2019
We are really annoying each other again. Shell also produces much more than what is used in Ned. Why are farmers not allowed to do that again, there is no reason to mention this, especially when we see what Shell blows into the air and every motorist who also participates in it, but you don't hear anyone about that, let's point out to that citizen a little more on their shortcomings.
aryan June 26, 2019
Once info all animal places that leave NL will be added somewhere else. But with less eye for animal welfare and sustainability, do we really think if we clean up 15% of animals here that we are going to save the world? Apparently the climate agreement stops at the border of the Netherlands, nice and hypocritical.
AJ June 26, 2019
Bert thinks soil and cycle are important, real cycle is no longer a purchase of power feed, he grows everything himself. So count out your winnings.
Frans June 26, 2019
There are rumors that the purchase will be rolled out nationally without odor criteria and with multiple rounds, money is not a problem and climate is the driving force. With an average of 1000 euros per sow place and 200 euros per fattening pig place, half-pig NL will participate. Demolish buildings by means of red for red and the proceeds for the animals. Can live 90% free, nothing wrong with that.
eric June 27, 2019
Is manure still seen as a problem?

Correct management with the right technological tools from Flottweg ensures that manure production will become a revenue model.
A pig farmer or cattle farmer can actually earn money from his manure.

All organic nitrogen and phosphate can enter the solid fraction in 1 process step with an exceptionally high dry matter percentage.
The liquid fraction is therefore virtually free of nitrogen and phosphate and also contains less than 2% solids.

The solid fraction thus has a higher valuable composition and can therefore yield (more) money. This increases the export possibilities.
Pellets are also made in Germany from this solid fraction for sale to consumers for garden and plant fertilization.

The liquid fraction can now also be spread over the land during the -normally not permitted- periods....large storage tanks are therefore no longer necessary.



farmer harms June 27, 2019
Well Eric, you can roll out your business model on my company. I don't have to make any money out of it.....it's all for you.
I have 20.000m3 per year; you can decide for yourself when you pick it up, as long as it goes away.

I'm afraid you won't respond, even if I'm willing to pay some more "fees".
Jan June 27, 2019
Eric could become a multimillionaire tomorrow. Unfortunately, Eric can also fantasize more easily than act.
Bertie June 28, 2019
Eric has a point here, the manure has already been cracked 20-25. In theory AND practice, the manure problem could already be solved by means of export. There are only a few points why this is not getting off the ground.
-Purchase of patents by multinationals. The installations end in the refrigerator
-Politics, the manure problem cannot be solved, otherwise we will keep too few people at work and livestock farmers will become 'too rich'
-Cumela has no interest in this being resolved, they prefer to see a nice contribution per ha by supplying manure, instead of custom made manure and paying for it.

Success in the Netherlands
eric June 28, 2019
Is manure still seen as a problem?

Correct management with the right technological tools from Flottweg ensures that manure production will become a revenue model.
A pig farmer or cattle farmer can actually earn money from his manure.

All organic nitrogen and phosphate can enter the solid fraction in 1 process step with an exceptionally high dry matter percentage.
The liquid fraction is therefore virtually free of nitrogen and phosphate and also contains less than 2% solids.

The solid fraction thus has a higher valuable composition and can therefore yield (more) money. This increases the export possibilities.
Pellets are also made in Germany from this solid fraction for sale to consumers for garden and plant fertilization.

The liquid fraction can now also be spread over the land during the -normally not permitted- periods....large storage tanks are therefore no longer necessary.



eric June 28, 2019
Something went wrong... now the message is double...

If there is interest, I would like to refer to the following article: https://pruefberichte.dlg.org/filestorage/6929.pdf
In it, the German research agency DLG describes the divorce results.
I am curious what you as experts in the field of manure separation think about this....

Eric
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burke Brabant June 28, 2019
day eric. I've been in the swine business for 30 years, and have seen many nice things come, and just as many go,
yet I contacted flottweg,
i actually can't believe that through divorce all n goes out of thin, p could still be, but hopefully we'll see soon
Gerard June 28, 2019
Hello boerke Brabant, where do you see that all the nitrogen goes out of the thin one? I don't read that anywhere.
Frans June 28, 2019
All processing techniques with more than two end products have proved unsuccessful. Thick mineral fraction and dischargeable water is the only good solution. Energy for drying must be subsidized by SDE, usually fermentation.
Jp lapwing June 28, 2019
Never register your company with our government, this is a Jewish tip, grab the calculator.
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burke Brabant June 29, 2019
Gerard, I heard that through contact with Flottweg.
hopefully they will soon run the machine test at our company,
then we'll see (or not of course)
if you look at the flottweg site you will see nice things,
they first make a plan, what the machine should be able to do, then you can rent it, if it does what has been agreed, you can proceed to purchase,
this seems quite interesting.
without wanting to advertise, it also seems like a company with a lot of knowledge about the purification of waste flows in different sectors
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